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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Yes, I said " He could've said what he said in a kinder way....". He did give them a choice but to say, "That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice." is disingenuous.



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Yes, I said " He could've said what he said in a kinder way....". He did give them a choice but to say, "That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice." is disingenuous.



    maybe. I see it differently coming from the leader of a state. you can't say something is your choice and then follow it up with shaming people for making that choice. it's just going to embolden other assholes to do the same. 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    The tone of voice he used was as bad as the words. He sounded like a bully.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    exactly
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    The tone of voice he used was as bad as the words. He sounded like a bully.
    Or a parent lacking parenting skills.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    Why is wearing a mask ridiculous? Deathsantis did call it ridiculous. Why?
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The tone of voice he used was as bad as the words. He sounded like a bully.
    A bully having a little tantrum. 

    Why would anyone want to defend him?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Yes, I said " He could've said what he said in a kinder way....". He did give them a choice but to say, "That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice." is disingenuous.



    He was a dick about it.  It's that simple.  Keep defending dickish behavior.  It's enjoyable to watch. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Asshole move from any “adult”. Ginormous asshole move from a “leader”. 

    I really wish we could still have playground justice when these fucking fake tough guys grow up 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Yes, I said " He could've said what he said in a kinder way....". He did give them a choice but to say, "That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice." is disingenuous.



    Man - this is a weird hill to die on. Do you have any kids? Let me come on over and act like that and see if you get pissed at me
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    How is Desantis not for freedom and choice? That's hilarious you left out the rest of the article which says:

    “So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” the governor said before turning around and sighing.

    Four students took their masks off, but three left them on.

    DeSantis has previously said Florida is “the freest state in these United States and individuals should be left to decide for themselves how to respond to COVID-19.

    DeSantis spokesperson Christina Pushaw said the governor wanted “to make sure everyone is aware of the facts and data now, so they can feel free and comfortable without a mask.”

    “As the governor said, “You can wear them if you want” but there’s “no evidence” they make any difference,” she said in an email. “That has been clear for a long time, and the data informed our state’s official guidance. Following Florida, the CDC has even stopped recommending mask wearing for most Americans.”

    Did you read what he said? "if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous", which is absolutely true. He gave them a choice to wear the mask or not. 4 of the 7 kids (a majority) removed their masks. He could've said what he said in a kinder way but he is as fed up with COVID bullshit and lies as the rest of America. Many Democratic leaders have proven they feel the same way when they told their communities to mask up and then they went out without masks and got caught. It was theater.

    I have no problem if someone still wants to wear a mask. I personally won't make fun of them and I think it's pathetic for those who will make fun of them. If wearing a mask makes you feel safer, that is a personal choice that I respect even though most masks are not sufficient.
    he basically shamed them. on stage. on video. in public. sure, freedom of choice "wear it if you want to be a suck, go ahead" is essentially what he said to them. 
    Asshole move from any “adult”. Ginormous asshole move from a “leader”. 

    I really wish we could still have playground justice when these fucking fake tough guys grow up 
    I agree with you.  In passing this doesn't move the needle but it's a leader and he's talking to children so it does get a different set of rules.

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    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
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    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
    We would be complaining the same way that Trump addressed the press.  It wasn't very leaderlike.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
    We would be complaining the same way that Trump addressed the press.  It wasn't very leaderlike.
    All those razzle-dazzle hand motions would hypnotize you into sending money for merch.
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    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
    We would be complaining the same way that Trump addressed the press.  It wasn't very leaderlike.
    All those razzle-dazzle hand motions would hypnotize you into sending money for merch.
    I thought those were Jazz Hands?
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    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
    We would be complaining the same way that Trump addressed the press.  It wasn't very leaderlike.
    All those razzle-dazzle hand motions would hypnotize you into sending money for merch.
    I thought those were Jazz Hands?
    Razzle-dazzle jazz hands, yes.
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    Imagine Deathsantis speaking to the press as POTUS as they press him on some issue. X10.
    We would be complaining the same way that Trump addressed the press.  It wasn't very leaderlike.
    All those razzle-dazzle hand motions would hypnotize you into sending money for merch.
    I thought those were Jazz Hands?
    Razzle-dazzle jazz hands, yes.
    I've never seen the full term used...  That would be amazin!
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    Amazin razzle dazzle jazz hands?
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