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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,174
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,335
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

    Too bad the repubs in congress didn't get the memo then, eh?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
    edited August 2023
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.


    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/appointment-special-counsel-2

    Attorney General Merrick B. Garland announced today the appointment of U.S. Attorney David Weiss to serve as Special Counsel for the ongoing investigation and prosecutions referenced and described in United States v. Robert Hunter Biden, as well as for any other matters that arose or may arise from that investigation. Mr. Weiss was nominated by the former president in 2017 and confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 2018. In 2021, he was asked to remain as U.S. Attorney for the District of Delaware, where he led this ongoing investigation. On Tuesday, Aug. 8, Mr. Weiss requested to be appointed as Special Counsel, and today the Attorney General made that appointment.

    “On Tuesday of this week, Mr. Weiss advised me that in his judgment, his investigation has reached a stage at which he should continue his work as a Special Counsel, and he asked to be so appointed,” said Attorney General Garland. “Upon considering his request, as well as the extraordinary circumstances relating to this matter, I have concluded it is in the public interest to appoint him as Special Counsel. This appointment confirms my commitment to provide Mr. Weiss all the resources he requests. It also reaffirms that Mr. Weiss has the authority he needs to conduct a thorough investigation and to continue to take the steps he deems appropriate independently, based only on the facts and the law.”

    The Attorney General also said, “As Special Counsel, he will continue to have the authority and responsibility that he has exercised previously to oversee the investigation and decide where, when, and whether to file charges. The Special Counsel will not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the Department, but he must comply with the regulations, procedures, and policies of the Department … Today’s announcement affords the prosecutors, agents, and analysts working on this matter the ability to proceed with their work expeditiously, and to make decisions indisputably guided only by the facts and the law … I am confident that Mr. Weiss will carry out his responsibility in an even-handed and urgent matter, and in accordance with the highest traditions of this Department.”

    Updated August 11, 2023

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,908
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

    Get ready for indictment #4 coming this week for mango Mussolini 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    edited August 2023
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

    How did Bill Barr also miss the memo and become a partisan hack when John Durham was appointed as special counsel?

    Halifax - can I get a stern looking photo of Durham please?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,335

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
    edited August 2023
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.


    well this is awkward.....

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    mickeyrat said:
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.


    well this is awkward.....

    Wait, John Durham? What does he look like?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,335
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.


    well this is awkward.....

    Wait, John Durham? What does he look like?
    And it’s Bull. Bull Durham.


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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    There’s a lot of different angles to this, for those who are willing to consider them. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?

    5th circuit struck down the law as unconstitutional that would have been used to prosecute.

    his gun charge is out.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,908
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?

    5th circuit struck down the law as unconstitutional that would have been used to prosecute.

    his gun charge is out.
    This is why it won't stick.  Of course iyou won't hear this on Fox
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    edited August 2023
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,335
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    And hence why the DOJ, under the criminal mastermind Brandon, are appealing the ruling, which will probably arrive at SCOTUS. And how do you think they’ll rule?

    The glee being expressed by some on here, and I’ll only speak for myself, is once again, the hypocrisy of the right and their stance on gun ownership and possession, (who do you think is backing the plaintiff in this and other gun possession by criminals’ cases like domestic abusers) and how they’re hot and heavy for Hunter to pay a price for violating the law, never mind that the law is rarely enforced or even charged, for a myriad of reasons already posted, Hunter pleads guilty and the plea deal falls apart and then the 5th circuit rules so Hunter can’t even be charged until it’s appealed, heard and ruled on. Repubs and cons need to make up their mind on what they’re “for.” Fucking hilarious.

    I, for one, and others on here have said that Hunter should face the consequences of his actions, despite being the son of POTUS and that he’s already being treated far differently than the average citizen who breaks the same laws. And it all blew up in their faces. Boo fucking hoo.

    How do you feel about domestic abusers possessing firearms?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this.  The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court.  You don't see the irony in that?  I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.  
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this.  The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court.  You don't see the irony in that?  I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.  
    I do see the irony in it. But I think the reaction from the left is a bigger irony.
    If you talk to the average gun owner, they are for reasonable restrictions and would not want a drug addict having possession of a gun. Irresponsible gun owners make responsible ones look bad. People should be upset that this law was shot down and allows addicts to possess a gun rather than celebrating the failure of a law that can mock the GOP.
    I also don't know what reason was used. All I've heard is it was a 5th circuit court deemed it unconstitutional, who doesn't have jurisdiction over Hunter's case, but expect his lawyers to cite it as precedent. I don't know the details of what this guy was charged with and how similiar they are to Hunter.
    Is the court saying drug addicts still have a 2A right to guns?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
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    Wait.  Is Weiss not a US attorney?  God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack.  Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.  


