Hunter Biden Laptop Controversy

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    edited August 2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    We are? 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    We are? 

    yes. the gop digs a deeper hole for itself.... movement. kinda like a bowel......
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    We are? 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    We are? 

    yes. the gop digs a deeper hole for itself.... movement. kinda like a bowel......
    every big reveal has been a swing & a miss...  if there was something there tfg wouldn't have tried to extort a foreign leader into announcing an investigation into the guy. 

    He didn't even care whether or not they investigated him... only that they announced that they were looking into him. 

    If you can't see that for what it is, you're beyond help. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,257
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    We are? 

    yes. the gop digs a deeper hole for itself.... movement. kinda like a bowel......
    every big reveal has been a swing & a miss...  if there was something there tfg wouldn't have tried to extort a foreign leader into announcing an investigation into the guy. 

    He didn't even care whether or not they investigated him... only that they announced that they were looking into him. 

    If you can't see that for what it is, you're beyond help. 
    exactly...they are just always kicking the can down the road. Ignore the misses and move immediately to the next outrage. Then, when that outrage blows up, pivot to the next outrage.

    Fucking pathetic!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,965
    edited August 2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    this reminds me of all the people on this board (and everywhere else) salivating constantly at the prospect of "getting" trump back in 2016 (full disclosure: I was one of them). this was back when no one knew the crimes he had committed/would commit. they just were so desperate to get their guy. this is what this hunter shit seems to me. the right grasping at straws to "get biden" because they can't stand that a dem is in office. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,257
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    this reminds me of all the people on this board (and everywhere else) salivating constantly at the prospect of "getting" trump back in 2016. this was back when no one knew the crimes he had committed/would commit. they just were so desperate to get their guy. this is what this hunter shit seems to me. the right grasping at straws to "get biden" because they can't stand that a dem is in office. 
    It's the same strategy they used to benghazi HRC. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    the only time anyone brings up the saudi deal is when cons bitch and moan about democrat/biden corruption. because it showcases the obvious hypocrisy. get it now?
    No. I don't get it. Is there still an active investigation into the $2billion Saudi deal?

    did I say there was?
    No, you didn't say there was but I was asking because no one can come up with much when it comes to the Saudi deal. The Hunter investigation is still ongoing and we are still seeing movement.

    this reminds me of all the people on this board (and everywhere else) salivating constantly at the prospect of "getting" trump back in 2016. this was back when no one knew the crimes he had committed/would commit. they just were so desperate to get their guy. this is what this hunter shit seems to me. the right grasping at straws to "get biden" because they can't stand that a dem is in office. 
    It's the same strategy they used to benghazi HRC. 
    Kevin McCarthy admitted as much. 

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mccarthy-links-benghazi-panel-clintons-sinking-poll-numbers-n436151

    “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee," McCarthy said. “What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen.”
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
    See, this is why you need to stay out of right wing media.  Your assessment of what happened last week is inaccurate

    During normal questioning that happens for every deal, the judge asked each party if they understood the terms.  The Biden team believed they were receiving immunity from other charges.  The DOJ said no, that Hunter was still under investigation.  So Biden's team did not want to do the deal because they misunderstood the terms.  The judge told both parties to go back and work out a new deal.  Hunter entered a plead of "not guilty" which is just a formality.  

    The judge did question how the two deals overlapped and didn't understand the mechanics of it.  However, the judge did not quash the deal because it was too easy on Hunter.  That's completely inaccurate.   
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
    How did you come to the legal conclusion that FARA was violated when the DOJ hasn't even brought an indictment.  Tell us the evidence you have that the DOJ doesn't.  

    Also, it would have zero to do with Joe Biden, yet again.  
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    It's a question for State.  But she isn't an oligarch.  She's a wealthy businesswoman but does not control entire industries, which is the definition of an oligarch.  She also lives in London and not Russia, so she isn't protected by the Putin gov't.  These are all reasonable reasons as to why she would not be sanctioned.  
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
    See, this is why you need to stay out of right wing media.  Your assessment of what happened last week is inaccurate

    During normal questioning that happens for every deal, the judge asked each party if they understood the terms.  The Biden team believed they were receiving immunity from other charges.  The DOJ said no, that Hunter was still under investigation.  So Biden's team did not want to do the deal because they misunderstood the terms.  The judge told both parties to go back and work out a new deal.  Hunter entered a plead of "not guilty" which is just a formality.  

