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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Why do some people only show up here when shit is happening to innocent people?  Quite the disincentive to want to be here for long.
    Later, gators!
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  • brianlux said:
    Why do some people only show up here when shit is happening to innocent people?  Quite the disincentive to want to be here for long.
    Later, gators!
    they do that with the sole purpose of getting threads locked.
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  • BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Oh my god, they're not kidding. They actually think it's fake news. 
    Not that I don’t think they would play something like that. But that doesn’t even look like TV screenshot to me. Looks like a website. So just saying looks odd that a picture of Russia TV looks like a website all in English. But I know nothing about RT, so maybe that’s normal. I don’t know.
    Should be nothing wrong with asking a question. That’s how we learn. Don’t need to chastise anyone for it.
    That is a website.  Go to the site.  You’ll see what it’s about.  It is called Russia Today and is owned and operated by the Russian govt.  I’m surprised you’ve never run across them before.  

    So if you knows this (like I know this) why would you link to them asking me how I feel about what they are posting? It is a propaganda site. Why would you, me, or anyone fucking care! Literal Fake Fucking News.
    I’m asking how you feel about a man that you have defended, saying thingS that are clearly pro Russian and seamlessly turned into propaganda.  I’m not asking your opinion of RT. 
    You are being disingenuous and you know it. Putin has played you, the people you support, and the institutions you idolize like a fiddle. Is he a genius? I don’t know. Is he smart? You’re goddamn fucking right he is! That isn’t being pro-Russian! That is recognizing that Putin read the rest of you morons and has planned accordingly! Trump is calling you out and it’s just killing you. Do I care that a propaganda dish rag is making fun of you too? Hell fucking no. The 80’s called…

    Are you insane? Trump is a former president.  He represents our country and its ideals.  He's not there to do color commentary like it's a fucking football game.  That is giving aid and comfort.  You've lost your way when you defend people like him and Tucker who are doing their best impersonation of Father Coughlin. And if you don't know who that is,  look him up. 
    Right. All former Presidents were very respectful of Trump when he was in office. How dare he not uphold that tradition. Now who is insane. Look… admitting you were wrong for the last 6-10 years is hard. I get it. You don’t want to hear anyone call you out. Especially Trump! Unfortunately things are too dire to worry about your feelings and speaking the truth is a must. Putin is rolling over Biden and your blessed institutions. We have to admit it to have any chance of preventing further atrocities. To save Ukraine: To keep China at bay. To keep Iran from going nuclear. I pray you’re right that the Ukrainian’s are able to stop Putin in his tracks but I do not hold out hope. We would still rather fight amongst ourselves.
    This isn't about team Biden,  it's about the United States.  Every R senator (other than that traitor Hawley) is hammering Putin. But not Trump.  He's praising Putins moves.  I know you're not that obtuse.  You know this isn't normal. Is Bush praising Putin? No,  he released a statement that stands firmly with the US.  You've lost your moral compass if you think praising Putin is justifiable for an American leader. 

    There you go again…
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    What's your point? I'm not watching videos 
    You’re all about words when it’s all about energy.
    And it’s not 1940 anymore. From my google news feed. Total game changer. Buh, buh, buh western rot.

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  • i don't know why you guys are even engaging at this point. seriously.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux said:
    Why do some people only show up here when shit is happening to innocent people?  Quite the disincentive to want to be here for long.
    Later, gators!
    he just shows up to rattle the cage, tell everyone how stupid they are, how superior he is and how many steps ahead he is (that one was I think in post 3 or so today), how all conservatives and world leaders we hate have all duped us all, without giving any real specifics (gee, where have we seen that before?), and in a week he'll be gone for another six months. who cares. it's the same old fucking story every time. it's a waste of time. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    brianlux said:
    Why do some people only show up here when shit is happening to innocent people?  Quite the disincentive to want to be here for long.
    Later, gators!
    they do that with the sole purpose of getting threads locked.

