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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    His been in that position for over 20 years, if someone goes against him they just disappear for some reason.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    Agreed.  Wish that was feasible.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    Agreed.  Wish that was feasible.  

    Yes, and this is where the whole thing becomes incredibly difficult and complex.  In the world we live in today, how doe someone with that much power get deposed?  Is it even possible?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?
    Agreed, but please do not lump me in as a “Trump supporter”.  I am far from it.  There are very few politicians I actually “support”.  I didn’t vote for him this last election and will never again.  That doesn’t mean I will vote for Biden, but definitely not Trump.  I don’t understand how anyone could be pro-Putin…
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?
    Agreed, but please do not lump me in as a “Trump supporter”.  I am far from it.  There are very few politicians I actually “support”.  I didn’t vote for him this last election and will never again.  That doesn’t mean I will vote for Biden, but definitely not Trump.
    Fair enough.  I thought you were right of center so assumed the vote.  
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?
    Agreed, but please do not lump me in as a “Trump supporter”.  I am far from it.  There are very few politicians I actually “support”.  I didn’t vote for him this last election and will never again.  That doesn’t mean I will vote for Biden, but definitely not Trump.
    Fair enough.  I thought you were right of center so assumed the vote.  
    Don’t let it happen again ;)
    (not serious of course)
  • mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    A very stable genius.

    Putin says Ukraine’s forces should ‘take power’ from Zelensky and ‘neo-Nazis’ in Kyiv

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has called on Ukraine’s armed forces to “take power” from the democratically elected government of President Volodymyr Zelensky, underscoring Putin’s determination to drive the Ukrainian leader from office.

    Addressing his hawkish Security Council by video link on Friday, Putin claimed “neo-Nazis” in Ukraine had placed heavy weapons in residential neighborhoods in cities like Kyiv and Kharkiv, saying they were “acting like terrorists” and using women, children, wives and elderly people “as human shields.”

    He said Russia’s main fight was not against the regular armed but what he called neo-Nazi gangs.

    Putin also claimed without evidence that the United States was advising these forces to deploy heavy weapons in civilian areas.

    His aggressive tone came just hours after the Kremlin said it would send a delegation to Minsk to negotiate Ukraine’s neutrality — while making it clear that nothing less than its capitulation would suffice.

    Putin said if Ukrainian armed forces seized power, “it would be easier to come to terms with you than this gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who have settled in Kyiv and taken the entire Ukrainian people hostage.”

    This is of course a pretext but the neo-nazi problem in Ukraine is true and big..
    It's true, but I don't know how big. 
    Dated and during a time prior to Zelensky and probably part of the reason they couldn't/can't join NATO. The bigger threat to putin on the ritz is the desire for human rights, legal protections, anti-corruption efforts and democratic elections. Can't have a society of free people on your border lest the natives get restless.

    Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem | Reuters
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    I forget where, but I saw an interview of capterured Russian soldiers. They didn’t even know where they were or where there were going. I’m sure if they’d feuds to get on the train or boat or whatever they just get shot like wwii.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited February 2022
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
  • mrussel1 said:
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
    Looks like he’s on one of those scooters folks use when they’re in a boot. What a wuss to not stop and take questions. Embarrassing. Colin Powell never acted like that.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
    Looks like he’s on one of those scooters folks use when they’re in a boot. What a wuss to not stop and take questions. Embarrassing. Colin Powell never acted like that.
    Is it embarrassing when Biden doesn't stop to take questions?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Western powers have realised Russia is largely immune to sanctions


    Analysis: Only the financial equivalent of unleashing a nuclear arsenal will dent Russia’s foreign assets war chest


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/western-powers-have-realised-russia-is-largely-immune-to-sanctions-ukraine-putin
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    mrussel1 said:
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
    Maybe it has to do with his enormous weight loss this past year? Or maybe it's just to scoot away faster to avoid talking about his praise of Putin....
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,529
    edited February 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?

    Might be completely wrong but:

    Historically:
    Sweden decided way back to keep themselves as a country neutral and alliance free. I think it comes from some King declaring that in a doctrine after Russia backstabbed our allience and took Finland from us. In the 1900s. And that has been a virtue. 200+ years of not being in a war. It's a tradition rooted in Sweden to stay neutral.

    Post WW2:
    Sweden had survived the war and the country was kept intact by being officially neutral. We came out on the other side without a country in ruin and fear of further wars. There was not seen to be any need to be a part of a military alliance.

    Current:
    There is no majority in our country to join NATO. But it has always been a topic of discussion here. The right wing has always wanted to join, the left cherish our tradition of neutrality. Sweden has more often than not been govern by the Social Democrats who have been opposed to the idea, and so has the general population. But people have become more positive to being a member of NATO over time. I think in recent surveys, the split is 50/50. 

    So, I don't think a membership down the line after the right wing can muster up a majority is out of the question. The right wing is taking support from a racist party that are against NATO and can't decide who is worse of Putin and Joe Biden... so... who knows...




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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?

    Might be completely wrong but:

    Historically:
    Sweden decided way back to keep themselves as a country neutral and alliance free. I think it comes from some King declaring that in a doctrine after Russia backstabbed our allience and took Finland from us. In the 1900s. And that has been a virtue. 200+ years of not being in a war. It's a tradition rooted in Sweden to stay neutral.

    Post WW2:
    Sweden had survived the war and the country was kept intact by being officially neutral. We came out on the other side without a country in ruin and fear of further wars. There was not seen to be any need to be a part of a military alliance.

    Current:
    There is no majority in our country to join NATO. But it has always been a topic of discussion here. The right wing has always wanted to join, the left cherish our tradition of neutrality. Sweden has more often than not been govern by the Social Democrats who have been opposed to the idea, and so has the general population. But people have become more positive to being a member of NATO over time. I think in recent surveys, the split is 50/50. 