    The judge did question how the two deals overlapped and didn't understand the mechanics of it.  However, the judge did not quash the deal because it was too easy on Hunter.  That's completely inaccurate.   
    CNN, Right wing media..... https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/takeaways-hunter-biden-plea-hearing/index.html

    Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.

    After a break, he announced that he was accepting the Justice Department’s position that his client was still at risk of possible FARA charges, with an investigation still underway.

    Judge questions constitutionality of gun deal

    Things then appeared to be back on track and Noreika pressed forward with addressing the separate gun deal.

    She said she has “concerns about the constitutionality” of the gun deal because it might violate separation of powers principles.

    The diversion agreement – which isn’t often submitted to a judge – has a provision that says if there is a dispute over whether Hunter Biden breached the terms of the deal, it would go to the judge for fact-finding. Noreika questioned why it would “plop” her in the middle of a deal she didn’t have a say in, and potentially block the Justice Department from bringing charges, a function of the executive branch.

    The judge asked both parties to file additional legal briefs defending the constitutionality of the plea deal that addresses the firearms charges.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
    See, this is why you need to stay out of right wing media.  Your assessment of what happened last week is inaccurate

    During normal questioning that happens for every deal, the judge asked each party if they understood the terms.  The Biden team believed they were receiving immunity from other charges.  The DOJ said no, that Hunter was still under investigation.  So Biden's team did not want to do the deal because they misunderstood the terms.  The judge told both parties to go back and work out a new deal.  Hunter entered a plead of "not guilty" which is just a formality.  

    The judge did question how the two deals overlapped and didn't understand the mechanics of it.  However, the judge did not quash the deal because it was too easy on Hunter.  That's completely inaccurate.   
    CNN, Right wing media..... https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/takeaways-hunter-biden-plea-hearing/index.html

    Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.

    After a break, he announced that he was accepting the Justice Department’s position that his client was still at risk of possible FARA charges, with an investigation still underway.

    Judge questions constitutionality of gun deal

    Things then appeared to be back on track and Noreika pressed forward with addressing the separate gun deal.

    She said she has “concerns about the constitutionality” of the gun deal because it might violate separation of powers principles.

    The diversion agreement – which isn’t often submitted to a judge – has a provision that says if there is a dispute over whether Hunter Biden breached the terms of the deal, it would go to the judge for fact-finding. Noreika questioned why it would “plop” her in the middle of a deal she didn’t have a say in, and potentially block the Justice Department from bringing charges, a function of the executive branch.

    The judge asked both parties to file additional legal briefs defending the constitutionality of the plea deal that addresses the firearms charges.

    So where did the judge call out that the deal was "ridiculous"?

    It's not clear in the least, how the gun deal would violate separation of powers. That statement needs to be fleshed out to opine on it, as we don't have the details.  But again, deal one went back to the drawing board because the DOJ confirmed Hunter was not immune from anything.  Not exactly sweetheart DOJ in action...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Are they any closer to finding out why Hunter got $2B from the Saudis? 

    thats still the great mystery. give them time though. thy have a witness..

    Hopefully they're also looking into how he got all those trademarks fast tracked in China while his father was president... since we're all so very seriously concerned about presidential corruption & whatnot. 
    If laws were broken, they should be prosecuted.

    It's not being investigated at all... why not? 

    Meanwhile, "bUrIsMa"!!!
    You tell me why not? Your guy is in office and controls the DOJ. Why isn't it being investigated? You are asking me when you should be asking Democrats.

    The point is, the Hunter investigation is a crock of shit. If there was anything there they would have uncovered it by now. 

    It's not my fault you keep falling for obvious bullshit and can't or won't see it for what it is. 
    ...yet you keep bringing up the $2 billion from Saudis. What is the difference between you and I then if we're both chasing something that isnt really there? That would make you just as guilty as I am. Way to change the subject.....

