Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.
interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.
In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.
If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.
Only 9 shows, if true, after 4 of the last 6 years featured zero headline shows (or a couple festivals) is weird
At this point, they might as well start labeling every tour Farewell Part 1, 2 etc. because it’s going to take them forever to see all their fans/markets one more time.
Some of those markets are never gonna see them again, they just don’t know it yet. And all of us who aren’t in a major city are just hoping it ain’t us.
This is unfortunately probably extremely accurate. I agree.
Wish PJ would play Moline again
2000 - Chicago, IL 2003 - Champaign, IL 2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza 2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2010 - St. Louis, MO 2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT 2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK 2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI) 2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ?? 2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV 2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows) 2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL 2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
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DMB has been giving shows to brand new venues for years, I assume mainly due to their huge connection to Live Nation / MusicToday / Coran Capshaw. They've played small new venues in B'ham, Huntsville, Southaven, JAX, etc. Looks like PJ doing the same, Austin Moody Center opened a year ago, Dickies opened NOV 2019 just before COVID hit. Every venue has it's own P/L and new venues need big sellout shows to be profitable asap.
As long as they don’t go the DMB route and play new, 7,000 seat places (Live Oak - Wilmington, NC) and have them sell out in seconds to the scalper market.
If Pearl Jam does what they did for the 2022 tour, they shouldn't be too worried about scalpers.
1) Digital tickets only. 2) The only way to transfer is via Fan2Fan. 3) Do whatever The Cure did to restrict people selling TM passwords.
What was done?
I'm curious too, because as long as you know the password, you can download the tickets into your wallet on the phone (like Google wallet). Once you do that you don't even need the password anymore. So you could get someone to login, download the tickets, then change the password. Bit of kryptonite in the process.
They cross referenced seat locations listed on stubhub etc and cancelled them. Still basically the same as PJ as there were a few that showed up on stubhub etc that were removed but not sure if they were actually cancelled. Either way you didn't see any on those sites..expect for scalper friendly state shows.
Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.
Only 9 shows, if true, after 4 of the last 6 years featured zero headline shows (or a couple festivals) is weird
At this point, they might as well start labeling every tour Farewell Part 1, 2 etc. because it’s going to take them forever to see all their fans/markets one more time.
Some of those markets are never gonna see them again, they just don’t know it yet. And all of us who aren’t in a major city are just hoping it ain’t us.
This is unfortunately probably extremely accurate. I agree.
Wish PJ would play Moline again
That was a fun show.
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06.27.98 Alpine Valley 10.08.00 Alpine Valley 09.23.02 Chicago 06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley 10.03.04 Grand Rapids 10.05.05 Chicago 05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee 08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago 08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago 05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland 09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley 07.19.13 Chicago 10.17.14 Moline 08.20.16 Chicago 08.18.18 Chicago 09.18.22 St. Louis 09.05.23 Chicago
can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
Merch
Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else.
Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
I missed a day from this thread. 200 updates. A fake news Philly show and a bunch of chatter. And a new type of file. Just another typical day.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
Merch
Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else.
Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
I doubt they'll do mid-winter, but I can see them do something in May, once the NBA and NHL go into playoffs.
Apparently part of the reason why Columbus had that 2010 show was the local NHL team's failure to make the playoffs. I had heard PJ also had Dallas and State College booked that same date. (5/6/2010.)
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can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
Merch
Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else.
Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
Posters are $45 now.
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can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
Merch
Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else.
Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
I doubt they'll do mid-winter, but I can see them do something in May, once the NBA and NHL go into playoffs.
Apparently part of the reason why Columbus had that 2010 show was the local NHL team's failure to make the playoffs. I had heard PJ also had Dallas and State College booked that same date. (5/6/2010.)
State College did have a hold. Dallas probably not since that wouldn't make any sense logistically.
😂😂😂 all the hype for 8 shows! This band needs to stop taking themselves so seriously, this is not 1994
9 shows! Get it right.