    Exactly.
    brianlux said:
    Why do some people only show up here when shit is happening to innocent people?  Quite the disincentive to want to be here for long.
    Later, gators!
    he just shows up to rattle the cage, tell everyone how stupid they are, how superior he is and how many steps ahead he is (that one was I think in post 3 or so today), how all conservatives and world leaders we hate have all duped us all, without giving any real specifics (gee, where have we seen that before?), and in a week he'll be gone for another six months. who cares. it's the same old fucking story every time. it's a waste of time. 

    Yes, better to ignore than to run around in that circular room looking for a corner to piss in.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    I stopped ages ago.  Can't reason with the GQP when facts don't matter.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Smellyman said:
    I stopped ages ago.  Can't reason with the GQP when facts don't matter.

    Yes!
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  • Smellyman said:
    I stopped ages ago.  Can't reason with the GQP when facts don't matter.
    Some are firm believers in alternative realities and the neocon way of just recreating a new one when the opposition has figured out the current one. And for that to be possible, ignorance of facts is a must. 
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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,676
    This is the world castanet news I found pertaining to Chernobyl


  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    tish said:
    This is the world castanet news I found pertaining to Chernobyl



    It feels like we have reaches another apex in insanity.  The last time I felt this uncertain about the well being of the world as a whole was in October of 1962.  Fucking hell, here we are again.  :frowning:
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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229 said:
    Whats RT? Russian Television? Why would I watch that?
    Dennis Miller has a talkshow on it
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,258
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,258
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,258
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,258
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,258
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • basically, in the world today, if anybody uses nukes, it is suicide as they will receive nukes from other countries almost immediately.
    I believe, in the world today that it is not as binary as this.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,503
    So what is President Biden's course of action?  Are we good with economic sanctions? 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,446
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Oh my god, they're not kidding. They actually think it's fake news. 
    Not that I don’t think they would play something like that. But that doesn’t even look like TV screenshot to me. Looks like a website. So just saying looks odd that a picture of Russia TV looks like a website all in English. But I know nothing about RT, so maybe that’s normal. I don’t know.
    Should be nothing wrong with asking a question. That’s how we learn. Don’t need to chastise anyone for it.
    That is a website.  Go to the site.  You’ll see what it’s about.  It is called Russia Today and is owned and operated by the Russian govt.  I’m surprised you’ve never run across them before.  

    So if you knows this (like I know this) why would you link to them asking me how I feel about what they are posting? It is a propaganda site. Why would you, me, or anyone fucking care! Literal Fake Fucking News.
    I’m asking how you feel about a man that you have defended, saying thingS that are clearly pro Russian and seamlessly turned into propaganda.  I’m not asking your opinion of RT. 
    You are being disingenuous and you know it. Putin has played you, the people you support, and the institutions you idolize like a fiddle. Is he a genius? I don’t know. Is he smart? You’re goddamn fucking right he is! That isn’t being pro-Russian! That is recognizing that Putin read the rest of you morons and has planned accordingly! Trump is calling you out and it’s just killing you. Do I care that a propaganda dish rag is making fun of you too? Hell fucking no. The 80’s called…

    In the 80's the republicans cared more about America than Russia.  I wish the 80's would call.  It's an embarrassment.  You are right about 2 things:
    1) Putin is smart 
    2) Putin did play some like a fiddle....but it's not who you are suggesting.  

    It is those in the US government and US population that now defend a tyrant.  It is those that knew Putin attacked our democracy through our election in 2016 and did nothing about it.  

    It would be nice if people could admit they were wrong and move forward against our common enemy...but it's more important to lie and do what you think wins elections....even when you do nothing with it.
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  • BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Oh my god, they're not kidding. They actually think it's fake news. 
    Not that I don’t think they would play something like that. But that doesn’t even look like TV screenshot to me. Looks like a website. So just saying looks odd that a picture of Russia TV looks like a website all in English. But I know nothing about RT, so maybe that’s normal. I don’t know.
    Should be nothing wrong with asking a question. That’s how we learn. Don’t need to chastise anyone for it.
    That is a website.  Go to the site.  You’ll see what it’s about.  It is called Russia Today and is owned and operated by the Russian govt.  I’m surprised you’ve never run across them before.  

