I have never seen 1 person in this forum or anywhere else that supports the illegal purchase of firearms, unless you’re talking about something like the Branch Davidians. Most are even okay with stricter laws. Now I don’t think he deserves the 25 years max. But why have gun les if we openly don’t enforce them? Why fight for more les when we don’t enforce the ones we already have? Seems like common sense to hold him accountable to some extent, especially given the gun problem in America.
he is the first person to have these charges filed against him. it is only because his last name is biden.
But your last statement may be right. That’s also had nothing to do with my comment. My comment is you won’t find gun supporters, or at least not a significant portion of them, who crlebreate the purchase of illegal guns that others were claiming.
It probably is true this is rarely charged. But it’s not never. But it’s also probably a little more difficult to prove. How many smokers do you know that quit every month and claim they aren’t addicted? I would imagine it’s hard to prove someone was addicted and lied at the moment they signed that form. But being in the public eye and writing a book about your addictions does make that a lot easier to prove. I’ve asked this several times and no one has answered. How do we have this gun problem that we have, and yet intentionally not follow through on the gun laws that we have? Also seems like the crowd that calls for more gun control are the same ones that want to look the other way for Hunter. There is zero question that he is guilty. The only argument is we shouldn’t be enforcing this law for Hunter. What’s the point of having gun laws if we openly don’t enforce them? Im not saying lock him up for years. Those examples I posted got 3 months. Because of security issues, give him something equivalent, like 6 months probation, 200 hours of community service and 100k fine.
Oh please...there is a significant number or voters and GOP lawmakers who don't even want to expand background checks.
I'm all for gun laws...even laws that don't exist yet
Don’t most polls say even the majority of gun owners are for basic gun restrictions like universal background checks?
since when did the gop give a flying fuck what the average citizen much less the vast majority of gun owning nra members?
My comment was in response to "the dude bought a gun, the right should be overjoyed." I know that was a joke, trying to make fun of the hypocrisy of the right prosecuting someone for buying a gun.
But what is "the right"? I take that to mean anyone who identifies as a conservative or repub, does it not? And not just the politicians in office. And the truth is the overwhelming majority, something like 80% of the right, support basic gun laws. Ones like universal background checks. Have the dems tried passing just a simple bill like that? Or do they contain a lot more fillers that they try to pass too?
Are you actually trying to insinuate it is the democrats standing in the way of a universal background check bill?
That was actually a real question. Has anyone proposed a simple bill on universal background checks? I actually don't know for sure, but I do know it is common to tack on a bunch of other unnecessary items that make the bill less desirable. Because if not, how do you blame just the Republicans when the Dems haven't tried? Polls show that the overwhelming number of Americans, including gun owners and those on the right, want universal checks.
Yes they have, as the links provided by others indicate.
Republicans are to blame because they are bought and paid for by the NRA.
Here’s a suggestion, if you live in a repub district, contact your representative and senator and ask them why they haven’t supported the bill. Please post your answer. I know from experience that out of district and state inquiries go unanswered. It’s as simple as writing an email to their congressional and senate offices.
"Mr. Fleischmann,
I am a registered voter, gun owner and teacher. Like many, I have had growing concerns with gun violence. I have small children who attend elementary school and have asked why they have shooter drills. I have participated in shooter drills myself as an educator.
As a gun owner, I do not oppose universal background checks for firearm purchases. It is my understanding that you did not support the Background Checks Expansion Act.
I was hoping to hear from you what your concerns are with the bill, why you believe this would not be the right step towards reducing gun violence in our country and why you did not support it.
Here’s a suggestion, if you live in a repub district, contact your representative and senator and ask them why they haven’t supported the bill. Please post your answer. I know from experience that out of district and state inquiries go unanswered. It’s as simple as writing an email to their congressional and senate offices.
"Mr. Fleischmann,
I am a registered republican, gun owner and teacher. Like many, I have had growing concerns with gun violence. I have small children who attend elementary school and have asked why they have shooter drills. I have participated in shooter drills myself as an educator.
As a gun owner, I do not oppose universal background checks for firearm purchases. It is my understanding that you did not support the Background Checks Expansion Act.
I was hoping to hear from you what your concerns are with the bill, why you believe this would not be the right step towards reducing gun violence in our country and why you did not support it.
Thank you for your time,"
I'll let you know when I get a response.
It's great you took the time to do this. Thanks for sharing.
Here’s a suggestion, if you live in a repub district, contact your representative and senator and ask them why they haven’t supported the bill. Please post your answer. I know from experience that out of district and state inquiries go unanswered. It’s as simple as writing an email to their congressional and senate offices.
"Mr. Fleischmann,
I am a registered voter, gun owner and teacher. Like many, I have had growing concerns with gun violence. I have small children who attend elementary school and have asked why they have shooter drills. I have participated in shooter drills myself as an educator.
As a gun owner, I do not oppose universal background checks for firearm purchases. It is my understanding that you did not support the Background Checks Expansion Act.
