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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,430
    Everyone take a drink when you hear “deep state”. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 669
    mickeyrat said:

    "MRNA technology that continues to save millions of lives from Covid..."

    How accurate is that? 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,653
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    "MRNA technology that continues to save millions of lives from Covid..."

    How accurate is that? 
    Are you aware that MRNA technology has successfully been used in pigs to regenerate heart tissue after a heart attack, and is going to human trial next year?  When a person has an MI, the heart tissue is damaged beyond repair, which leads to eventual heart failure.  This will allow a 70 year old heart to beat with the strength of a 40 year old.  Second, MRNA is also in late testing of using your DNA cells to completely build a new heart and eventually other organs too.  

    Just be sure your health choices are fully informed by your political inclinations.  That's always the wise choice.  

    https://www.wsj.com/health/grow-heart-lung-tissue-medical-technology-24b22bb4
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 924
    mrussel1 said:
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
    That sounds so stupid and paranoid.  

    Let's try this a different way.  Do you believe that parents that send their children to public schools should be mandated to have those children vaccinated against measles, mumps and polio?
    Yes, b/c those vaccines’ development went through much more scrutiny and oversight than the supposed Covid vaccine did. The Covid vaccine was forced upon the populace by skipping over steps that were not skipped before in the development of those 3 vaccines.  Big Pharma also hid data from vax trials from the public and still do to this day.  One of Trump’s biggest missteps was Op warp speed.  I wish he would admit that.  So, back to your original question, yes I’m good with measles, mumps and polio vaxes.  The clot shot is a different ball of wax.  I don’t believe you can compare it with the vaccines you mentioned.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,653
    mrussel1 said:
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
    That sounds so stupid and paranoid.  

    Let's try this a different way.  Do you believe that parents that send their children to public schools should be mandated to have those children vaccinated against measles, mumps and polio?
    Yes, b/c those vaccines’ development went through much more scrutiny and oversight than the supposed Covid vaccine did. The Covid vaccine was forced upon the populace by skipping over steps that were not skipped before in the development of those 3 vaccines.  Big Pharma also hid data from vax trials from the public and still do to this day.  One of Trump’s biggest missteps was Op warp speed.  I wish he would admit that.  So, back to your original question, yes I’m good with measles, mumps and polio vaxes.  The clot shot is a different ball of wax.  I don’t believe you can compare it with the vaccines you mentioned.
    Just so you know, the Polio vaccine did not go through deep trials.  It was licensed in 1955 and released the same year.  And the vaccine was never more than 94% effective.  It relies on herd immunity to be effective.  


  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 924
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
    That sounds so stupid and paranoid.  

    Let's try this a different way.  Do you believe that parents that send their children to public schools should be mandated to have those children vaccinated against measles, mumps and polio?
    Yes, b/c those vaccines’ development went through much more scrutiny and oversight than the supposed Covid vaccine did. The Covid vaccine was forced upon the populace by skipping over steps that were not skipped before in the development of those 3 vaccines.  Big Pharma also hid data from vax trials from the public and still do to this day.  One of Trump’s biggest missteps was Op warp speed.  I wish he would admit that.  So, back to your original question, yes I’m good with measles, mumps and polio vaxes.  The clot shot is a different ball of wax.  I don’t believe you can compare it with the vaccines you mentioned.
    Just so you know, the Polio vaccine did not go through deep trials.  It was licensed in 1955 and released the same year.  And the vaccine was never more than 94% effective.  It relies on herd immunity to be effective.  


    I obviously didn’t know that.  Thanks for the info.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,470
    But did the world have two years or even one year to do trials? Once the virus started to move through our cities specially here in NY the death toll was staggering! 
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  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 924
    But did the world have two years or even one year to do trials? Once the virus started to move through our cities specially here in NY the death toll was staggering! 
    It was treatment protocols set by Fauci that did more harm to people than the actual virus.  Also death tolls were so inflated that if someone died in a car accident but was Covid positive, that death went on the books as a Covid death.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,653
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
    That sounds so stupid and paranoid.  

    Let's try this a different way.  Do you believe that parents that send their children to public schools should be mandated to have those children vaccinated against measles, mumps and polio?
    Yes, b/c those vaccines’ development went through much more scrutiny and oversight than the supposed Covid vaccine did. The Covid vaccine was forced upon the populace by skipping over steps that were not skipped before in the development of those 3 vaccines.  Big Pharma also hid data from vax trials from the public and still do to this day.  One of Trump’s biggest missteps was Op warp speed.  I wish he would admit that.  So, back to your original question, yes I’m good with measles, mumps and polio vaxes.  The clot shot is a different ball of wax.  I don’t believe you can compare it with the vaccines you mentioned.
    Just so you know, the Polio vaccine did not go through deep trials.  It was licensed in 1955 and released the same year.  And the vaccine was never more than 94% effective.  It relies on herd immunity to be effective.  


    I obviously didn’t know that.  Thanks for the info.
    No offense, but this is what is frustrating.  When you're in a crisis, you can't go through the perfect level of testing and try to get something to 99.99% effective.  From 48-55, the US was in the midst of another polio outbreak, so the gov't decided the risk was worth it.  And it was.  Same thing here.  Now do we know whether the virus would have mutated enough to be the lower risk it is today if we didn't have the vaccine?  Of course we don't.  We will never know that answer and frankly we should not know such an answer, as it would mean setting up large scale test and control while the disease raged. 

    When in a crisis, you have to make tough decisions with imperfect information.  That's what the Trump admin did in this case and I agree with their decision.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,503
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    "MRNA technology that continues to save millions of lives from Covid..."

    How accurate is that? 

    well, I vax and am still alive, so theres one....
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,470
    But did the world have two years or even one year to do trials? Once the virus started to move through our cities specially here in NY the death toll was staggering! 
    It was treatment protocols set by Fauci that did more harm to people than the actual virus.  Also death tolls were so inflated that if someone died in a car accident but was Covid positive, that death went on the books as a Covid death.  
    Ok some aspects of how the death count happened I’m sure wasn’t or isn’t a perfect system but I know that when it started to get bad the morgue at the hospital I worked at the time was being emptied at least 3 times a day the morgue holds 34 corpses! So yeah it was bad 
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