What’s up with Fresno?

DissidentRival74

100 Pacer said:

RK50065 said:

given2fly23 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Not sure why the show that doesn't sell is going to be the show of the tour.  

That’s just how these guys are. In the words of a dear friend after a recent show…that’s why they’re our band. 

so have they done this before or just wishful thinking? 

See the ‘03 Japan setlists.

Love those boots. 

PJNB

Not adding another night in Vegas and adding Fresno is a real head scratcher for me. 

RatherStarved

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

I guess it’s a maximum of 6600 sold as some of the greyed out dots could be as yet unreleased inventory.  Also did you count behind the stage dots? If so I’d remove those from the count.  

JimmyV

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

And of those tickets sold, how many are held by people who upgraded their seats and are now trying to dump their originals?

ClownofThorns

PJNB said:

Not adding another night in Vegas and adding Fresno is a real head scratcher for me. 

I like the "throw in a concert that will have good tickets still available leading up to the show" model. Might draw in some fans who aren't willing to F5 the F2F all day. Probably won't, but I don't think having an undersold show or two is a big deal. 

ClownofThorns

JimmyV said:

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

And of those tickets sold, how many are held by people who upgraded their seats and are now trying to dump their originals?

Those seats would be pink, so he didn't count them (I presume). 

PJNB

ClownofThorns said:

PJNB said:

Not adding another night in Vegas and adding Fresno is a real head scratcher for me. 

I like the "throw in a concert that will have good tickets still available leading up to the show" model. Might draw in some fans who aren't willing to F5 the F2F all day. Probably won't, but I don't think having an undersold show or two is a big deal. 

This is not under sold. It is not even half sold. 

Haijay

It’s a small market, it’s a Monday night, and the planet is only barely emerging from two years of life changing circumstances, those are three big pretty reasons right there. Nevermind the location, lol. Still, they’ll prob draw 8 to 9 thousand. Not bad not bad
As far as the other cali shows go, and arizona, they were all sold out in 2020, the whole tour was, AGAIN. Theres 40 million people in cali, it’s not about the demand, it’s the world we still live in right now. With the exception of Oak 1, the shows are basically sold out save for a couple hundred?seats  left, and behind the stage

RatherStarved

As one of the 12 people there, I hope I can get my requests played.  

ClownofThorns

PJNB said:

ClownofThorns said:

PJNB said:

Not adding another night in Vegas and adding Fresno is a real head scratcher for me. 

I like the "throw in a concert that will have good tickets still available leading up to the show" model. Might draw in some fans who aren't willing to F5 the F2F all day. Probably won't, but I don't think having an undersold show or two is a big deal. 

This is not under sold. It is not even half sold. 

An arbitrary distinction, but ok. I know I'm in the minority, but I don't think it's a bad thing to have shows out there where we can get good tickets this late in the game. It's strange for PJ fans, I suppose, but I like it. 

ClownofThorns

RatherStarved said:

As one of the 12 people there, I hope I can get my requests played.  

If there's only 12 of us, we should just reach a consensus setlist. Everyone gets one veto. 

Jason7192

JimmyV said:

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

And of those tickets sold, how many are held by people who upgraded their seats and are now trying to dump their originals?

A little over 100 of those are F2F tickets, so it's not a significant population, but they're included in the 6600 total since the seat was initially sold. I did not include anything behind the stage because I counted just the sold seats & those were never up for sale.

ClownofThorns

Jason7192 said:

JimmyV said:

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

And of those tickets sold, how many are held by people who upgraded their seats and are now trying to dump their originals?

A little over 100 of those are F2F tickets, so it's not a significant population, but they're included in the 6600 total since the seat was initially sold. I did not include anything behind the stage because I counted just the sold seats & those were never up for sale.

Your methods are impressive! 

Jason7192

Lol. Thanks!

JimmyV

Jason7192 said:

JimmyV said:

Jason7192 said:

amlee said:

It's going to be crazy and I think maybe the most unique show of the tour. Fresno, for those who haven't been on the West Coast is VERY isolated in the state...geographically and I'd say culturally. I lived up and down CA for over a decade and never even came close to going there. Also consider that the Save-Mart Center is 16k capacity but they have blocked out all the seats to the side of and behind the stage...so maybe they're actually selling, what...12-13k? Now look at how many tickets have been sold...

If someone is willing to manually count them (LOL), I think maybe it's a few thousand people in that building as of now...should be wild!

I got bored & counted. Lol. As of this morning, there are just shy of 6600 seats sold plus whatever is in GA. 

And of those tickets sold, how many are held by people who upgraded their seats and are now trying to dump their originals?

A little over 100 of those are F2F tickets, so it's not a significant population, but they're included in the 6600 total since the seat was initially sold. I did not include anything behind the stage because I counted just the sold seats & those were never up for sale.

You did an impressive job!

JimmyV

It isn't that playing Fresno is bad, or that having an undersold show is bad, or that California is bad. It's that they haven't played arenas in the U.S. since 2016 and the fanbase is starving to see them...and they scheduled one of their few new shows in a city that can't even fill GA. We've never seen GA tickets available like this. It's remarkable, and people are remarking. It's not an attack on the Fresno which we all do know is the American Paris. 

Poncier

Haijay said:

It’s a small market, it’s a Monday night, and the planet is only barely emerging from two years of life changing circumstances, those are three big pretty reasons right there. Nevermind the location, lol. Still, they’ll prob draw 8 to 9 thousand. Not bad not bad
As far as the other cali shows go, and arizona, they were all sold out in 2020, the whole tour was, AGAIN. Theres 30 million people in cali, it’s not about the de

With the exception of Oak 1, the shows are basically sold out

mand, it’s the world we still live in right now.  save for a couple hundred?seats  left, and behind the stage

Sacramento is only performing marginally better than Fresno.

drakeheuer14

Poncier said:

Haijay said:

It’s a small market, it’s a Monday night, and the planet is only barely emerging from two years of life changing circumstances, those are three big pretty reasons right there. Nevermind the location, lol. Still, they’ll prob draw 8 to 9 thousand. Not bad not bad
As far as the other cali shows go, and arizona, they were all sold out in 2020, the whole tour was, AGAIN. Theres 30 million people in cali, it’s not about the de

With the exception of Oak 1, the shows are basically sold out

mand, it’s the world we still live in right now.  save for a couple hundred?seats  left, and behind the stage

Sacramento is only performing marginally better than Fresno.

Which proves they were weird additions, not that Fresno sucks. I guess bay area people chose other shows too if they don’t want to make that small journey to Sac

iOnlyownMymind

Maybe they should consider blocking off more than half the arena (see the Bill Burr show arrangement there on Ticketmaster for May 13th). 

huntersthompson

RatherStarved said:

As one of the 12 people there, I hope I can get my requests played.  

Just wait for a quiet moment and yell your request with all the vigor you can muster......