Pearl Jam's new album ”Dark Matter” ! Single out!

lastexitlondon

tbergs said:

BF25394 said:

lastexitlondon said:

To me? I think just breathe sounds like a country and Western song and I think lyrics are more my kind of lyrics on off he goes. 

Funny, I think "Off He Goes" totally has a country-and-western feel.

Yeah, I think that every time. Along with Around the Bend. I love them both though. 

You could and thin air but I love thin air. Just breathe I do not. 

lastexitlondon

Gigaton has lockdown feelings to me and in a way that's what I feel when I put it on in the car. As I used to drive around finding food shopping for family members at that time with it on a loop.

Spiritual_Chaos

kmcmanus said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

kmcmanus said:

wnh1977 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Folks still pining for 1992 Pearl Jam. 

Ha!  Yeah, Pearl Jam fans are a funny bunch.  30+ years in, 11 albums... I'm thankful they haven't taken the AC/DC approach and become predictable.  I know not everybody is on board with Gigaton, but what I really enjoyed about that album is that it was different!  It didn't sound like the Brendan O'Brien-produced Backspacer / Lightning Bolt (I liked these two albums, thought they were well-produced, but they had a similar feel for me).  I thought Gigaton was very well produced and had a lot of moments unique to PJ on there.  

One thing about Gigaton, love it or hate it, they did things on that record they had never done before. Not every band does that after 30 years, I respect  the heck out of that.

What did they do? Base a song off a synth?

That’s pretty reductive isn’t it? Yeah they based a song off a synth, where the bassist plays the synth & the guitarist plays bass. And it ends with a 3 part vocal round. Alright is based off a kalimba, have they done that often? How many of their older songs sound like Buckle Up? Or Retrograde? Take the Long Way is their first studio track in 30+ years to have a female backing vocal. Who Ever Said, Seven O’Clock & Comes Then Goes are much denser lyrically than EV’s usual style. You may not like any of these choices, but to act like it wasn’t unique in their catalog? Really?  Hell, all these new elements are most of the reason the people who don’t like it don’t like it.

If the argument is "they used a female backing vocal", then many songs in their discography have "things they had never done before".

Not saying Gigaton didn't feel "creative".

lastexitlondon

When I think about it there re no album I dislike. Only a few songs so I'm happy to hear anything they feel is where they are NOW.  The past is gone. And we have the luxury of choice if we revisit any or all.
The sound mike is talking about I want to hear so that's a plus

Spiritual_Chaos

Vedd Hedd said:

I am pretty excited about Andrew Watt, to be honest.  Not saying I like all the songs on Earthlings, but I like a lot of them.  I would love to see what he could do with the full band, getting everyones "sound" on there.  

Whatever, just give me new music. 

What I did like about Earthlings, is that every song got its' own thought out production and identity and time and focus given. There are a lot of cool production (I feel) on that album and it sounds like they had creative and ideas in the studio. I also think most of the songs are quite good.

But the other side of that coin is that it feels like a compilation album, it doesn't have one identity. I like my albums having one mood/identity all through. Compare the shattered nature of all those different sounding songs to e.g. eh... hmm.... Neil Youngs Harvest Moon, or Guns N Roses Appetite for Destruction or Eddie Vedder Into the Wild where it feels like you are listening to one thought out piece and a producer with an overarching idea of what that very album is. 

I feel like that is the problem with the "newer" PJ albums too. It feels like five different people coming in with five different ideas of songs and they do them in whatever way they are done to fill up 10-12 songs. Doesn't feel like the songs are being brought up and nurtured and gone through a producers/or bands filter of "this is what this album is and sounds like". But I guess that just isn't part of the bands MO, and never was. 

lastexitlondon

I agree with that above about the mis mash of just songs thrown together.  No smooth run of songs

ceska

BF25394 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm stoked we're getting a new record a "mere" 4 years after the last one. 

