Viruses / Vaccines 2

Gern Blansten

I can't count how many times I have said "please ask your doctor" about this fucking vaccine.

Why anyone would believe memes on facebook over a fucking doctor blows my mind

idiocy

Smellyman

will trust doctors to go under anesthesia, get cut open, take a kidney, hook it all up inside their body and go an insane amount of immunosuppressants and other drugs.

Won't trust doctor to get vaccine in order to stay on transplant list.

AW124797

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

PJNB

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

AW124797

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

Where is that? Unfortunately, most forum users here would agree to this. People lost their mind.

mrussel1

AW124797 said:

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

Negative. I suggest you read the paper.   This an independent paper by JHU economists,  not health care researchers.  The paper clearly states it is unaffiliated with the university itself.  Plus,  these are libertarian economists. 

static111

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

Negative. I suggest you read the paper.   This an independent paper by JHU economists,  not health care researchers.  The paper clearly states it is unaffiliated with the university itself.  Plus,  these are libertarian economists. 

Also they started by looking at 18000 studies and distilled it down to only 34 studies that they could use to prove their predictions.

"We only include studies that attempt to establish a relationship (or lack thereof) between lockdown policies and COVID-19 mortality or excess mortality. We exclude studies that use cases, hospitalizations, or other measures."  

In reading this am I correct to assume that if a paper shows that a lockdown decreased cases and hospitilizations it was ignored?  I mean if a lockdown decreases cases and hospitilizations wouldn't that decrease deaths?  Fucking people are thick. 

mrussel1

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

Negative. I suggest you read the paper.   This an independent paper by JHU economists,  not health care researchers.  The paper clearly states it is unaffiliated with the university itself.  Plus,  these are libertarian economists. 

Also they started by looking at 18000 studies and distilled it down to only 34 studies that they could use to prove their predictions.

"We only include studies that attempt to establish a relationship (or lack thereof) between lockdown policies and COVID-19 mortality or excess mortality. We exclude studies that use cases, hospitalizations, or other measures."  

In reading this am I correct to assume that if a paper shows that a lockdown decreased cases and hospitilizations it was ignored?  I mean if a lockdown decreases cases and hospitilizations wouldn't that decrease deaths?  Fucking people are thick. 

Yeah exactly.  And while I couldn't find the research in that Fox report, I read it yesterday through another link.  And in the paper, the baseline mortality rate that is used to determine the .2% improvement was established right at the beginning of the pandemic, and it was an analysis made before the pandemic really took off.  So the whole compare point was a SWAG to start.  

Last time I checked, we don't let economists make public health or medical decisions. 

Bentleyspop

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

Negative. I suggest you read the paper.   This an independent paper by JHU economists,  not health care researchers.  The paper clearly states it is unaffiliated with the university itself.  Plus,  these are libertarian economists. 

Also they started by looking at 18000 studies and distilled it down to only 34 studies that they could use to prove their predictions.

"We only include studies that attempt to establish a relationship (or lack thereof) between lockdown policies and COVID-19 mortality or excess mortality. We exclude studies that use cases, hospitalizations, or other measures."  

In reading this am I correct to assume that if a paper shows that a lockdown decreased cases and hospitilizations it was ignored?  I mean if a lockdown decreases cases and hospitilizations wouldn't that decrease deaths?  Fucking people are thick. 

Yeah exactly.  And while I couldn't find the research in that Fox report, I read it yesterday through another link.  And in the paper, the baseline mortality rate that is used to determine the .2% improvement was established right at the beginning of the pandemic, and it was an analysis made before the pandemic really took off.  So the whole compare point was a SWAG to start.  

Last time I checked, we don't let economists make public health or medical decisions. 

But millions of people allow conspiracy theorists,, podcasters, NFL qbs, strangers on FB and YT, and failed NY developers to make their decisions for them.

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

mrussel1

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

More misinformation from Johns Hopkins:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lockdowns-reduced-covid-19-mortality-by-2-study-finds-lockdowns-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand

Negative. I suggest you read the paper.   This an independent paper by JHU economists,  not health care researchers.  The paper clearly states it is unaffiliated with the university itself.  Plus,  these are libertarian economists. 

