Pearl Jam's new album ”Dark Matter” ! Single out!

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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,165
    Jeff’s about to be pissed
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,645
    I’m not a fan of Future Days, River Cross, and The Haves style songs on PJ records. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,513
    Ed songs 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,589
    edited September 2023
    I hope that doesn't mean more songs like Take the Long Way. That was one of my least favorites on Gigaton. More rocking, but less heavy at this point is better IMHO. Their mid-tempo stuff is where they shine. Songs more along the lines of Severed Hand, Whoever Said, Got Some and Getaway would be great.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,156
    edited September 2023
    Give me longer and moody rock songs with Eddies deep voice. More Jimi Hendrix, Phone Went West-My Morning Jacket, early-70s Neil Young and All or None/Can't Keep/Half Full-Riot Act and less whatever Eddies fast paced punk-influences are where he can barely up with the lyrics.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • strilostrilo Portland OR Posts: 483
    Yeah fuck all these slow songs like Just Breathe and River Cross. I want the classic era style like Crazy Mary and Nothingman.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    I like slow/mid tempo if it's CHARGED, but not sappy. Like I Got Shit. that's mid tempo, but it has an emotional feel that just gets you up there. It builds to a crescendo, but doesn't speed up. it's just intense. VS was harder and angrier, vitalogy/no code were tempered, and I love that era. 

    But I actually like all the eras for what they are. Even BS and LB. You can tell when a band tries to get "back to its roots" and it's not natural. I assume this would be natural, as this band, I just can't see them forcing it. 
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  • demetrios said:
    So basically how he always played on soundgarden records....
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  • I like the sounds of this!  Heavy drums and lots of Mike solos!  Can't wait!
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  • Hoping for a 10 minute long epic song!  Kind of along the lines of Of The Earth!
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  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,071
    Give me longer and moody rock songs with Eddies deep voice. More Jimi Hendrix, Phone Went West-My Morning Jacket, early-70s Neil Young and All or None/Can't Keep/Half Full-Riot Act and less whatever Eddies fast paced punk-influences are where he can barely up with the lyrics.
    Exactly! They sound like they’re doing covers of other bands with these songs that are sung nearly out of register and paced to where a 60 year old lifelong smoker can’t keep up.
  • Give me longer and moody rock songs with Eddies deep voice. More Jimi Hendrix, Phone Went West-My Morning Jacket, early-70s Neil Young and All or None/Can't Keep/Half Full-Riot Act and less whatever Eddies fast paced punk-influences are where he can barely up with the lyrics.
    Nailed it.
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,049
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    glad it wasnt just me
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,049
    I’m not a fan of Future Days, River Cross, and The Haves style songs on PJ records. 
    I absolutely love River Cross but accept its not really a PJ track. 

    I was listening last night to Reggae Woman that Ed put out years ago, fantastic track. Would love to hear a solo record in that vein
  • pdalowsky said:
    I’m not a fan of Future Days, River Cross, and The Haves style songs on PJ records. 
    I absolutely love River Cross but accept its not really a PJ track. 

    I was listening last night to Reggae Woman that Ed put out years ago, fantastic track. Would love to hear a solo record in that vein
    Is it a cover of Stevie wonder’s boogie on reggae woman? Never hear the Ed time, how have I missed that?
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,901
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    PJammin' said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    yeah, I first noticed it on backspacer. wonder where he picked that up. or if it was a necessary adjustment based on something like aging or whatever. 
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  • PJammin' said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    yeah, I first noticed it on backspacer. wonder where he picked that up. or if it was a necessary adjustment based on something like aging or whatever. 
    Pretty sure it's vocal training. It must help him hit notes
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  • PJammin' said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    Trying to protect his voice.. if he kept singing the way he did in the 90s he'd be done.
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  • Do you have an example of this?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    Do you have an example of this?
    at 1:02 in this video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb9GNIxpMk
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,156
    edited September 2023
    Ah. I always seen that "jaw" thing as an artistic choice to give the singing some... eh... hmm.... "twang"? A showman-thing and to not have the song melody too straight forward...
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,901
    Do you have an example of this?
    at 1:02 in this video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb9GNIxpMk
    It won’t play. What song?
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,901
    PJammin' said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    Trying to protect his voice.. if he kept singing the way he did in the 90s he'd be done.
    No, I’m not saying he needed to keep singing like the 90s. He still sounds great for where he is at this point in life, but I just noticed he does certain little things now that I don’t prefer. That’s all. I’d have to find an example…but it doesn’t matter. 
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,165
    Hopefully we might start to hear a thing or two about the album before the end of the year I.e single? Track listing? Name? More interviews about the upcoming release…that’s assuming it’s released earlier rather than later next year. 
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  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,891
    edited September 2023
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. He probably doesn't care, but I get the impression Watt wants to get the band rocking and having less adult contemporary dad rock.

    Also, hopefully no vedder "heeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"s to compensate for actual singing. 

    Love ya, Ed, but there's still some fire in your belly.

    Let Mikey rip some solos, please.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,353
    edited September 2023
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. He probably doesn't care, but I get the impression Watt wants to get the band rocking and having less adult contemporary dad rock.

    Also, hopefully no vedder "heeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"s to compensate for actual singing. 

    Love ya, Ed, but there's still some fire in your belly.

    Let Mikey rip some solos, please.
    I think you're wrong about this. The biggest hit they ever had was "Last Kiss." "Just Breathe" and "Sirens" are two of the three biggest hits they've had in the past fifteen years (along with "The Fixer"). "Just Breathe," "Sirens" and "The Fixer" are the only Pearl Jam songs to cross over to the Hot 100 since "World Wide Suicide" in 2006. The sappy songs are the ones that reach beyond the core audience.

    With respect to the jaw movement thing people are talking about, that's the vocal affectation that I've mentioned a lot on this board that makes him add syllables to words by aspirating in the middle of them. Think of "low-hoe light."

    EDIT: To be clear, I want Pearl Jam songs, whether they be fast or slow. The problem with "Just Breathe" and "The End," to the extent there is one, is that most of Pearl Jam doesn't do much on them. Save the solo songs for the solo records. (Although I think "Comes Then Goes" is just Ed and that song works well on Gigaton, so these are not hard and fast rules.)
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