I know. Since 2013, Pearl Jam has released one album (and Ed has released one solo album). Meanwhile, Wilco is about to release their fifth studio album in that span, one of which is a double album. On top of that, in that span, Jeff Tweedy has released four solo albums, three consisting of original material, plus another double album that's not technically a solo album but for which he wrote all the songs. And he's written three books. And they tour all the time, whether it be Tweedy solo or the whole band. These are my two favorite bands, whom I've seen hundreds of times, and their approaches are so different.

Tweedy is prolific but, as a long time fan of both bands as well, I'll take PJ's quality over Wilco's quantity. Not much of Tweedy/Wilco's recent output has interested me. Star Wars was the last record that really grabbed my ongoing attention. I've relegated his solo albums from my rotation to my archive. Cruel Country has a nice sound - much better than Ode to Joy, but still not knock-my-socks-off. I might feel better about it without some of the dead weight of the 21 songs. I am not jazzed up at all for Cousin. Maybe I'll be surprised. 
I really liked Earthlings. Even though some of the middle-late songs on there are not my taste, I like the overall vibe, and the good songs are really good and really enjoyable. Invincible, Brother the Cloud, and The Dark, would be great on a PJ album and in concert. That's got me feeling good about the next PJ record, maybe moreso than what Gigaton offered. More of Classic Ed and less of Word Salad Ed.

BF25394

ceska said:

BF25394 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm stoked we're getting a new record a "mere" 4 years after the last one. 

I know. Since 2013, Pearl Jam has released one album (and Ed has released one solo album). Meanwhile, Wilco is about to release their fifth studio album in that span, one of which is a double album. On top of that, in that span, Jeff Tweedy has released four solo albums, three consisting of original material, plus another double album that's not technically a solo album but for which he wrote all the songs. And he's written three books. And they tour all the time, whether it be Tweedy solo or the whole band. These are my two favorite bands, whom I've seen hundreds of times, and their approaches are so different.

Tweedy is prolific but, as a long time fan of both bands as well, I'll take PJ's quality over Wilco's quantity. Not much of Tweedy/Wilco's recent output has interested me. Star Wars was the last record that really grabbed my ongoing attention. I've relegated his solo albums from my rotation to my archive. Cruel Country has a nice sound - much better than Ode to Joy, but still not knock-my-socks-off. I might feel better about it without some of the dead weight of the 21 songs. I am not jazzed up at all for Cousin. Maybe I'll be surprised. 
I really liked Earthlings. Even though some of the middle-late songs on there are not my taste, I like the overall vibe, and the good songs are really good and really enjoyable. Invincible, Brother the Cloud, and The Dark, would be great on a PJ album and in concert. That's got me feeling good about the next PJ record, maybe moreso than what Gigaton offered. More of Classic Ed and less of Word Salad Ed.

I guess I'd like to find the happy medium between the two. I think Schmilco and Ode to Joy are low points in the Wilco catalog. Ode to Joy feels more like an intellectual exercise than a collection of good songs. I gave it a lot of listens to try to find the best it had to offer, and it was a chore. Cruel Country was a fantastic return to form. There's some great stuff on the Tweedy solo records, and some stuff that doesn't connect as well. But what I appreciate about Tweedy is that he is committed to being creative and to playing live. He is always writing songs, and he doesn't take long periods off from touring very often. I don't know how much Pearl Jam is writing, and I know how infrequently they're touring.

It just seems like Pearl Jam is on hiatus from one another an awful lot. I still think about Jeff saying the early days that he wanted to be like Neil Young and put out an album every six months. I never really expected that, but I also would never have believed it, if you told me at the end of 2013 that Pearl Jam would remain together for the next ten years but release only one album.

Word Salad Ed is a good description. He also seems increasingly to force "big words" into his lyrics that I think reflects an undercurrent of insecurity.

yosi

2-feign-reluctance said:

Folks still pining for 1992 Pearl Jam. 

2002. 

