I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
go on.
Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.
Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band. I absolutely love Gigaton. But the best album of 2020 was Folklore, and it wasn't even close. You are free to hold the subjective opinion that Taylor Swift's work is not "Grammy-worthy" but, in reality, it is objectively the epitome of Grammy-worthy: critically lauded and commercially mega-successful.
Also, Pearl Jam has released two albums since 2009. Taylor Swift has released eight studio albums since 2009, and that's not counting the four re-recorded albums that are full of new tracks "from the vault." One of these acts is a lot more likely to spring to the mind of the average Grammy voter when he or she thinks, "Hey, who's at the forefront of creativity in music this year?"
Further, when you stand on stage at an event you've been invited to by an organization and declare that an honor given to you by that organization is meaningless, go figure that you might no longer be considered to the same extent for that honor in the future.
I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
go on.
Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.
Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band. I absolutely love Gigaton. But the best album of 2020 was Folklore, and it wasn't even close. You are free to hold the subjective opinion that Taylor Swift's work is not "Grammy-worthy" but, in reality, it is objectively the epitome of Grammy-worthy: critically lauded and commercially mega-successful.
Also, Pearl Jam has released two albums since 2009. Taylor Swift has released eight studio albums since 2009, and that's not counting the four re-recorded albums that are full of new tracks "from the vault." One of these acts is a lot more likely to spring to the mind of the average Grammy voter when he or she thinks, "Hey, who's at the forefront of creativity in music this year?"
Further, when you stand on stage at an event you've been invited to by an organization and declare that an honor given to you by that organization is meaningless, go figure that you might no longer be considered to the same extent for that honor in the future.
I never said she wasn't Grammy worthy. I'm saying out guys are. And they've been overlooked plenty.
All awards for 'art' are ridiculous and will mean very little in the long run. Look at the Grammy and Oscar winners from the 60's. Granted Sgt. Pep brought home album of year in 67, but the rest of the list... I mean, Bob Newhart won. Both awards, Oscars and Grammys are notoriously up for sale.
So, about this album. Excited for it, loved Gigaton, but very interested to hear as I'm a little nervous about the Watt-effect.
A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
Gotta say that I agree. Avocado was released a eeek before the tour started. Backspacer and Lightning Bolt were released during a tour. Gigaton was released end of March with shows originally beginning first week of May. April release followed by a May leg makes sense…February for a May leg doesn’t.
There will probably be a single tease within the first two weeks of January. First single in February - New single in March - Album in April - Tour in May.
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A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
Gotta say that I agree. Avocado was released a eeek before the tour started. Backspacer and Lightning Bolt were released during a tour. Gigaton was released end of March with shows originally beginning first week of May. April release followed by a May leg makes sense…February for a May leg doesn’t.
There will probably be a single tease within the first two weeks of January. First single in February - New single in March - Album in April - Tour in May.
I think Gigaton was released in March with tour also supposed to begin in March. If I recall I had tickets to Baltimore and the show was supposed to be in March in 2020.
A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
Gotta say that I agree. Avocado was released a eeek before the tour started. Backspacer and Lightning Bolt were released during a tour. Gigaton was released end of March with shows originally beginning first week of May. April release followed by a May leg makes sense…February for a May leg doesn’t.
There will probably be a single tease within the first two weeks of January. First single in February - New single in March - Album in April - Tour in May.
I think Gigaton was released in March with tour also supposed to begin in March. If I recall I had tickets to Baltimore and the show was supposed to be in March in 2020.
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Very excited. I'd say April/May-I recall Maynard breaking down timelines in reverse for an album to get released on a date-lot of stuff to get done first (though I recall Metallica being very prompt with 72 Seasons).
Shame about the other. Am expecting a Louder Than Love reissue before those 7 tracks come out.
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A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
Gotta say that I agree. Avocado was released a eeek before the tour started. Backspacer and Lightning Bolt were released during a tour. Gigaton was released end of March with shows originally beginning first week of May. April release followed by a May leg makes sense…February for a May leg doesn’t.
There will probably be a single tease within the first two weeks of January. First single in February - New single in March - Album in April - Tour in May.
I think Gigaton was released in March with tour also supposed to begin in March. If I recall I had tickets to Baltimore and the show was supposed to be in March in 2020.
You’re right, not sure what I was looking at lol. More the reason I don’t think there’s 2-3 month gap between album and shows
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I think Gigaton was released in March with tour also supposed to begin in March. If I recall I had tickets to Baltimore and the show was supposed to be in March in 2020.
Correct. They announced the tour in January. The album release and tour lined up with the start of baseball season/Innings Festival as well, with songs being used by Fox for national broadcasts. A solid effort to promote the album got completely railroaded by COVID.
One would be great. Though Ed's Earthling vinyl release there were 4 variants. Just hope there isn't 20+ variants like the last RHCP's album.
You're not obligated to buy any of them.
It is weird to me that there is more speculation about what colors the superfluous vinyl records will be than there is speculation about what songs will be on the album.
One would be great. Though Ed's Earthling vinyl release there were 4 variants. Just hope there isn't 20+ variants like the last RHCP's album.
You're not obligated to buy any of them.
It is weird to me that there is more speculation about what colors the superfluous vinyl records will be than there is speculation about what songs will be on the album.
What is there ro speculate about the songs
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I think the album release has been pushed back to April. So I don't think we'll get a single til February.
I don't think pushed back is correct at all. It is not like it had a release date and got delayed. Coming out later than the clickbait headlines had us believe maybe more accurate.
I think the album release has been pushed back to April. So I don't think we'll get a single til February.
I don't think pushed back is correct at all. It is not like it had a release date and got delayed. Coming out later than the clickbait headlines had us believe maybe more accurate.
True, that's basically what I meant. But I believe Stone had mentioned that he thought a single might be coming around Thanksgiving. I just don't see that happening anytime soon especially if the records not coming until April.
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Also, Pearl Jam has released two albums since 2009. Taylor Swift has released eight studio albums since 2009, and that's not counting the four re-recorded albums that are full of new tracks "from the vault." One of these acts is a lot more likely to spring to the mind of the average Grammy voter when he or she thinks, "Hey, who's at the forefront of creativity in music this year?"
Further, when you stand on stage at an event you've been invited to by an organization and declare that an honor given to you by that organization is meaningless, go figure that you might no longer be considered to the same extent for that honor in the future.
So, about this album. Excited for it, loved Gigaton, but very interested to hear as I'm a little nervous about the Watt-effect.
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Shame about the other. Am expecting a Louder Than Love reissue before those 7 tracks come out.
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One would be great. Though Ed's Earthling vinyl release there were 4 variants. Just hope there isn't 20+ variants like the last RHCP's album.
independant record store version
I can accept
But if I see a goddamn ” amazon ireland limited leprechaun edition not to be confused with the amazon lebanon cedar tree green edition”
It is weird to me that there is more speculation about what colors the superfluous vinyl records will be than there is speculation about what songs will be on the album.
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Missoula 6/20/98
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Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
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