The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,354
    How many were sheds??
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,184
    CO278952 said:
    How many were sheds??
    Very few. And aside from the ballparks, not too many were even in summer. 
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  • GhostChileGhostChile Posts: 1,140
    28 shows between 2010 - 2022
    2 albums

    Can you make the same excercise for 1991-2001?
    6 albums
    ? shows
    Mexico City 17/7/2003 Mexico City 18/7/2003 Mexico City 19/7/2003 Santiago Chile 22/11/2005 Santiago Chile 23/11/2005 Buenos Aires Argentina 13/11/2011 Santiago Chile 16/11/2011 Lima Perú 18/11/2011 Sao Paulo Brasil 31/3/2013 Buenos Aires Argentina 03/4/2013 Santiago Chile 06/5/2013 Santiago Chile 4/11/2015 Buenos Aires Argentina 7/11/2015 Porto Alegre Brasil 11/11/2015 Sao Paulo Brasil 14/11/2015 Brasilia Brasil 17/11/2015 Belo Horizonte Brasil 20/11/2015 Rio de Janeiro Brasil 22/11/2015 Bogota Colombia 25/11/2015 Mexico City 28/11/2015 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 8/4/2016 Miami, FL 9/4/2016 Tampa, FL 11/4/2016 Santiago Chile 13/3/2018 Santiago Chile 16/3/2018 Rome Italy 26/6/2018 Prague Czech Republic 1/7/2018 Krakow Poland 3/7/2018 Berlin Germany 5/7/2018 Barcelona Spain 10/7/2018 Dana Point, CA 1/10/2021 Dana Point, CA 2/10/2021 Seattle, WA 28/05/2024 Seattle, WA 30/05/2024
  • vercemanverceman Posts: 687
    Doug87 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.

    interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.  

    In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.

    If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
    this is fascinating! Source?
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited April 2023
    verceman said:
    Doug87 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.

    interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.  

    In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.

    If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
    this is fascinating! Source?
    http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2022/11/neil-young-on-how-to-do-self-sustaining.html?m=1



    Then look at Micah’s calendar.  

    Plays with Willie Nelson and Family Band and his own project Particle Kid.
  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 852
    September tour again? Can’t they pick another month for once?
    All the arenas in the US and Canada have lots of empty dates before basketball and hockey start up again. I assume some of the band members have kids that go back to school and they don't mind hitting the road. 
  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 746
    dtr0624 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    😂😂😂 all the hype for 8 shows! This band needs to stop taking themselves so seriously, this is not 1994 
    9 shows!  Get it right.  ;)
    I stand corrected! Yeah 9 shows that makes it better 😂😂
    9 shows.....WTF

    Can somebody here do me a favor? Can somebody here be so kind to look up just how many shows Pearl Jam has played in the USA since 2010? Not including Bridge shows, or Vedder solo. How many full blown Pearl Jam shows has there been IN THE USA since 2010? USA only!  Including 2010. 
    If anyone can, much appreciated. 
    If not? Then just tell me to look it up myself! hahaha



    2010 - 16
    2011 - 2
    2012 - 4
    2013 - 24
    2014 - 14
    2015 - 1
    2016 - 20
    2017 - 0
    2018 - 7
    2019 - 0
    2020 - 0
    2021 - 4
    2022 - 15
    TOTAL - 107 with an average of 8.9 over the 12 year span
    Wow so this weird little 5 city sliver of a tour is, for them, literally “above average”.
    this may be the saddest post in the whole thread.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,438
    Plenty of people predicted no shows this year. This includes some of the people complaining how man shows they are now playing. Some of the people complaining about the tour length have also said they are ok with never seeing a Pearl Jam show ever again. So odd. 
  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 746
    PJNB said:
    Plenty of people predicted no shows this year. This includes some of the people complaining how man shows they are now playing. Some of the people complaining about the tour length have also said they are ok with never seeing a Pearl Jam show ever again. So odd. 
    I had no guesses what their plans were but I’m hopeful every year.
    yeah, I wish they were playing several more, if the rumored list is really all I will conclusively not get to see them this year. And it was just mathematically proven that this isn’t new. 
    I am 1000% NOT ok with never seeing them again.
    (didn’t think you were talking to me but why not answer anyway 😉)
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,148
    PJNB said:
    Plenty of people predicted no shows this year. This includes some of the people complaining how man shows they are now playing. Some of the people complaining about the tour length have also said they are ok with never seeing a Pearl Jam show ever again. So odd. 
    Yup. 
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,779
    PJNB said:
    Plenty of people predicted no shows this year. This includes some of the people complaining how man shows they are now playing. Some of the people complaining about the tour length have also said they are ok with never seeing a Pearl Jam show ever again. So odd. 
    Yeah...people on message boards say a lot of stuff....
  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,403
    PJNB said:
    Plenty of people predicted no shows this year. This includes some of the people complaining how man shows they are now playing. Some of the people complaining about the tour length have also said they are ok with never seeing a Pearl Jam show ever again. So odd. 
    I'll be honest, back in January, I didn't think we were getting any shows at all this year. So, I'm quite happy with what we are getting.
  • vercemanverceman Posts: 687
    Doug87 said:
    verceman said:
    Doug87 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.

    interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.  