I was hoping to hear from you what your concerns are with the bill, why you believe this would not be the right step towards reducing gun violence in our country and why you did not support it.
Thank you for your time,"
I'll let you know when I get a response.
Awesome! Now, when you get the canned email response from the intern, respond that you’d like to speak with a legislative aid or the esteemed congressman as you’re not satisfied with the explanation. You will eventually get to speak with someone. It’s how “things” “change.”
Clearly a canned response based on the subject I selected from the drop down menu. I’ll see if I can get a more precise answer later.
“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
Clearly a canned response based on the subject I selected from the drop down menu. I’ll see if I can get a more precise answer later.
“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
I would pointedly respond to the bolded sections of the congressman’s response. Universal background checks do not infringe upon the 2A rights of law abiding citizens. Those free of mental health issues and felony drug convictions or addiction issues, anyways.
Clearly a canned response based on the subject I selected from the drop down menu. I’ll see if I can get a more precise answer later.
“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
"well regulated"...that doesn't get enough attention
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Clearly a canned response based on the subject I selected from the drop down menu. I’ll see if I can get a more precise answer later.
“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
Clearly a canned response based on the subject I selected from the drop down menu. I’ll see if I can get a more precise answer later.
“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
"well regulated"...that doesn't get enough attention
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If POOTWH is found to have violated a firearms law, I look forward to the demands of the pro gun crowd to enforce existing gun laws. Would love to see their posts in support of pressing charges.
“The defendant either purchased a gun in violation of the law and his conditions of release, or seeks to benefit from his supporters’ mistaken belief that he did so,” the court filing argues. “It would be a separate federal crime, and thus a violation of the defendant’s conditions of release, for him to purchase a gun while this felony indictment is pending.”
The prosecutors were referring to social media posts by the Trump campaign earlier this week, when a staffer posted a video of Trump — who is the Republican frontrunner for the 2024 presidential nomination— at the Palmetto State Armory, a gun store in Summerville, S.C.
The video “showed the defendant holding a Glock pistol with the defendant’s likeness etched into it. The defendant stated, ‘I’ve got to buy one,’ and posed for pictures,” the prosecutors’ filing states, noting that the staffer posted the video with a caption that said: “President Trump purchases a @GLOCKInc in South Carolina!”
The campaign staffer later deleted the post and retracted the claim, saying Trump did not purchase or take possession of the gun. The latter claim, prosecutors note in their filing, is “directly contradicted by the video showing the defendant possessing the pistol.”
Only further confusing the issue, Trump reposted a video of the interaction made by someone else, which had the caption: “MY PRESIDENT Trump just bought a Golden Glock before his rally in South Carolina after being arrested 4 TIMES in a year.”
The prosecutors raised the South Carolina incident in arguing that the judge in D.C. overseeing Trump’s pending federal charges of obstructing the 2020 election results should impose a gag order on the former president because of public statements he has made attacking prosecutors, the judge and potential witnesses. Those statements, prosecutors argue, could intimidate jurors or bias the pool of prospective jurors.
The defendant should not be permitted to obtain the benefits of his incendiary public statements and then avoid accountability by having others — whose messages he knows will receive markedly less attention than his own — feign retraction,” the prosecutors wrote.
Prosecutors argued in court filings that just as Trump knowingly spouted lies that the 2020 election had been stolen in the hopes of undoing those results, the former president now is attempting to undermine confidence in the judicial system by pumping out near-daily “disparaging and inflammatory attacks” about potential jurors, witnesses, prosecutors and the judge.
Prosecutors Molly Gaston and Thomas Windom cited the arrest of a Texas woman charged with making death threats against Chutkan; the lodging of “multiple threats” against special counsel Jack Smith; and “intimidating communications” directed at Justice Department official Jay Bratt.
Trump’s attorneys have fired back that a gag order against a leading candidate for president would be a violation of his rights, accusing prosecutors of trying to strip the former president “of his First Amendment freedoms during the most important months of his campaign against President Biden.”
They said that Trump has never called for any improper or unlawful action, nor intimidated or incited anyone to cause actual harm, based on the courts’ legal definition of inciting imminent lawless action and the number of the government’s witnesses.
In Friday’s filing, prosecutors listed a fresh spate of what they considered alarming Trump statements since their gag order request was made Sept. 5, after which Trump called Smith “a deranged person” who “wants to take away my rights under the First Amendment.”
Trump has attacked multiple witnesses identified in his indictment, saying for example that he had seen his vice president, Mike Pence, “make up stories about me, which are absolutely false”; claiming that his former attorney general William P. Barr didn’t do his job because he was afraid of being impeached; and suggesting that in times past his former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, would have been executed for treason.
Trump also falsely claimed that another witness named in his indictment, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, knew about and covered up tens of thousands of fraudulent votes in Georgia, and recently said that Trump “didn’t do anything wrong,” prosecutors said.
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Republicans are to blame because they are bought and paid for by the NRA.
I'll let you know when I get a response.
-EV 8/14/93
Will love to hear what, if any response you get.
Looking forward to hearing what you get back.