I stand corrected! Yeah 9 shows that makes it better 😂😂
9 shows.....WTF
Can somebody here do me a favor? Can somebody here be so kind to look up just how many shows Pearl Jam has played in the USA since 2010? Not including Bridge shows, or Vedder solo. How many full blown Pearl Jam shows has there been IN THE USA since 2010? USA only! Including 2010. If anyone can, much appreciated. If not? Then just tell me to look it up myself! hahaha
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Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
Any insight here on if this is something that’s actually may happen or are you just wondering?
There’s a lot that would make more sense about the two night stands and the very limited run if that were to be the case.
The coheadliner that I think you reference has mentioned working with a couple of friends on a sustainable tour for 7 or 8 months as of Nov 2022 and was looking for summer venues earlier this year.
Perhaps they placed the holds and decided to go forward either way with or without coheadliner and are waiting for a yes/no from possible coheadliner.
curious if there’s anything more than theory here. Mine is strictly wondering out loud based on what’s known.
Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
Any insight here on if this is something that’s actually may happen or are you just wondering?
There’s a lot that would make more sense about the two night stands and the very limited run if that were to be the case.
The coheadliner that I think you reference has mentioned working with a couple of friends on a sustainable tour for 7 or 8 months as of Nov 2022 and was looking for summer venues earlier this year.
Perhaps they placed the holds and decided to go forward either way with or without coheadliner and are waiting for a yes/no from possible coheadliner.
curious if there’s anything more than theory here. Mine is strictly wondering out loud based on what’s known.
If the co-headliner being inferred is who I think it is, I think there was a better chance of them playing Ohana than touring indoor venues.
😂😂😂 all the hype for 8 shows! This band needs to stop taking themselves so seriously, this is not 1994
9 shows! Get it right.
I stand corrected! Yeah 9 shows that makes it better 😂😂
9 shows.....WTF
Can somebody here do me a favor? Can somebody here be so kind to look up just how many shows Pearl Jam has played in the USA since 2010? Not including Bridge shows, or Vedder solo. How many full blown Pearl Jam shows has there been IN THE USA since 2010? USA only! Including 2010. If anyone can, much appreciated. If not? Then just tell me to look it up myself! hahaha
2010 - 16 2011 - 2 2012 - 4 2013 - 24 2014 - 14 2015 - 1 2016 - 20 2017 - 0 2018 - 7 2019 - 0 2020 - 0 2021 - 4 2022 - 15 TOTAL - 107 with an average of 8.9 over the 12 year span
Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
Any insight here on if this is something that’s actually may happen or are you just wondering?
There’s a lot that would make more sense about the two night stands and the very limited run if that were to be the case.
The coheadliner that I think you reference has mentioned working with a couple of friends on a sustainable tour for 7 or 8 months as of Nov 2022 and was looking for summer venues earlier this year.
Perhaps they placed the holds and decided to go forward either way with or without coheadliner and are waiting for a yes/no from possible coheadliner.
curious if there’s anything more than theory here. Mine is strictly wondering out loud based on what’s known.
If the co-headliner being inferred is who I think it is, I think there was a better chance of them playing Ohana than touring indoor venues.
Maybe but the timing is off for Ohana.
that’s the other factor is that I expect Farm Aid would be the end of that person’s possible tour which is expected to be September 23rd.
In that scenario, they might split post Austin with one heading towards Vegas for a one off show and the other towards Farm Aid (I’m thinking it may be in Atlanta this year but don’t know, Margo Price plays Nashville next day so it can’t be too far from Nashville and it won’t be any of the venues on the Outlaw tour with Willie either which greatly reduces the list).
2010 - 16 2011 - 2 2012 - 4 2013 - 24 2014 - 14 2015 - 1 2016 - 20 2017 - 0 2018 - 7 2019 - 0 2020 - 0 2021 - 4 2022 - 15 TOTAL - 107 with an average of 8.9 over the 12 year span
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26 shows in the USA in the last 6.5 years.