    So if you knows this (like I know this) why would you link to them asking me how I feel about what they are posting? It is a propaganda site. Why would you, me, or anyone fucking care! Literal Fake Fucking News.
    I’m asking how you feel about a man that you have defended, saying thingS that are clearly pro Russian and seamlessly turned into propaganda.  I’m not asking your opinion of RT. 
    You are being disingenuous and you know it. Putin has played you, the people you support, and the institutions you idolize like a fiddle. Is he a genius? I don’t know. Is he smart? You’re goddamn fucking right he is! That isn’t being pro-Russian! That is recognizing that Putin read the rest of you morons and has planned accordingly! Trump is calling you out and it’s just killing you. Do I care that a propaganda dish rag is making fun of you too? Hell fucking no. The 80’s called…

    In the 80's the republicans cared more about America than Russia.  I wish the 80's would call.  It's an embarrassment.  You are right about 2 things:
    1) Putin is smart 
    2) Putin did play some like a fiddle....but it's not who you are suggesting.  

    It is those in the US government and US population that now defend a tyrant.  It is those that knew Putin attacked our democracy through our election in 2016 and did nothing about it.  

    It would be nice if people could admit they were wrong and move forward against our common enemy...but it's more important to lie and do what you think wins elections....even when you do nothing with it.
    Well said. 


  • I doubt anyone in the Swedish government, when offering aid wanted to be painted in propaganda as being part of "building an anti-putin coalition".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    mcgruff10 said:
    So what is President Biden's course of action?  Are we good with economic sanctions? 
    It's hard to do much else without putting boots on the ground.  And there is no appetite for that in this country, left or right. So it looks like the strategy will be to strangle them economically.  You're looking at a few years here.  

  • basically, in the world today, if anybody uses nukes, it is suicide as they will receive nukes from other countries almost immediately.
    I believe, in the world today that it is not as binary as this.
    well, i heard this from malcolm nance. try to tell him that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Oh my god, they're not kidding. They actually think it's fake news. 
    Not that I don’t think they would play something like that. But that doesn’t even look like TV screenshot to me. Looks like a website. So just saying looks odd that a picture of Russia TV looks like a website all in English. But I know nothing about RT, so maybe that’s normal. I don’t know.
    Should be nothing wrong with asking a question. That’s how we learn. Don’t need to chastise anyone for it.
    That is a website.  Go to the site.  You’ll see what it’s about.  It is called Russia Today and is owned and operated by the Russian govt.  I’m surprised you’ve never run across them before.  

    So if you knows this (like I know this) why would you link to them asking me how I feel about what they are posting? It is a propaganda site. Why would you, me, or anyone fucking care! Literal Fake Fucking News.
    I’m asking how you feel about a man that you have defended, saying thingS that are clearly pro Russian and seamlessly turned into propaganda.  I’m not asking your opinion of RT. 
    You are being disingenuous and you know it. Putin has played you, the people you support, and the institutions you idolize like a fiddle. Is he a genius? I don’t know. Is he smart? You’re goddamn fucking right he is! That isn’t being pro-Russian! That is recognizing that Putin read the rest of you morons and has planned accordingly! Trump is calling you out and it’s just killing you. Do I care that a propaganda dish rag is making fun of you too? Hell fucking no. The 80’s called…

    In the 80's the republicans cared more about America than Russia.  I wish the 80's would call.  It's an embarrassment.  You are right about 2 things:
    1) Putin is smart 
    2) Putin did play some like a fiddle....but it's not who you are suggesting.  

    It is those in the US government and US population that now defend a tyrant.  It is those that knew Putin attacked our democracy through our election in 2016 and did nothing about it.  

    It would be nice if people could admit they were wrong and move forward against our common enemy...but it's more important to lie and do what you think wins elections....even when you do nothing with it.
    100%

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  • Former boxing champ and current mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko taking up arms… 



    President Volodymyr Zelensky joining in the fight as well…


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  • Former boxing champ and current mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko taking up arms… 



    President Volodymyr Zelensky joining in the fight as well…


    that is badass. it seems weird to see that and know that the mayor of dc and the potus would never do that.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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