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“Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts on the Second Amendment. It is an honor to serve you as your Representative in Congress.
The words of the Second Amendment are clear and direct: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Gun control restricts the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to practice their Second Amendment rights and never stops criminals from breaking the law.
I will always welcome a thoughtful discussion on how to make our country safer. However, I will not be supporting an assault weapons ban, a universal gun registry, a ban on certain types of magazines, red flag laws, or any other gun control that violates our Second Amendment rights. Statistics have proven that banning certain weapons and having stricter anti-gun policies have no effect on curbing violence. Congress should be more focused on examining strategies to ensure that those with mental-health conditions are identified and provided with appropriate care and attention within their communities. The best approach to addressing gun violence is to promote a respect for human dignity and life within our families, schools, and neighborhoods, and to enforce the statutes that we already have on the books.
The simple fact is that a clear majority of Americans support gun rights. For this reason, you can be assured that I will stand strong in order to protect your Second Amendment Rights. Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and I hope you will let me know if I may be of further assistance in the future.”
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What a bunch of bullshit.
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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Now I'll sue you because my dumb crack head forgot I left my laptop.
What a bunch of morons!
FJB!
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-EV 8/14/93
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Federal prosecutors said in a Friday night filing that former president Donald Trump may have broken the law if he bought a handgun at a recent campaign stop in South Carolina.
“The defendant either purchased a gun in violation of the law and his conditions of release, or seeks to benefit from his supporters’ mistaken belief that he did so,” the court filing argues. “It would be a separate federal crime, and thus a violation of the defendant’s conditions of release, for him to purchase a gun while this felony indictment is pending.”
The prosecutors were referring to social media posts by the Trump campaign earlier this week, when a staffer posted a video of Trump — who is the Republican frontrunner for the 2024 presidential nomination— at the Palmetto State Armory, a gun store in Summerville, S.C.
The video “showed the defendant holding a Glock pistol with the defendant’s likeness etched into it. The defendant stated, ‘I’ve got to buy one,’ and posed for pictures,” the prosecutors’ filing states, noting that the staffer posted the video with a caption that said: “President Trump purchases a @GLOCKInc in South Carolina!”
The campaign staffer later deleted the post and retracted the claim, saying Trump did not purchase or take possession of the gun. The latter claim, prosecutors note in their filing, is “directly contradicted by the video showing the defendant possessing the pistol.”
Only further confusing the issue, Trump reposted a video of the interaction made by someone else, which had the caption: “MY PRESIDENT Trump just bought a Golden Glock before his rally in South Carolina after being arrested 4 TIMES in a year.”
The prosecutors raised the South Carolina incident in arguing that the judge in D.C. overseeing Trump’s pending federal charges of obstructing the 2020 election results should impose a gag order on the former president because of public statements he has made attacking prosecutors, the judge and potential witnesses. Those statements, prosecutors argue, could intimidate jurors or bias the pool of prospective jurors.
The defendant should not be permitted to obtain the benefits of his incendiary public statements and then avoid accountability by having others — whose messages he knows will receive markedly less attention than his own — feign retraction,” the prosecutors wrote.
The judge overseeing the case, Tanya S. Chutkan, has scheduled an Oct. 16 hearing for lawyers to debate the request for a limited gag order to stop Trump from spreading prejudicial pretrial publicity.
Prosecutors argued in court filings that just as Trump knowingly spouted lies that the 2020 election had been stolen in the hopes of undoing those results, the former president now is attempting to undermine confidence in the judicial system by pumping out near-daily “disparaging and inflammatory attacks” about potential jurors, witnesses, prosecutors and the judge.
Prosecutors Molly Gaston and Thomas Windom cited the arrest of a Texas woman charged with making death threats against Chutkan; the lodging of “multiple threats” against special counsel Jack Smith; and “intimidating communications” directed at Justice Department official Jay Bratt.
Trump’s attorneys have fired back that a gag order against a leading candidate for president would be a violation of his rights, accusing prosecutors of trying to strip the former president “of his First Amendment freedoms during the most important months of his campaign against President Biden.”
They said that Trump has never called for any improper or unlawful action, nor intimidated or incited anyone to cause actual harm, based on the courts’ legal definition of inciting imminent lawless action and the number of the government’s witnesses.
In Friday’s filing, prosecutors listed a fresh spate of what they considered alarming Trump statements since their gag order request was made Sept. 5, after which Trump called Smith “a deranged person” who “wants to take away my rights under the First Amendment.”
Trump has attacked multiple witnesses identified in his indictment, saying for example that he had seen his vice president, Mike Pence, “make up stories about me, which are absolutely false”; claiming that his former attorney general William P. Barr didn’t do his job because he was afraid of being impeached; and suggesting that in times past his former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, would have been executed for treason.
Trump also falsely claimed that another witness named in his indictment, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, knew about and covered up tens of thousands of fraudulent votes in Georgia, and recently said that Trump “didn’t do anything wrong,” prosecutors said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/09/29/trump-gun-special-counsel-gag-order/
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