COVID and band members

WindowPaine

i doubt they'd play without one member. they've only done it once if i recall..2002 they played without Stone but i can't remember why. 

JimmyV

Cropduster-80 said:

elcazador83 said:

Dave Matthews last year played without his band for a few shows at Red Rocks. Did solo acoustic stuff. Had some other friends step in. I can see PJ pulling it off.

It was the gorge. A bit different as you already had people camping for 3 days. They really didn’t have a choice.

that said the shows were pretty cool and unique after losing their rhythm section 

They made the best of a tough situation. 

hihobibo

Would you be more disappointed if you traveled to a show (flights/hotel, etc) and they canceled, or if you showed up and instead they had someone like Duff McKagan and Jack White playing with them, and it was mainly a cover band show for 2.5 hours? I would prefer the show to go on if I already took the trip. Otherwise, I'll be selling the tickets for the makeup show and not have seen anything at all. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

RiotAct10

DM282158 said:

I know Josh plays some Gigaton parts, but maybe there’s another reason he’s touring/playing with them…..

Big money for a cancelled show. 

Josh was going to be do this on the original Gigaton tour, before Covid shut it down, so I don't think that has anything to do with him being a part of it. With that said, I honestly believe Josh could step in to any of the instrument roles, and they could put on a concert. I am not sure they would do that, but it seems to be they definitely could based on his playing and what has been said in interviews.

JimmyV

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

Cropduster-80

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

That was weird.

if Ed decided to read a book out loud for two hours in a small venue close to me I would probably go.  

Why this happened for the Earthling tour I can’t understand 

Tim Simmons

Agreed, can't understand why people would be wishy washy about attending an indoor concert immediately on the heels of another surge, of which several band members fell ill during.

Tim Simmons

This is a perfect thread to dovetail with the "play the hits" thread.

I know this doesn't need to be said, but the band is bigger than just the hardcores. People do show up for the hits. People won't care if a member has to miss a show that isn't ed. WE know its not the Eddie Vedder show, but to most people, he is the face of the band. I think we get lost in the minutiae of the band, its music and the details around all of that. Most people who go to see PJ don't care. 

Tim Simmons

Its gonna be OK if the band does have to perform without Matt, Mike Stone or Jeff. 

Its gonna be OK if you have to hear Even Flow again with only 24 other songs.

Spiritual_Chaos

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

I am certain it proved exactly what I meant. 

What has $25 tickets in Chicago for another band, to do with someone stepping in for a show last minute because a member got sick?

Or maybe I have missed them putting down the price to 25 bucks because the band didn't have guitarists who could make it through a full set.

Tim Simmons

I think the secondary market had seats as low as $25 on show day and people concluded its because its not a PJ show (which is true because a PJ show would likely have heavier demand - but I also think a confluence of factors led to lower demand for the Earthlings tour). But I also think it doesn't go the other way, If a member had to skip a leg for whatever reason, PJ shows will still be well attended.

JimmyV

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

I am certain it proved exactly what I meant. 

What has $25 tickets in Chicago for another band, to do with someone stepping in for a show last minute because a member got sick?

Or maybe I have missed them putting down the price to 25 bucks because the band didn't have guitarists who could make it through a full set.

You said, "Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting."
 
Tickets fell to $25 and were given away for free because there weren't enough people willing to pay to attend Eddie and the Earthlings. Sure, COVID was a factor, too, but far from the only one. 

Tim Simmons

But it was a very major one. 

RatherStarved

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

I am certain it proved exactly what I meant. 

What has $25 tickets in Chicago for another band, to do with someone stepping in for a show last minute because a member got sick?

Or maybe I have missed them putting down the price to 25 bucks because the band didn't have guitarists who could make it through a full set.

You said, "Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting."
 
Tickets fell to $25 and were given away for free because there weren't enough people willing to pay to attend Eddie and the Earthlings. Sure, COVID was a factor, too, but far from the only one. 

It was also on a weeknight in the middle of winter.  

JimmyV

RatherStarved said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

I am certain it proved exactly what I meant. 

What has $25 tickets in Chicago for another band, to do with someone stepping in for a show last minute because a member got sick?

Or maybe I have missed them putting down the price to 25 bucks because the band didn't have guitarists who could make it through a full set.

You said, "Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting."
 
Tickets fell to $25 and were given away for free because there weren't enough people willing to pay to attend Eddie and the Earthlings. Sure, COVID was a factor, too, but far from the only one. 

It was also on a weeknight in the middle of winter.  

In a tiny venue in one of America's largest cities. And the weather can't be blamed for what happened in LA. 

The point is that Ed with his sideband isn't the draw Ed with his main band is. A few shows here and there with a replacement guitarist are fine, but many of us won't be sticking around for a Chinese Democracy era of this band. 

Cropduster-80

JimmyV said:

RatherStarved said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JimmyV said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

igotid88 said:

edocon said:

You think they can replace Mike or Matt on short notice, huh? 

Josh could probably step in for Mike

No, he could not. 100% no.

There is no Pearl Jam without Mike McCready's guitar. 

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved this. I love the album, but it's not Pearl Jam.

Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting. 

If they had to go through with a show. 

Matt Camerons drumtech could step in. Like Peter Criss drumtech did for Criss in 97:

https://youtu.be/JWUP3qHSgnQ

But I can not see them doing anything but cancel.

The Earthling tour that many of us skipped, that had $25 tickets in Chicago and 100 giveaways in Los Angeles? I don't think Earthling proved what you think it proved. 

I am certain it proved exactly what I meant. 

What has $25 tickets in Chicago for another band, to do with someone stepping in for a show last minute because a member got sick?

Or maybe I have missed them putting down the price to 25 bucks because the band didn't have guitarists who could make it through a full set.

You said, "Pretty sure "Earthling" proved that a concert can be had and played through without Mike McCready. 98% of the crowd wouldn't know the difference when exiting."
 
Tickets fell to $25 and were given away for free because there weren't enough people willing to pay to attend Eddie and the Earthlings. Sure, COVID was a factor, too, but far from the only one. 

It was also on a weeknight in the middle of winter.  

In a tiny venue in one of America's largest cities. And the weather can't be blamed for what happened in LA. 

The point is that Ed with his sideband isn't the draw Ed with his main band is. A few shows here and there with a replacement guitarist are fine, but many of us won't be sticking around for a Chinese Democracy era of this band. 

Big city may have been a problem. 

Same sized venue in Missoula for example sells out in two seconds.  Not sure what that says except the major markets are spoiled. Any 2nd tier city would fill those seats and be happy to have the chance to go

Maybe that can’t compete will all the stuff going on in LA so just don’t go there 

PJammer4life

If Stone fell Ill they could just go through Eddie written songs and have Josh do the second guitar parts. 

*****Stone is badass and missing him for a show would be a great loss for the fans****
but….they could pivot to Ed driven songs

Sometimes
Can’t Keep
Unthought Known
Elderly Woman
I Am Mine
Rearviewmirror
Porch
immortality
Corduroy
Not For You
Gone
Betterman
Lukin
Habit
Wishlist
Off He Goes

Just Breathe
Love Boat Captain
I Got Shit
Insignificance
Grievance
Yellow Ledbedder(Mike’s baby)

Hawk123

Maybe we have an answer to this question 

igotid88

Josh in for Matt