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  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    it's got to be incredibly frustrating to be ukrainian right now, basically being told you're on your own. 
    On their own? I thought the majority of the world has rallied to their cause? US Congress is preparing a $6B aid package. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    I get that some might feel abandoned but the US can't go to war against Russia. There is a fine line there.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    it's got to be incredibly frustrating to be ukrainian right now, basically being told you're on your own. 
    On their own? I thought the majority of the world has rallied to their cause? US Congress is preparing a $6B aid package. 
    a sign or a hashtag does nothing. financial aid won't help keep the russian army from murdering civilians and destroying their infrastructure. 

    yes, they are essentially on their own at the moment. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    I get that some might feel abandoned but the US can't go to war against Russia. There is a fine line there.
    And that will be a feature, not a bug, for Russia in this onslaught. Make Ukees grow apathetic and bitter at the West's response (or lack thereof), then long-term you don't make Ukraine a part of Russia but you keep them "independent" and instill a pro-Russian regime in Kyiv.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    Just  watched  biden rally his people and flash his balls  ending  on 'go get  him"
    This ain't  no fuckin movie. 
    It's  all good and well winding putin up but what  is all this big talk gonna do to save lives. Same with our  bumbling clown leader. Big talk. 
    How  actually  is anyone going to stop the  killing. I can't  see a way right  now. All this whooping everytime biden says a word . Cringe
    You're not necessarily wrong, but most people (especially Americans) are fucking dumb and need to be talked to like life is a movie. And that is who he's talking to.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I get that some might feel abandoned but the US can't go to war against Russia. There is a fine line there.
    of course they can't. but the current sanctions aren't enough. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    it's got to be incredibly frustrating to be ukrainian right now, basically being told you're on your own. 
    On their own? I thought the majority of the world has rallied to their cause? US Congress is preparing a $6B aid package. 
    a sign or a hashtag does nothing. financial aid won't help keep the russian army from murdering civilians and destroying their infrastructure. 

    yes, they are essentially on their own at the moment. 
    Maybe say they’re on their own militarily? But I don’t think that for a moment. If you don’t think the western powers don’t have special ops on the ground assisting, then I’m not sure that you understand modern warfare and what our intelligence agencies do in times like these. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    . If you don’t think the western powers don’t have special ops on the ground assisting, then I’m not sure that you understand modern warfare and what our intelligence agencies do in times like these. 
    Lol.

    Look at Jack Ryan over here.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I think saying "essentially" and "basically" was clear enough. 

    so Putin warned that any military assistance would result in catastrophic consequences. the US would be willing to risk that?
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    edited March 2022
    Yeah, just have acknowledge this is what posturing looks like in global politics, especially when it comes to war. It's not fun for anybody!
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    . If you don’t think the western powers don’t have special ops on the ground assisting, then I’m not sure that you understand modern warfare and what our intelligence agencies do in times like these. 
    Lol.

    Look at Jack Ryan over here.
    What are the Swedes doing again? You think your intelligence agencies have boots on the ground? Do you think all diplomatic staff are there for issuing visas and ribbon cuttings?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    its 6 days in. just how fast do people think sanctions and business pulling out and have the desired effect is supposed to be?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited March 2022
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    . If you don’t think the western powers don’t have special ops on the ground assisting, then I’m not sure that you understand modern warfare and what our intelligence agencies do in times like these. 
    Lol.

    Look at Jack Ryan over here.
    What are the Swedes doing again? 
    I think many are right now waiting for the clock to strike 17, so they can leave work. 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    I think saying "essentially" and "basically" was clear enough. 

    so Putin warned that any military assistance would result in catastrophic consequences. the US would be willing to risk that?
    Yes, I’d be willing to bet that our intelligence agencies are purchasing Soviet produced arms on the world arms bizarre and are clandestinely supplying them to Ukraine. Maybe asking countries like Poland to supply them as we pay or resupply them. Plausible deniability.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,901
    Of course  they are on their own
     The children  getting  killed and the  men not allowed  to leave with the lucky ones who can get out are completely  alone. Not money or guns or sanctions  make them not alone.  They  face death and loss and never  seeing  thier  wives and kids alone.


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