BrainofBGA

I wonder if Andrew was able to bring them together for a recording of Of the Earth that they were happy with!? 

lastexitlondon

Of the earth is old and been done. This will be all new and fresg

BF25394

The track list for the new album is out:

1. Can't Deny Me
2. Ole
3. Get It Back
4. Of the Earth (feat. Jeanne Tripplehorn)
5. Cold Confession
6. Let It Ride
7. The Haves (full-band version)
8. Arms Aloft
9. Buckle Up (feat. BTS)
10. Writer's Block ctd.

drfox

lastexitlondon said:

Of the earth is old and been done. This will be all new and fresg

Agree. Only possibility is for it to be on Lost Dogs 2 if they ever do that 

igotid88

BF25394 said:

The track list for the new album is out:

1. Can't Deny Me
2. Ole
3. Get It Back
4. Of the Earth (feat. Jeanne Tripplehorn)
5. Cold Confession
6. Let It Ride
7. The Haves (full-band version)
8. Arms Aloft
9. Buckle Up (feat. BTS)
10. Writer's Block ctd.

Nice

2-feign-reluctance

HughFreakingDillon said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Folks still pining for 1992 Pearl Jam. 

93 chris. get it right.

Haha! My fave PJ era hands down though! 

RoleModelsinBlood31

Let’s get a word salad stat made please and thank you.  How many words per album.

I want an album by album bar graph of how many words per album.

gigaton sucked ass. We all know that.  No one needs to feel embarrassed for Ed anymore.  Time to move on. 

GIVE US THE WORD SALAD PJ ALBUM BAR GRAPH WE WANT TO SEE.

BF25394

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Let’s get a word salad stat made please and thank you.  How many words per album.

I want an album by album bar graph of how many words per album.

gigaton sucked ass. We all know that.  No one needs to feel embarrassed for Ed anymore.  Time to move on. 

GIVE US THE WORD SALAD PJ ALBUM BAR GRAPH WE WANT TO SEE.

We don't all know that. I love Gigaton.

Regarding Word Salad, I'd also like to see a listing of average syllables per word. I'm thinking of subterfuge, dissertations, ramifications, clairvoyants, insemination, fortifications, periphery, circumscribed, circumsized, commandments, despondency, self-indulgent, etc. It's not that these words are used, it's that they often seem forced or out of place in song lyrics.

Having said that, I really love how Ed growls the word "ramifications" in "Grievance."

BrainofBGA

lastexitlondon said:

Of the earth is old and been done. This will be all new and fresg

Yep, fair call. 

igotid88

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Let’s get a word salad stat made please and thank you.  How many words per album.

I want an album by album bar graph of how many words per album.

gigaton sucked ass. We all know that.  No one needs to feel embarrassed for Ed anymore.  Time to move on. 

GIVE US THE WORD SALAD PJ ALBUM BAR GRAPH WE WANT TO SEE.

Gigaton didn't suck so we all don't know/think that. I like the big words. If you can fit preternatural in a song good for you

CO278952

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Let’s get a word salad stat made please and thank you.  How many words per album.

I want an album by album bar graph of how many words per album.

gigaton sucked ass. We all know that.  No one needs to feel embarrassed for Ed anymore.  Time to move on. 

GIVE US THE WORD SALAD PJ ALBUM BAR GRAPH WE WANT TO SEE.

ChatGPT refuses to provide the graph we want to see!  

“I apologize, but I cannot create visual charts or graphs in this text-based format. However, I can provide you with a list of Pearl Jam albums ranked by release date, and you can research the word count of lyrics in each album separately if needed:

1. "Ten" (1991)

2. "Vs." (1993)

3. "Vitalogy" (1994)

4. "No Code" (1996)

5. "Yield" (1998)

6. "Binaural" (2000)

7. "Riot Act" (2002)

8. "Pearl Jam" (2006)

9. "Backspacer" (2009)

10. "Lightning Bolt" (2013)

11. "Gigaton" (2020)

You can search for the specific word count of lyrics in each album through reliable sources or music databases.”