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  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,421
    BF25394 said:
    This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.

    There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their  cultural or political allegiances.
    Well said, BF25394
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    BF89905 said:
    BF25394 said:
    This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.

    There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their  cultural or political allegiances.
    Well said, BF25394
    We BFs have each other's backs...
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,225
    BF25394 said:
    BF89905 said:
    BF25394 said:
    This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.

    There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their  cultural or political allegiances.
    Well said, BF25394
    We BFs have each other's backs...

    how come we never see you at the same time? inquiring minds.....
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF89905 said:
    BF25394 said:
    This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.

    There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their  cultural or political allegiances.
    Well said, BF25394
    We BFs have each other's backs...

    how come we never see you at the same time? inquiring minds.....
    He works Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday. I've got Monday/Wednesday/Friday.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,956
    I got my flu and COVID shots yesterday. So far just a sore arm.
  • Force Of NatureForce Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,102
    Why should I wear a seatbelt?  I'm not going to crash my car.
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,956
    edited November 14
    Got my pneumonia shot two days ago. That sucker burned going in and my arm still feels like someone punched it. I feel really tired too. My doctor wants me to get the shingles series of shots too, but I am going to wait a few weeks to get that. Getting older sucks.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,335
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Why should I wear a seatbelt?  I'm not going to crash my car.
    Because you get a ticket if you don't!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,225
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,335
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,225
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 

    she still in the house? if so, that would be one reason FOR vaxxing. vax is intended to reduce viral load, therefore reducing transmission possibility.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,804
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 
    I’m more concerned about the flu. That really sucks. Way worse than Covid current strains. 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 
    I’m more concerned about the flu. That really sucks. Way worse than Covid current strains. 
    There have been twice as many COVID deaths in the U.S. over the last 12 months than there have been flu deaths.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,335
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 

    she still in the house? if so, that would be one reason FOR vaxxing. vax is intended to reduce viral load, therefore reducing transmission possibility.
    yeah, she's pretty "low level" compromised, I'm sure I'll get it. I know my (adult) daughter doesn't care, but my wife will likely convince me. Only reason I didn't get it last year was cuz I got covid a few days prior to my jab. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,804
    BF25394 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 
    I’m more concerned about the flu. That really sucks. Way worse than Covid current strains. 
    There have been twice as many COVID deaths in the U.S. over the last 12 months than there have been flu deaths.
    I’m not arguing that. I have had Covid twice and know how my body deals with that vs the flu. For me the flu is tougher. 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    mrussel1 said:
    BF25394 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 
    I’m more concerned about the flu. That really sucks. Way worse than Covid current strains. 
    There have been twice as many COVID deaths in the U.S. over the last 12 months than there have been flu deaths.
    I’m not arguing that. I have had Covid twice and know how my body deals with that vs the flu. For me the flu is tougher. 
    Your statement seemed general, not specific, but it's true that individuals will definitely have different tolerances to different viruses.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,225
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    my wife asked me yesterday when I want my flu covid shots booked. I'm like "I don't think so". she was bewildered. I don't know. I feel like covid has gotten to a place where it's not that bad. 

    curious, whats led to this "feel"? I choose to vax so I dont look into much as far as current dominant strain, rates of infection, severity of illness etc.. wondered to what degree if any you've researched to come to your conclusion. your life/decision regardless. just wondered is all.
    just that last time I was about to vax I had to cancel as I actually came down with it. Solid line after about 3 seconds. Scared the shit out of me of what the next few days would be. Turned out to be a mild cold. I've had it twice and I've had much worse colds, and I haven't had the flu in like two decades or more, vaxxed or not. I got the flu vax when my kids were young as my oldest is immune compromised. 

    she still in the house? if so, that would be one reason FOR vaxxing. vax is intended to reduce viral load, therefore reducing transmission possibility.
    yeah, she's pretty "low level" compromised, I'm sure I'll get it. I know my (adult) daughter doesn't care, but my wife will likely convince me. Only reason I didn't get it last year was cuz I got covid a few days prior to my jab. 

    right on.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,335
    appointment made. My wife "encouraged" me to get it. haha
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,052
    appointment made. My wife "encouraged" me to get it. haha
    At least you won't have to sleep on the couch. 
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    appointment made. My wife "encouraged" me to get it. haha
    You gave in to her "needling"?
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,225
    edited November 16
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    Getting both flu & covid shots today! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,077
    I’ve never got a Flu or Covid vax shot, and I don’t have any issue with those that choose too.  Thank God we live in a Country, for now, that want force someone to put something in their body they don’t want in it.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    I’ve never got a Flu or Covid vax shot, and I don’t have any issue with those that choose too.  Thank God we live in a Country, for now, that want force someone to put something in their body they don’t want in it.  
    But we will live in a country that will outlaw immunization if it’s up to RFK Junior! You know the immunization that your parents got for you when you were a kid the ones that most if not all pediatricians have suggested for decades! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,077
    This is false.  Show me a direct quote or some statement attributed to RFK Jr where he said he wanted to outlaw vaccines?  He wants vaccines to be safe and undergo the same scrutiny and trials any other meds we use have to go through.  He also wants the pharmaceutical companies to be able to held liable for vaccine injuries.  Which at the present they are not.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    edited November 16
    This is false.  Show me a direct quote or some statement attributed to RFK Jr where he said he wanted to outlaw vaccines?  He wants vaccines to be safe and undergo the same scrutiny and trials any other meds we use have to go through.  He also wants the pharmaceutical companies to be able to held liable for vaccine injuries.  Which at the present they are not.  
    This could happen that’s what it looks like and ok I stand corrected that Junior didn’t say it! You see that’s what taking ownership of something you said/done looks like, I’ve never seen that behavior from you or any MAGA folks including the leader of the cult! 
    It’s ok to be wrong or be proven wrong admitting it is the hard part for folks! 
    Post edited by josevolution on
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,077
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,804
    Gtfoh with Newsweek.  That’s nothing but a deep state propaganda outlet.  
    That sounds so stupid and paranoid.  

    Let's try this a different way.  Do you believe that parents that send their children to public schools should be mandated to have those children vaccinated against measles, mumps and polio?
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