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Should the news be reporting this before the president makes a decision? Kind of takes away the element of surprise.Spiritual_Chaos said:Scio me nihil scire
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I'd say it's hard to not have anything leak anymore. Plus, my personal view on all this is I think being the ought most deliberate in every action taken is a good thing.static111 said:
Should the news be reporting this before the president makes a decision? Kind of takes away the element of surprise.Spiritual_Chaos said:0 -
Isn't cyberattacks an act of war?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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I'd say Putin will perceive any slight of any type of encroachment as an act of war and/or an excuse to escalate.Spiritual_Chaos said:Isn't cyberattacks an act of war?0 -
For some reason giving Ukraine military aid and deadly weapons is "accepted"...Jearlpam0925 said:
I'd say Putin will perceive any slight of any type of encroachment as an act of war and/or an excuse to escalate.Spiritual_Chaos said:Isn't cyberattacks an act of war?
"war" is weird.
Biden speaks in 35 min."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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Looks like they've been arrested nowMayDay10 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
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Maybe if we hadn’t been in Iraq and had vacated Afghanistan after killing Osama, we could have had the stomach for dealing with Crimea in a more forceful way? Shit doesn’t happen in a vacuum.static111 said:Not everyday somebody gets a good savage burn on Barry O09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. It was the UN peacekeeping forces that did nothing in Bosnia. Once Albright and Holbrooke forced the withdrawal of the UN forces in 95, it was replaced by a substantial NATO bombing campaign that reversed Pale Serb territory gains and forced them to the table for the Dayton Accords. NATOs bombing was absolutely crucial to ending the Serb genocide of the Muslims.23scidoo said:
When NATO really did something for anyone??..can we forget Serbia or Cyprus??..mrussel1 said:0 -
Their troops are technically peacekeeping.mace1229 said:
But doesn’t the UN send in troops? I remember many of the American troops in the Middle East wearing UN uniforms.mrussel1 said:
NATO is a military alliance formed as a bulwark to the USSR. It has its own army. The UN is a diplomatic body, the successor to the failed League of Nations that the US refused to join (even though it was Wilson's baby).mace1229 said:I do t understand all the intricacies of NATO. I don’t really even understand the point since the UN was made just a few years before.I wouldnt think there’s anything preventing other countries from stepping in on their own, without the backing of NATO. But probably wanting to stay out of it in terms of feet on the ground until they are forced to. And that would be when one of the main members gets invaded. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Estonia gets invaded most of Europe thinks it’s not worth a war with Russia and not follow through.
Ive been to Estonia twice, spent about 2 weeks each time. A really neat place with nice people and interesting history. It’s about 40% Russian because when Russia occupied it they just sent tons of people there. Apparently people would get a knock on their door in the middle of the night, told to board a train to Siberia, and gave their house to some Russians. Then 30 years later when the USSR fell, a lot came back trying to get their house and was a big mess. Really wouldn’t be surprised if Ukraine is successful for Putin that countries like that would be next. And one fear Estonians had when I was there was they are too small for the rest of Europe to really care about if/when Russia ever invaded.
I gues NATO was targeted against the USSR and UN was just overall peace, but still seems a little redundant. Both are made of of its members, and any soldiers sent would be soldiers from individual countries.0 -
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Glad to see Luke got his hand back.tbergs said:0 -
My company just sent out an email telling us to be vigilant because there's a heightened risk of a Russian cyber attack right now
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I don't understand why anyone in the U.S. or the U.K. has a problem with Russia entering Ukraine. all the rhetoric about going against the UN or breaking international law is exactly what the UK and US did when they invaded Iraq and killed a million citizens.
Maybe all Putin needs to do is say he thinks Ukraine has 'weapons of mass destruction'. Given that Iraq is thousands of miles from the US and UK and posed no threat AT ALL maybe Ukraine being on Russia's border its more justified.
As a nation every person within the UK or US can just hush, your opinions hold no sway. the US and UK governments should be totally ashamed of all the crap they're spouting given their own fairly recent excursions in the middle east. Iraq, Syria, bullying Iran, drone strikes everywhere murdering civilians all the time, training, funding and weaponizing the taliban, isis, etc. its as if they don't know what hypocrisy is.
As for the sanctions Russia stopped using the US dollar as a reserve currency last year and are pretty self sufficient due to all the previous sanctions imposed on them. And then there's the donations the tory party receive from Russian oligarchs. best stop all that too i suppose!
oh and the oil, Just who are the biggest importers of oil to the US, lets see, 1st place Canada followed closely by 2nd place (you guessed it) Russia.
maybe of course they could all just stop their cock waving because no one gives a fk about small men with big egos.0 -
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