Also they started by looking at 18000 studies and distilled it down to only 34 studies that they could use to prove their predictions.

"We only include studies that attempt to establish a relationship (or lack thereof) between lockdown policies and COVID-19 mortality or excess mortality. We exclude studies that use cases, hospitalizations, or other measures."  

In reading this am I correct to assume that if a paper shows that a lockdown decreased cases and hospitilizations it was ignored?  I mean if a lockdown decreases cases and hospitilizations wouldn't that decrease deaths?  Fucking people are thick. 

Yeah exactly.  And while I couldn't find the research in that Fox report, I read it yesterday through another link.  And in the paper, the baseline mortality rate that is used to determine the .2% improvement was established right at the beginning of the pandemic, and it was an analysis made before the pandemic really took off.  So the whole compare point was a SWAG to start.  

Last time I checked, we don't let economists make public health or medical decisions. 

But millions of people allow conspiracy theorists,, podcasters, NFL qbs, strangers on FB and YT, and failed NY developers to make their decisions for them.

Sorry anti-vaxxer. 

mfc2006

My wife started feeling crappy on Saturday & I started feeling crappy on Sunday. On Monday, we both got PCR tests. Got our results on Tuesday morning--she was positive, I was negative. So, we're at home. There is no doubt that I am also positive at this point, but I am getting another PCR on Friday. I'm hoping the symptoms lessen by then. Headache, body aches, congestion and just really fucking tired. Thank god for the vaccines + booster. Be well, everyone.

HughFreakingDillon

mfc2006 said:

My wife started feeling crappy on Saturday & I started feeling crappy on Sunday. On Monday, we both got PCR tests. Got our results on Tuesday morning--she was positive, I was negative. So, we're at home. There is no doubt that I am also positive at this point, but I am getting another PCR on Friday. I'm hoping the symptoms lessen by then. Headache, body aches, congestion and just really fucking tired. Thank god for the vaccines + booster. Be well, everyone.

take care dude. 

dignin

mfc2006 said:

My wife started feeling crappy on Saturday & I started feeling crappy on Sunday. On Monday, we both got PCR tests. Got our results on Tuesday morning--she was positive, I was negative. So, we're at home. There is no doubt that I am also positive at this point, but I am getting another PCR on Friday. I'm hoping the symptoms lessen by then. Headache, body aches, congestion and just really fucking tired. Thank god for the vaccines + booster. Be well, everyone.

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Our 4 year old tested positive last week. His only symptom was lethargy and complained a few times of a sore stomach.

My wife then got very minor symptoms and recovered in about 3 days. She took about 4 rapid tests but never tested positive, but it could only be Covid because she had no other contacts.

I've been symptom free and taken 3 rapid tests now, all negative. Last one this morning. Same with my 7 year old. We have taken no precautions in the home since the positive test. We just wanted to get it over with.

Where I live PCR tests are no longer available and we are running out of rapid tests, so i'm just going to assume that I've had it at this point or I was one of the lucky few whose vaccine prevented infection. I was boosted in September.

As you said, vaccines for the win. Only one in the family to test positive was the unvaccinated one. We are very grateful. 

mfc2006

^^ thanks, guys.

We're ok---just feels like a really nasty cold. I think we'll be feeling better in the next few days.

Gern Blansten

I'm not sure if we had it or not (couldn't get home tests and didn't mess with scheduling one) but we both just had cold symptoms except my wife did seem to lose her sense of smell for a few days.

I have had a cough for a month though. Not bronchitis or anything just mild drainage and cough.  Really wish it would go away.

PJNB

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

hedonist

mfc2006 said:

^^ thanks, guys.

We're ok---just feels like a really nasty cold. I think we'll be feeling better in the next few days.

Good news!

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Spiritual_Chaos

All restrictions removed in Sweden on the 9th. 

Time to party like it's February of 2020.