    You do know every comment about Hunter getting $2B has been tongue in cheek, don't you?

    You do know it was Jared Kushner that got $2B from the Saudis, right?

    & that $2B from Saudi Arabia, plus Ivanka getting trademarks fast tracked in China while her father was in office and she worked in his administration are way bigger red flags & than anything Hunter's been tied to... you understand that, don't you? 
    Way bigger red flags? Show me the investigation and more importantly, tell me what laws were broken and when the Trumps are going to jail.

    No laws were broken by Kushner.  And no laws were broken by Hunter as it relates to doing business in Ukraine or anywhere else.  That's the point.  If he didn't pay taxes, then that's a broken law but the DOJ handled that.  

    And in neither of these scenarios were laws broken by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. 
    Hunter clearly violated FARA.

    umm sitting on the board of a company isnt in the same universe as libbying the US government on behalf of a foreign nation....

    so do tell, how was fara violated?
    There's still an ongoing investigation into the possible FARA violation(s). 

    Remember last week when the DOJ tried pushing through the unprecedented plea deal for Hunter? The judge called out how ridiculous the plea deal was because the Hunter investigation is still active. 
    See, this is why you need to stay out of right wing media.  Your assessment of what happened last week is inaccurate

    During normal questioning that happens for every deal, the judge asked each party if they understood the terms.  The Biden team believed they were receiving immunity from other charges.  The DOJ said no, that Hunter was still under investigation.  So Biden's team did not want to do the deal because they misunderstood the terms.  The judge told both parties to go back and work out a new deal.  Hunter entered a plead of "not guilty" which is just a formality.  

    The judge did question how the two deals overlapped and didn't understand the mechanics of it.  However, the judge did not quash the deal because it was too easy on Hunter.  That's completely inaccurate.   
    CNN, Right wing media..... https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/takeaways-hunter-biden-plea-hearing/index.html

    Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.

    After a break, he announced that he was accepting the Justice Department’s position that his client was still at risk of possible FARA charges, with an investigation still underway.

    Judge questions constitutionality of gun deal

    Things then appeared to be back on track and Noreika pressed forward with addressing the separate gun deal.

    She said she has “concerns about the constitutionality” of the gun deal because it might violate separation of powers principles.

    The diversion agreement – which isn’t often submitted to a judge – has a provision that says if there is a dispute over whether Hunter Biden breached the terms of the deal, it would go to the judge for fact-finding. Noreika questioned why it would “plop” her in the middle of a deal she didn’t have a say in, and potentially block the Justice Department from bringing charges, a function of the executive branch.

    The judge asked both parties to file additional legal briefs defending the constitutionality of the plea deal that addresses the firearms charges.

    So where did the judge call out that the deal was "ridiculous"?

    It's not clear in the least, how the gun deal would violate separation of powers. That statement needs to be fleshed out to opine on it, as we don't have the details.  But again, deal one went back to the drawing board because the DOJ confirmed Hunter was not immune from anything.  Not exactly sweetheart DOJ in action...
    And as already pointed out, Hunter has faced more scrutiny for his alleged crimes on both the taxes and gun charges than your average Joe. But you know, facts.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
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  • JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
    There's a big difference here. That wasn't my only comment. When you're only comment is calling someone a name or saying their in a cult, that is ONLY to make it personal. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Russia's richest woman doesn't deserve sanctions.... Yeah OK
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
  • JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
    There's a big difference here. That wasn't my only comment. When you're only comment is calling someone a name or saying their in a cult, that is ONLY to make it personal. 
    LMAO
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because the Brandon Crime Family told the DOJ and Treasury, hands off in exchange for millions of dollars. They also told the IRS they couldn’t release their taxes because they’re under audit and it’s personal information. That’s why. Everybody knows that.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Russia's richest woman doesn't deserve sanctions.... Yeah OK
    Did you not see my email about why she isn't an oligarch?  The woman lives in London, subject to British laws.  Being the richest woman of Russian origin (SHE DOESN'T LIVE IN RUSSIA) doesn't make you automatically on a sanctions list.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    Context, you know? Without a link, Halifax2TheMax just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, Halifax2TheMax just typed shit up.
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