    So, I don't think a membership down the line after the right wing can muster up a majority is out of the question. The right wing is taking support from a racist party that are against NATO and can't decide who is worse of Putin and Joe Biden... so... who knows...




    Thanks.  Check out that Putin is threatening Sweden and Finland.  I would be interested in if that encourages people to stay out of Nato, or rush to join.  Sounds like for the Fins, it's moving them closer to NATO. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?

    Might be completely wrong but:

    Historically:
    Sweden decided way back to keep themselves as a country neutral and alliance free. I think it comes from some King declaring that in a doctrine after Russia backstabbed our allience and took Finland from us. In the 1900s. And that has been a virtue. 200+ years of not being in a war. It's a tradition rooted in Sweden to stay neutral.

    Post WW2:
    Sweden had survived the war and the country was kept intact by being officially neutral. We came out on the other side without a country in ruin and fear of further wars. There was not seen to be any need to be a part of a military alliance.

    Current:
    There is no majority in our country to join NATO. But it has always been a topic of discussion here. The right wing has always wanted to join, the left cherish our tradition of neutrality. Sweden has more often than not been govern by the Social Democrats who have been opposed to the idea, and so has the general population. But people have become more positive to being a member of NATO over time. I think in recent surveys, the split is 50/50. 

    So, I don't think a membership down the line after the right wing can muster up a majority is out of the question. The right wing is taking support from a racist party that are against NATO and can't decide who is worse of Putin and Joe Biden... so... who knows...




    Thanks.  Check out that Putin is threatening Sweden and Finland.  I would be interested in if that encourages people to stay out of Nato, or rush to join.  Sounds like for the Fins, it's moving them closer to NATO. 
    I'd be terrified to live in a country that is moving itself closer to the brink of annihilation by a fucking insane person with a nuclear arsenal. 
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  • JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
    Looks like he’s on one of those scooters folks use when they’re in a boot. What a wuss to not stop and take questions. Embarrassing. Colin Powell never acted like that.
    Is it embarrassing when Biden doesn't stop to take questions?
    no. only when George Clooney won't answer me shouting from beyond the fence of the red carpet. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,529
    edited February 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Annafalk said:
    It’s Putin acting like Hitler, Zelensky actually has Jewish heritage.
    I doubt Russians even want this war at all.

    Then they should try and overthrow him instead of being his war puppets.
    Overthrow who?
    Putin.  It is encouraging seeing the protests in Russia, but that piece of shit needs to be in the bottom of a river.
    It is also encouraging, to me, that some of our friends here who we know are Trump supporters are standing firmly with Ukraine.  Thank you.  That tells me that the pro-Putin strain that infects some part of the country isn't widespread.

    @Spiritual_Chaos - can you tell me why Sweden never entered NATO?

    Might be completely wrong but:

    Historically:
    Sweden decided way back to keep themselves as a country neutral and alliance free. I think it comes from some King declaring that in a doctrine after Russia backstabbed our allience and took Finland from us. In the 1900s. And that has been a virtue. 200+ years of not being in a war. It's a tradition rooted in Sweden to stay neutral.

    Post WW2:
    Sweden had survived the war and the country was kept intact by being officially neutral. We came out on the other side without a country in ruin and fear of further wars. There was not seen to be any need to be a part of a military alliance.

    Current:
    There is no majority in our country to join NATO. But it has always been a topic of discussion here. The right wing has always wanted to join, the left cherish our tradition of neutrality. Sweden has more often than not been govern by the Social Democrats who have been opposed to the idea, and so has the general population. But people have become more positive to being a member of NATO over time. I think in recent surveys, the split is 50/50. 

    So, I don't think a membership down the line after the right wing can muster up a majority is out of the question. The right wing is taking support from a racist party that are against NATO and can't decide who is worse of Putin and Joe Biden... so... who knows...




    Thanks.  Check out that Putin is threatening Sweden and Finland.  I would be interested in if that encourages people to stay out of Nato, or rush to join.  Sounds like for the Fins, it's moving them closer to NATO. 
    Not the first time Russia is threatening Finland/Sweden over that.

    Who knows, but I don't think Putin would go into countries being part of the EU. NATO or not.

    He does want our island of Gotland though, to rule the baltic sea. 

    Fun fact: Chruchill drew up plans to invade Sweden during WW2. If I remember correctly.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Saw a subreddit that #anonymous hacked and leaked the Russian Ministry of Defense database (email addys, passwords, etc).  If true…go hackers!  
  • JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Former Trump Sec of State apparently under the assumption Russia is currently a communist regime


    Did you watch the video? Is he on a scooter?
    Looks like he’s on one of those scooters folks use when they’re in a boot. What a wuss to not stop and take questions. Embarrassing. Colin Powell never acted like that.
    Is it embarrassing when Biden doesn't stop to take questions?
    As POTUS, no. As a private, former POTUS, it would be.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    Saw a subreddit that #anonymous hacked and leaked the Russian Ministry of Defense database (email addys, passwords, etc).  If true…go hackers!  

    Saw that Pornhub was blocking russian IP-adresses showing them a Ukrain flag instead. Not sure if that is true though.

    Eurovision Song Contest has banned Russia from the contest. Changed tune from yesterday when they said they would not. Maybe Finland made them change their mind:

    Finland's public broadcaster Yle says it will boycott this year's Eurovision Song Contest in Milan if Russia is allowed to take part.
    While other Nordic nations like Sweden, Norway and Denmark, along with Netherlands and Ukraine, have called for Russia to be excluded from this year's contest, it is believed the Finns are the first country to publicly state that they'll pull out if their demands are not met.

    That makes me feel some:

    https://youtu.be/Pfo-8z86x80


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