Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
I think our administration/intelligence played this one as well as they could have played it. They loudly and accurately called out every Russian move and bullshit before it happened. Were proven right every time. As a result, Putin's attempt at PR and any chance of any flimsy justification of this has been shot to shit.
I would rather we have influence to stop a war rather than to predict one. We don’t have influence anymore.
We rallied our allies. You think that was easy? The West is united. The entire EU is there, along with the whole of the UN except China and Russia. We didn't have enough influence to stop Milosovic in the 90's, Putin in 2007 and 2014 and not today. The point is, there's no such thing as enough influence to stop a war that someone is committed to having.
I tend to agree. A week or two ago people were talking about possible sanctions on Russia. Yeah....sanctions. I think a country that has made up their mind to go to war has also made up their mind to not give a shit about sanctions.
I think our administration/intelligence played this one as well as they could have played it. They loudly and accurately called out every Russian move and bullshit before it happened. Were proven right every time. As a result, Putin's attempt at PR and any chance of any flimsy justification of this has been shot to shit.
I would rather we have influence to stop a war rather than to predict one. We don’t have influence anymore.
We rallied our allies. You think that was easy? The West is united. The entire EU is there, along with the whole of the UN except China and Russia. We didn't have enough influence to stop Milosovic in the 90's, Putin in 2007 and 2014 and not today. The point is, there's no such thing as enough influence to stop a war that someone is committed to having.
we repaired most of our relationships AND rallied those countries.....
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Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
ah so you ARE a Qtrumpublican! I knew it all along ever since that last thing you said several months ago and just brought up this morning again. And here I was believing you weren't a Qtrumpublican! I won't make that mistake again.
Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
What? Where did I say he was part of a conspiracy? I'm just saying through Trumps words and actions it's ridiculous to think this could not have happened and been easier to do during the Trump admin....and him doing all the things I mentioned made it easier for Putin to do what he is doing today.
Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
China and Russia are the biggest problems the world faces. I have said it over and over and over. The left wonders why we spend so much on military. It is because these other countries are and when the time comes have no interest in playing nice.
The US is getting weaker and weaker.
Well how did we do when Trumpolinni was in charge wasn’t he the one to give the car keys to Putin in regards to Ukraine? Remember Helsinki who looked weak then?
Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
What? Where did I say he was part of a conspiracy? I'm just saying through Trumps words and actions it's ridiculous to think this could not have happened and been easier to do during the Trump admin....and him doing all the things I mentioned made it easier for Putin to do what he is doing today.
Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
k, this went from gern to jose to mace, all of which were discussing the possibility that trump had an active role in this, (or at the very least putin was doing this to get trump back in the WH) and then you responded. so I took that to mean you agreed with gern and jose.
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China and Russia are the biggest problems the world faces. I have said it over and over and over. The left wonders why we spend so much on military. It is because these other countries are and when the time comes have no interest in playing nice.
The US is getting weaker and weaker.
Well how did we do when Trumpolinni was in charge wasn’t he the one to give the car keys to Putin in regards to Ukraine? Remember Helsinki who looked weak then?
Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
What? Where did I say he was part of a conspiracy? I'm just saying through Trumps words and actions it's ridiculous to think this could not have happened and been easier to do during the Trump admin....and him doing all the things I mentioned made it easier for Putin to do what he is doing today.
Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
k, this went from gern to jose to mace, all of which were discussing the possibility that trump had an active role in this, (or at the very least putin was doing this to get trump back in the WH) and then you responded. so I took that to mean you agreed with gern and jose.
Do you really believe trump hasn’t talked to Putin about this very thing happening today? There’s no way they haven’t.
Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
What? Where did I say he was part of a conspiracy? I'm just saying through Trumps words and actions it's ridiculous to think this could not have happened and been easier to do during the Trump admin....and him doing all the things I mentioned made it easier for Putin to do what he is doing today.
Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
k, this went from gern to jose to mace, all of which were discussing the possibility that trump had an active role in this, (or at the very least putin was doing this to get trump back in the WH) and then you responded. so I took that to mean you agreed with gern and jose.
Do you really believe trump hasn’t talked to Putin about this very thing happening today? There’s no way they haven’t.
Putin wouldn't trust Trump with any info whatsover. All he gets is lies and flattery. And threats if they do have shit on Trump.
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Ridiculous to blame Biden for Putin's bullshit. If anything Putin is doing this to hurt Biden in hopes that puppetboy will get back in office.
That’s also equally ridiculous. Purim’s actions aren’t Biden’s fault. And this isn’t a ploy to get Trump back. He’s power hungry and crazy.
You can’t be certain of that! We don’t know how many talks Trumpolinni has had with Putin we just don’t know! Knowing all you know about our idiot ex-president would you put it past him? To do something as crazy as that?
Of course we can’t be certain on hypotheticals. Just like I’m not certain if Trump was in office Putin would still invade. But I believe that to be true. No one can b certain of that either.
And to suggest Trump has been planning this with Putin seems even crazier than before. For one, Biden’s polls are so low why would be do this now, even if he was up for it? Thats as crazy as any Qanon theory I’ve heard.
Did Putin help elect Trump? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea? Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election? Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn? Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago? Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
trump being a fucking idiot and cozying up to someone who has total power over his people, something trump admires, is far from him being part of a conspiracy to allow putin to take over another country.
a useful idiot? entirely possible. a conspiracy? not likely.
What? Where did I say he was part of a conspiracy? I'm just saying through Trumps words and actions it's ridiculous to think this could not have happened and been easier to do during the Trump admin....and him doing all the things I mentioned made it easier for Putin to do what he is doing today.
Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
k, this went from gern to jose to mace, all of which were discussing the possibility that trump had an active role in this, (or at the very least putin was doing this to get trump back in the WH) and then you responded. so I took that to mean you agreed with gern and jose.
Do you really believe trump hasn’t talked to Putin about this very thing happening today? There’s no way they haven’t.
you mean recently or when he was president? cuz trump recently said "I always knew putin wanted ukraine", so yeah, of course that conversation has occurred. but I don't think trump was actively encouraging him or advising him how to do so.
Hey, so you guys wanna talk about Trump take it to the appropriate spot. Also, if you cannot comprehend that Trump being in office, instead of Biden, would be a benefit to Putin then I don't know what to tell you.
I think it's time to turn talk here to the title of the thread. This is fucking depressing.
I think our administration/intelligence played this one as well as they could have played it. They loudly and accurately called out every Russian move and bullshit before it happened. Were proven right every time. As a result, Putin's attempt at PR and any chance of any flimsy justification of this has been shot to shit.
I would rather we have influence to stop a war rather than to predict one. We don’t have influence anymore.
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Did Putin help elect Trump?
Did Trump take Putin's side regarding Crimea?
Did Trump take Putin's side regarding interfering in our election?
Did Trump do whatever he could to weaken NATO at every turn?
Did Trump want to invite Russia back into the G7 as recently as 2 years ago?
Did Trump call Putin's absurd reasoning for invading Ukraine "genius"?
The answer is yes to all of the above but if you answered yes for even any of these questions, you'd see how your "hypothetical" scenario is yet another disingenuous argument on your behalf. If anything, it likely would've been easier for Putin to invade with Trump in office as Trump saw him as an ally instead of an adversary. And it makes even more sense for Putin to have Trump weaken NATO and divide the US further for four years. Putin was always going to invade Ukraine.
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.
What these people have never been able to cope with is the idea that that was the lie all along.
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Useful idiot--entirely possible? I would say it's an absolute certainty after everything we've learned the last six years.
Doesn't look like an airbase or a military asset in the video above....
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I think it's time to turn talk here to the title of the thread. This is fucking depressing.
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I don't think anyone is denying putin benefits from trump being in office. I just don't think he'd go to war to accomplish that.
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surely we can maintain a no fly zone, cant we?
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