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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,828
    Pap said:
    Well Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Poland are all in NATO and all east of the Baltic.  1997 was 25 years ago.  What's your point?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,373
    edited March 2022
    Seems fitting. Gifted article. Hope it works.

    Opinion: The man known as ‘Putin’s brain’ envisions the splitting of Europe — and the fall of China


    On the eve of his murderous invasion, Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a long and rambling discourse denying the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians, a speech many Western analysts found strange and untethered. Strange, yes. Untethered, no. The analysis came directly from the works of a fascist prophet of maximal Russian empire named Aleksandr Dugin.

    Dugin’s intellectual influence over the Russian leader is well known to close students of the post-Soviet period, among whom Dugin, 60, is sometimes referred to as “Putin’s brain.” His work is also familiar to Europe’s “new right,” of which Dugin has been a leading figure for nearly three decades, and to America’s “alt-right.” Indeed, the Russian-born former wife of the white nationalist leader Richard Spencer, Nina Kouprianova, has translated some of Dugin’s work into English.

    But as the world watches with horror and disgust the indiscriminate bombing of Ukraine, a broader understanding is needed of Dugin’s deadly ideas. Russia has been running his playbook for the past 20 years, and it has brought us here, to the brink of another world war.





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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,068
    I’m sure the Putin on the ritz apologists are celebrating this.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/europe/borys-romanchenko-death-ukraine-intl/index.html
    But but but they're ridding Ukraine of Nazis
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    Poncier said:
    I’m sure the Putin on the ritz apologists are celebrating this.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/europe/borys-romanchenko-death-ukraine-intl/index.html
    But but but they're ridding Ukraine of Nazis

    nazis sooo sneaky, they elected a Jewish man to be Pres.......
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Putin is vermin.  No better than a sewer rat.  It makes me ill thinking a US President kissed his ass and would side with him over our own intelligence agencies.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    MayDay10 said:
    Putin is vermin.  No better than a sewer rat.  It makes me ill thinking a US President kissed his ass and would side with him over our own intelligence agencies.
    Not just the TFG.
    There are plenty of people currently elected to public office that are siding with poo tin.
    Plenty of people not in office but working in govt, media, intelligence, etc who side with poo tin.

    These are not "good" americans
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,373
    "I don't know why it would be putin on the ritz."
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,073
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    haha my first thought too. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    are russian soldiers really turning on each other? i overheard someone saying that at the hospital today, but since i did not know them i did not ask.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,319

    Those are not escalators.  Those are vertigo activators.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    Vindman interview on Ukraine and Putin...

    gift article....


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    Warning: very graphic

    Allegedly this is video of Ukrainian soldiers shooting the kneecaps of Russian POWs. 

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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    That’s gotta hurt!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,573
    dankind said:
    That’s gotta hurt!
    What you learned while watching Arnold and Van Damme movies growing up - the kneecaps and the stomach being the most painful places to get shot. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,828
    Warning: very graphic

    Allegedly this is video of Ukrainian soldiers shooting the kneecaps of Russian POWs. 

    I don't believe it.  First,  this would be a war crime.  Second,  they blame it on NATO allies.  Who exactly is that?  Last,  this is Gefira that posted it.  They are a far right wing organization that believes there is a deliberate "replacement theory" happening in France and across Europe

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    where is the blood? surely we should see spray or pooling beginning , no?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    mrussel1 said:
    Warning: very graphic

    Allegedly this is video of Ukrainian soldiers shooting the kneecaps of Russian POWs. 

    I don't believe it.  First,  this would be a war crime.  Second,  they blame it on NATO allies.  Who exactly is that?  Last,  this is Gefira that posted it.  They are a far right wing organization that believes there is a deliberate "replacement theory" happening in France and across Europe

    Of course. Dismiss it because of the source even if it’s being posted by many sources. And hey, it could be fake. I put “allegedly” because I can’t be sure. It could be some footage from decades ago being used now as propaganda. Or it could be footage from this week of the Ukrainian army committing war crimes. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    mickeyrat said:
    where is the blood? surely we should see spray or pooling beginning , no?
    Here’s a longer version of the video where you see others that were already shot bleeding out around their knees. 


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,828
    mrussel1 said:
    Warning: very graphic

    Allegedly this is video of Ukrainian soldiers shooting the kneecaps of Russian POWs. 

    I don't believe it.  First,  this would be a war crime.  Second,  they blame it on NATO allies.  Who exactly is that?  Last,  this is Gefira that posted it.  They are a far right wing organization that believes there is a deliberate "replacement theory" happening in France and across Europe

    Of course. Dismiss it because of the source even if it’s being posted by many sources. And hey, it could be fake. I put “allegedly” because I can’t be sure. It could be some footage from decades ago being used now as propaganda. Or it could be footage from this week of the Ukrainian army committing war crimes. 
    So who is the source?  A Twitter feed is not a source. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,319
    edited March 2022
    So now we're posting torture videos here? Wow.  Really? 

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    are russian soldiers really turning on each other? i overheard someone saying that at the hospital today, but since i did not know them i did not ask.

    .I haven’t heard that, but honestly I thought it would be happening. I mean, you tell a bunch of soldiers to bomb a building that is marked “children,” I would hope some turn on each other.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    mickeyrat said:
    where is the blood? surely we should see spray or pooling beginning , no?
    Here’s a longer version of the video where you see others that were already shot bleeding out around their knees. 