    § 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

    (a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

    yeah because if Garland had selected someone else you guys would think that was just great...no coverup, nothing

    His best bet was to select the tRump appointee.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
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    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this.  The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court.  You don't see the irony in that?  I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.  
    I do see the irony in it. But I think the reaction from the left is a bigger irony.
    If you talk to the average gun owner, they are for reasonable restrictions and would not want a drug addict having possession of a gun. Irresponsible gun owners make responsible ones look bad. People should be upset that this law was shot down and allows addicts to possess a gun rather than celebrating the failure of a law that can mock the GOP.
    I also don't know what reason was used. All I've heard is it was a 5th circuit court deemed it unconstitutional, who doesn't have jurisdiction over Hunter's case, but expect his lawyers to cite it as precedent. I don't know the details of what this guy was charged with and how similiar they are to Hunter.
    Is the court saying drug addicts still have a 2A right to guns?
    Most people are on board w/ Hunter Biden getting charged with & prosecuted for crimes he's committed. Having said that a lot of people are also burnt out on GOP fuckery, and the Hunter Biden witch hunt is peak GOP fuckery, so yeah... people can't help but laugh at the irony. 

    It's not that complicated. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this.  The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court.  You don't see the irony in that?  I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.  
    I do see the irony in it. But I think the reaction from the left is a bigger irony.
    If you talk to the average gun owner, they are for reasonable restrictions and would not want a drug addict having possession of a gun. Irresponsible gun owners make responsible ones look bad. People should be upset that this law was shot down and allows addicts to possess a gun rather than celebrating the failure of a law that can mock the GOP.
    I also don't know what reason was used. All I've heard is it was a 5th circuit court deemed it unconstitutional, who doesn't have jurisdiction over Hunter's case, but expect his lawyers to cite it as precedent. I don't know the details of what this guy was charged with and how similiar they are to Hunter.
    Is the court saying drug addicts still have a 2A right to guns?
    I don't see the irony on the left that you mention.

    The gun thread is mainly about people that legally buy assault weapons and use them to murder children. Hunter's gun issue was that he owned a handgun and falsely answered a question that he wasn't on drugs or something.

    No connection to make here.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
    If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
    If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.
    It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.
    Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
    Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?

    I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
    It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this.  The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court.  You don't see the irony in that?  I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.  
    I do see the irony in it. But I think the reaction from the left is a bigger irony.
    If you talk to the average gun owner, they are for reasonable restrictions and would not want a drug addict having possession of a gun. Irresponsible gun owners make responsible ones look bad. People should be upset that this law was shot down and allows addicts to possess a gun rather than celebrating the failure of a law that can mock the GOP.
    I also don't know what reason was used. All I've heard is it was a 5th circuit court deemed it unconstitutional, who doesn't have jurisdiction over Hunter's case, but expect his lawyers to cite it as precedent. I don't know the details of what this guy was charged with and how similiar they are to Hunter.
    Is the court saying drug addicts still have a 2A right to guns?
    I don't see the irony on the left that you mention.

    The gun thread is mainly about people that legally buy assault weapons and use them to murder children. Hunter's gun issue was that he owned a handgun and falsely answered a question that he wasn't on drugs or something.

    No connection to make here.
    This is true.  My personal position is that I don't think handguns should be outlawed, full stop.  I do think things like speed bullets and clip capacity should be regulated.  Assault type weapons should be outlawed.  So yes, I find the irony in Hunter having a charge dismissed based on a registration issue, thanks to a conservative court.  

    Although we don't know what's going to happen as I'm sure the DOJ will be appealing.  
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    mickeyrat said:
    Kinda sorta puts things in perspective. 
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    mickeyrat said:
    Kinda sorta puts things in perspective. 
    But have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
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    Unless it's found that Joe Biden has somehow been directly involved or abuses his power to protect his son legally, I couldn't care less about Hunter Biden and whatever shenanigans or fraud he gets up to. He doesn't work in the White House or anything. He should get whatever he deserves under the law. I do feel bad for Joe though, kinda, assuming he hasn't done anything wrong.
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