    In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.

    If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
    this is fascinating! Source?
    http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2022/11/neil-young-on-how-to-do-self-sustaining.html?m=1



    Then look at Micah’s calendar.  

    Plays with Willie Nelson and Family Band and his own project Particle Kid.
    I like this rumor a lot. Would help explain a lot of things about this otherwise pretty random short jaunt through the Midwest.
  • JD87070JD87070 Grand Blanc, MI Posts: 257
    Shoot, until the teaser video 4/1 i wasn’t expecting any shows this year, much less in the midwest where I can actually go! So the last couple weeks has been a pleasant surprise.
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    verceman said:
    Doug87 said:
    verceman said:
    Doug87 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.

    interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.  

    In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.

    If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
    this is fascinating! Source?
    http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2022/11/neil-young-on-how-to-do-self-sustaining.html?m=1



    Then look at Micah’s calendar.  

    Plays with Willie Nelson and Family Band and his own project Particle Kid.
    I like this rumor a lot. Would help explain a lot of things about this otherwise pretty random short jaunt through the Midwest.
    Indeed it would.

    along with why it’s almost entirely 2 night stands. 

    So we’ll see……..
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,892
    edited April 2023
    Steady wins the race. Take what you can get, they’ve never broken up or tried to sell themselves as Pearl Jam being one or 2/5ths of the original lineup like a bunch of other bands.

    it’s not uncommon to do a few shows a year when there is no new record

    We don’t know what we don’t know

    they are human beings… maybe just maybe one or more members can’t for whatever reason tour for months on end ie medical/ family situation etc 

    oh yea… they are getting older, and for guys 60 & over or approaching it… not to shabby

    Plenty of people I know in their 40s pull a muscle going from the couch to the toilet 🤣

    rock & roll truly a fantasy in somes head… age/health doesn’t factor in


    Post edited by CROJAM95 on
  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,403
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,091
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
    Definitely more. Would take it from “maybe I’ll see if any buddies want to take a trip for one of these shows, if not NBD” to “I’m definitely going to make one of these work.”
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,528
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
    I m not a Neil fan at all.  I definitely wouldn’t travel to see a co headliner show.  
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  • dtr0624dtr0624 south jersey Posts: 611
    tdawe said:
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
    Definitely more. Would take it from “maybe I’ll see if any buddies want to take a trip for one of these shows, if not NBD” to “I’m definitely going to make one of these work.”
    i actually think its the complete opposite. they have already cut down on the length of shows as it is. a co headliner tour basically becomes festival sets each night. 20 songs, few deep track, few new, mostly hits and neil, atleast in my opinion, doesnt do it for me. especially if pj is the opening act. i would even say as much as that the band could never do rockin as a closer again and id be fine lol
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  • RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,643
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
    It may not be a coheadliner tour.. they may just be playing some dates with Neil then completing the tour with their own shows. Like they did with Petty in 2006. There’s no way these are all the dates they’re playing in 2024. It doesn’t make much sense. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,659
    edited April 2023
    CROJAM95 said:
    Steady wins the race. Take what you can get, they’ve never broken up or tried to sell themselves as Pearl Jam being one or 2/5ths of the original lineup like a bunch of other bands.

    it’s not uncommon to do a few shows a year when there is no new record

    We don’t know what we don’t know

    they are human beings… maybe just maybe one or more members can’t for whatever reason tour for months on end ie medical/ family situation etc 

    oh yea… they are getting older, and for guys 60 & over or approaching it… not to shabby

    Plenty of people I know in their 40s pull a muscle going from the couch to the toilet 🤣

    rock & roll truly a fantasy in somes head… age/health doesn’t factor in



    They could have come out of the two year Covid break and do more touring to promote the new songs but chose not to. Partially because we begged for those rare songs with fewer tunes in the set.

    At this point I’d rather the two members who dislike touring alternate taking tour legs off and let someone like Josh with connection to PJ fill in, if that could double the number of shows  (as much as I’d miss the one original member).

    For some of us that live in a huge market with 5% ticket odds that draw in out of towners like no other location, and who don’t want to jump on a plane or deal with festival brutalities, seeing a PJ show is next to impossible, let alone without spending 15 hours driving.


    edit, I’m in the middle of the PJ age group and just sprained my knee, which is challenging so I get it. But most believe three members still like to tour!
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,472
    CROJAM95 said:
    Steady wins the race. Take what you can get, they’ve never broken up or tried to sell themselves as Pearl Jam being one or 2/5ths of the original lineup like a bunch of other bands.

    it’s not uncommon to do a few shows a year when there is no new record

    We don’t know what we don’t know

    they are human beings… maybe just maybe one or more members can’t for whatever reason tour for months on end ie medical/ family situation etc 

    oh yea… they are getting older, and for guys 60 & over or approaching it… not to shabby