    I don’t have Twitter so I couldnt see it. I wanted to see only only to judge for myself or read comments of what it could possibly be. While trying to find it I found this instead. NY post had an article saying Russian soldiers are doing it themselves to avoid fighting.
    https://nypost.com/2022/03/18/russian-troops-reportedly-shooting-themselves-in-the-legs-to-avoid-fighting/amp/

    I don’t know if either version is true.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616
    Take it with a grain of salt


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    mcgruff10 said:
    Take it with a grain of salt


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    Russian troops’ tendency to talk on unsecured lines is proving costly  https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/27/russian-military-unsecured-communications/ 

     Russian troops’ tendency to talk on unsecured lines is proving costly
    By Alex Horton and Shane Harris
    March 27 at 2:00 AM ET
    Russian troops in Ukraine have relied, with surprising frequency, on unsecured communication devices such as smartphones and push-to-talk radios, leaving units vulnerable to targeting, and further underscoring the command-and-control deficiencies that have come to define Moscow’s month-long invasion, observers say.
    “We’re seeing them use a lot more unclassified communications because their classified communications capability … for one reason or another, is not as strong as it should be,” a senior U.S. defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity under terms set by the Pentagon, told reporters in a recent news briefing.
    The Russian military possesses modern equipment capable of secure transmission, but troops on the battlefield have reached for simpler-to-use but less-secure lines because of uneven discipline across the ranks, an apparent lack of planning for conducting a sustained fight over long distances, and Russian attacks on Ukraine’s communication infrastructure that it, too, has relied on, experts say.
    [Russia behind hack of satellite communication devices in Ukraine at war’s outset, U.S. officials say]
    A European intelligence official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss NATO’s battlefield assessments, said that since the invasion began in late February, there have been multiple instances of Russian commanders confiscating their subordinates’ personal phones for fear they would unwittingly give away a unit’s location.
    Similarly, Ukrainian civilians have reported having their phones stolen by Russian troops who use them to speak with one another and with family back home, this official said. Those calls, the official noted, have revealed troops’ frustrations and declining morale as Ukraine’s military has stymied Russia’s advance around key cities, killing thousands of Russians in the process.
    [Pentagon: Russians lose full control of Kherson as Ukraine expands offensive]
    The Pentagon on Friday said that its latest intelligence showed Russian forces had lost full control of Kherson, a port city along the Black Sea, as Ukraine expands its offensive operations in key parts of the country and Russia appears to be have shifted its emphasis to the separatist Donbas region in the east. Ukrainian forces also have pushed back Russian advances outside the northern city of Chernihiv, with other offensives underway in the western suburbs of Kyiv, the capital, the senior U.S. defense official said.
    There is evidence that the United States and other NATO countries have provided Ukrainian forces with electronic warfare equipment capable of interrupting Russian transmissions and allowing them to target Russian command posts, said Kostas Tigkos, a Russian military expert at the defense analysis firm Janes Group. By destroying Russia’s communication nodes, the Ukrainians could pressure their adversaries to use less-secure equipment, he said, increasing the likelihood their conversations will be intercepted or their positions triangulated.
    [Russia begins to mobilize military reinforcements for Ukraine as casualties mount]
    While the Russian military has overhauled its military technology in the past two decades, with some emphasis on modernizing its communication hardware, Tigkos said equipment is only part of the equation. “It’s one thing,” he said, “to develop a good radio that works well. It’s another thing to deploy that radio, build a network, and conduct a complex military operation with thousands of moving parts, and have them work together like a symphony.”
    Russian military transmissions over unsecured lines have been so prevalent, analysts say, that amateur radio enthusiasts have tuned into them online using sites such as Web SDR. Some conversations have revealed troops’ frustrations. In one transmission on March 5, a Russian service member identifies himself as “Blacksmith,” rather than a call sign. “Don’t say the last names on air!” another responds. The transmission was provided to The Washington Post by Shadow Break International, an open-source intelligence consultancy based in Britain.
    In another discussion, Russian soldiers appear to confuse one another by mistaking their call signs. One identifies himself as “Exchange.” Another then says that, in fact, that’s his call sign. “You got it all mixed up!” one of them explains.

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    - We must, regardless of what we think, be able to take in such things as hybrid threats, cyber threats, consider sabotage, a military attack in some form, undermining activities, violations and disturbances in Swedish society, says the Minister of Defense in SVT's Agenda Special .


    Sunday's program dealt with, among other things, how the parliamentary parties view the issue of Swedish NATO membership.


    According to the Minister of Defense, each position must take into account the risk of various types of direct attacks on Sweden as a result of a NATO application.


    - If you do not have the strength to include it in the analysis when discussing a NATO membership, I do not think you do your job properly.


    During the spring, the government and the opposition will meet regularly to analyze the threat against Sweden. A safety analysis will be presented on 31 May.


    - The government's view is that the military freedom of alliance is firm, but now we must have this process and really value everything that is now on the table - from NATO membership to Finland, to the United States, to the cooperation agreements, to the risks. 

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  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    edited March 2022
    BBC News
    Roman Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning at talks
    Published 24 minutes ago

    Mr Abramovich is said to have been in Kyiv for talks with peace negotiators
    Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning at talks in Kyiv earlier this month, sources close to him say.

    The Chelsea FC owner - who has now recovered - reportedly suffered sore eyes and skin peeling.

    Two Ukrainian peace negotiators were also said to have been affected.

    The Wall Street Journal reported claims the alleged poisoning was orchestrated by hardliners in Russia who wanted to sabotage the talks.

    more at
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60904676
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