In fairness, COVID skews that slightly but agree that average likely wouldn’t exceed 10 if no COVID.
I knew it would take ONE POST before covid was brought up. 28 shows from 2015-2020 These guys should be pretty well rested. hahahahahaha
lol yea laying out the numbers like that actually makes it seem WORSE not better lol that run from 10 to 14 was great during the backspacer years but since then its been a tailspin of decline lol
2010 - 16 2011 - 2 2012 - 4 2013 - 24 2014 - 14 2015 - 1 2016 - 20 2017 - 0 2018 - 7 2019 - 0 2020 - 0 2021 - 4 2022 - 15 TOTAL - 107 with an average of 8.9 over the 12 year span
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glad i could help! lol
26 shows in the USA in the last 6.5 years.
In fairness, COVID skews that slightly but agree that average likely wouldn’t exceed 10 if no COVID.
I knew it would take ONE POST before covid was brought up. 28 shows from 2015-2020 These guys should be pretty well rested. hahahahahaha
lol yea laying out the numbers like that actually makes it seem WORSE not better lol that run from 10 to 14 was great during the backspacer years but since then its been a tailspin of decline lol
Lets just hope that is not the next album title.
PEARL JAM A TAILSPIN OF DECLINE!
hahahahahahaha
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interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.
If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I doubt they'll do mid-winter, but I can see them do something in May, once the NBA and NHL go into playoffs.
Apparently part of the reason why Columbus had that 2010 show was the local NHL team's failure to make the playoffs. I had heard PJ also had Dallas and State College booked that same date. (5/6/2010.)
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Can somebody here do me a favor? Can somebody here be so kind to look up just how many shows Pearl Jam has played in the USA since 2010? Not including Bridge shows, or Vedder solo. How many full blown Pearl Jam shows has there been IN THE USA since 2010? USA only! Including 2010.
If anyone can, much appreciated.
If not? Then just tell me to look it up myself! hahaha
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
There’s a lot that would make more sense about the two night stands and the very limited run if that were to be the case.
The coheadliner that I think you reference has mentioned working with a couple of friends on a sustainable tour for 7 or 8 months as of Nov 2022 and was looking for summer venues earlier this year.
Perhaps they placed the holds and decided to go forward either way with or without coheadliner and are waiting for a yes/no from possible coheadliner.
curious if there’s anything more than theory here. Mine is strictly wondering out loud based on what’s known.
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2010 - 16
2011 - 2
2012 - 4
2013 - 24
2014 - 14
2015 - 1
2016 - 20
2017 - 0
2018 - 7
2019 - 0
2020 - 0
2021 - 4
2022 - 15
TOTAL - 107 with an average of 8.9 over the 12 year span
2013 - Philly 1, philly 2, charlottesville,
2015 - NYC (global citizen)
2016 - Philly 1&2
2022 - Camden
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
2013 - Philly 1, philly 2, charlottesville,
2015 - NYC (global citizen)
2016 - Philly 1&2
2022 - Camden
that’s the other factor is that I expect Farm Aid would be the end of that person’s possible tour which is expected to be September 23rd.
In that scenario, they might split post Austin with one heading towards Vegas for a one off show and the other towards Farm Aid (I’m thinking it may be in Atlanta this year but don’t know, Margo Price plays Nashville next day so it can’t be too far from Nashville and it won’t be any of the venues on the Outlaw tour with Willie either which greatly reduces the list).
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
28 shows from 2015-2020
These guys should be pretty well rested. hahahahahaha
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
2013 - Philly 1, philly 2, charlottesville,
2015 - NYC (global citizen)
2016 - Philly 1&2
2022 - Camden
PEARL JAM
A TAILSPIN OF DECLINE!
hahahahahahaha
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....