    Plenty of people I know in their 40s pull a muscle going from the couch to the toilet 🤣

    rock & roll truly a fantasy in somes head… age/health doesn’t factor in



    BOOOOOOO

    we pay annual dues so we can come here & make cynical & negative assumptions about this band. Get out of here with your logic & practical takes. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,950
    CROJAM95 said:
    Steady wins the race. Take what you can get, they’ve never broken up or tried to sell themselves as Pearl Jam being one or 2/5ths of the original lineup like a bunch of other bands.

    it’s not uncommon to do a few shows a year when there is no new record

    We don’t know what we don’t know

    they are human beings… maybe just maybe one or more members can’t for whatever reason tour for months on end ie medical/ family situation etc 

    oh yea… they are getting older, and for guys 60 & over or approaching it… not to shabby

    Plenty of people I know in their 40s pull a muscle going from the couch to the toilet 🤣

    rock & roll truly a fantasy in somes head… age/health doesn’t factor in



    They could have come out of the two year Covid break and do more touring to promote the new songs but chose not to. Partially because we begged for those rare songs with fewer tunes in the set.

    At this point I’d rather the two members who dislike touring alternate taking tour legs off and let someone like Josh with connection to PJ fill in, if that could double the number of shows  (as much as I’d miss the one original member).

    For some of us that live in a huge market with 5% ticket odds that draw in out of towners like no other location, and who don’t want to jump on a plane or deal with festival brutalities, seeing a PJ show is next to impossible, let alone without spending 15 hours driving.
    Texas is going to get four shows (which probably doubles the shows in Texas since 2003) and of course 4 shows is about 40% of the tour and Texans will have to battle with everyone in the Southwest for tickets.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,472
    I like the Neil rumor. Is there any truth to it? I have no idea, but I think it would be cool, and I would try to get to at least one show. 

    Like someone else mentioned about the two night stints: could one night be a full album, or an unplugged set, or something else? I would love that too. I would love some outside the box thinking to change it up. 11 out of the last 12 shows I’ve seen them play were “an evening with” so I can’t say I’m overly thrilled at seeing a relatively scaled down show. I boldfaced relatively as I know 24 songs is still more than most artists perform at any given show. (Spare me the Bruce / McCartney comments, please). 

    I get the age thing, and / or longevity factor that’s possibly behind the shorter set lists, and for that reason I don’t begrudge them doing it. If that means they prolong their careers, then it’s a good move. 

    So, yeah… I would love seeing something different like a co-headlining tour w/ Neil. 
  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,091
    dtr0624 said:
    tdawe said:
    So, if this theory does hold, and it is a co-headliner tour, would that make people more or less excited about going? I mean, much respect to Neil. But I know a lot of ppl who are just in it for Pearl Jam and want to get as much of them as they can.
    Definitely more. Would take it from “maybe I’ll see if any buddies want to take a trip for one of these shows, if not NBD” to “I’m definitely going to make one of these work.”
    i actually think its the complete opposite. they have already cut down on the length of shows as it is. a co headliner tour basically becomes festival sets each night. 20 songs, few deep track, few new, mostly hits and neil, atleast in my opinion, doesnt do it for me. especially if pj is the opening act. i would even say as much as that the band could never do rockin as a closer again and id be fine lol
    I’ve seen Pearl Jam before and I’ll see them again. As much as I love a nice long Pearl Jam show I’d definitely be excited for something different. Also Neil Young is awesome. 
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  • 3days3days Posts: 1,158
    CROJAM95 said:
    Steady wins the race. Take what you can get, they’ve never broken up or tried to sell themselves as Pearl Jam being one or 2/5ths of the original lineup like a bunch of other bands.

    it’s not uncommon to do a few shows a year when there is no new record

    We don’t know what we don’t know

    they are human beings… maybe just maybe one or more members can’t for whatever reason tour for months on end ie medical/ family situation etc 

    oh yea… they are getting older, and for guys 60 & over or approaching it… not to shabby

    Plenty of people I know in their 40s pull a muscle going from the couch to the toilet 🤣

    rock & roll truly a fantasy in somes head… age/health doesn’t factor in


    This. I feel grateful to get to see a band that I enjoy. I don't want to see someone damage their body. I also don't want to see the shows become a tired routine. I'm cool with them touring how and when they want. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,950
    I like QOTSA.  Would be awesome to have a double headliner.  I wouldn't go to a Neil Young show.  I would not like a double headliner show with Neil.  
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    For context, Neil typically play hour and 45 to 2 hours with the Horse (at least in 2018 and 2019).

    Pearl Jam recently has been 2 hours to 2.5 hours 

    If the compromise is NY and the Horse for 1.5 - 1.75 hours and PJ for 2 hours, I’ll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    let’s play this out for a moment with a 6pm start

    josh opens with 30 minute set 6 - 6:30

    30 minute change over (likely at most) 6:30 - 7

    neil and the horse 7 - 8:30 - 8:45 if Josh change over can be done in 15 or so

    30 minute change over 8:30 - 9

    pearl Jam 9 - 11

    Yep sounds like a fantastic night to me.

  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 908
    edited April 2023
    With all due respect to Neil Young, I would much prefer PJ play with a more youthful band to keep them on their toes and bring some energy to the overall show.  But would much prefer An Evening with JUST Pearl Jam :)
    Post edited by vedpunk on
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