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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,022
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

    lol, people without vaccines don't die?
    Infrequently to never...
    Are you able to support that with any kind of science?   Some kind of study done on excess deaths of people who are vaccinated, vaccinated and had covid, unvaccinated and never had covid, unvaccinated had covid?

    I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?

    I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything.    So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment.  Maybe it's both, I don't know.  Never done any science on it :)

    nope. read it on the internet. an obscure website. totally believable. its true.....
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,503
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

    lol, people without vaccines don't die?
    Infrequently to never...
    Are you able to support that with any kind of science?   Some kind of study done on excess deaths of people who are vaccinated, vaccinated and had covid, unvaccinated and never had covid, unvaccinated had covid?

    I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?

    I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything.    So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment.  Maybe it's both, I don't know.  Never done any science on it :)
    Don't you try to oppress me with your demands for information and rational arguments.  It is 100% true that people with the vaccine have died.  Full stop.  That's all I need to know. 
  • ZodZod Posts: 9,841
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

    lol, people without vaccines don't die?
    Infrequently to never...
    Are you able to support that with any kind of science?   Some kind of study done on excess deaths of people who are vaccinated, vaccinated and had covid, unvaccinated and never had covid, unvaccinated had covid?

    I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?

    I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything.    So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment.  Maybe it's both, I don't know.  Never done any science on it :)
    Don't you try to oppress me with your demands for information and rational arguments.  It is 100% true that people with the vaccine have died.  Full stop.  That's all I need to know. 
    But people without vaccines die too?  Nobody lives forever.. lol.  If someone told me I could live forever if I never got a vaccine, that would be an interesting thing :)
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,503
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

    lol, people without vaccines don't die?
    Infrequently to never...
    Are you able to support that with any kind of science?   Some kind of study done on excess deaths of people who are vaccinated, vaccinated and had covid, unvaccinated and never had covid, unvaccinated had covid?

    I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?

    I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything.    So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment.  Maybe it's both, I don't know.  Never done any science on it :)
    Don't you try to oppress me with your demands for information and rational arguments.  It is 100% true that people with the vaccine have died.  Full stop.  That's all I need to know. 
    But people without vaccines die too?  Nobody lives forever.. lol.  If someone told me I could live forever if I never got a vaccine, that would be an interesting thing :)
    There you go again, trying to complicate things.  I feel like I'm talking to the liberal media/Deep State/Communists/Marxists/Hippies/Corporate Globalists here.  
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,540
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

    lol, people without vaccines don't die?
    Infrequently to never...
    Are you able to support that with any kind of science?   Some kind of study done on excess deaths of people who are vaccinated, vaccinated and had covid, unvaccinated and never had covid, unvaccinated had covid?

    I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?

    I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything.    So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment.  Maybe it's both, I don't know.  Never done any science on it :)
    Don't you try to oppress me with your demands for information and rational arguments.  It is 100% true that people with the vaccine have died.  Full stop.  That's all I need to know. 
    But people without vaccines die too?  Nobody lives forever.. lol.  If someone told me I could live forever if I never got a vaccine, that would be an interesting thing :)
    There you go again, trying to complicate things.  I feel like I'm talking to the liberal media/Deep State/Communists/Marxists/Hippies/Corporate Globalists here.  
    I’m nit sure how many Rosalynn Carters and Betty Whites it’s going to take for these people
    to get it. 
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,312
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    Dr. Fauci imposed measures on you that were not very scientific, if you remember well... unless they also affect your memory..
    Never mind that, let’s talk about footballers born in the 1940s dropping like flies. 
    Never mind that??..very nice, anything that doesn't suit you, let's get over it??..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,312
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Unfortunately it is happening now..

    Now and everywhere..
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,540
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Unfortunately it is happening now..

    Now and everywhere..
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
    The Slovakian version of Trump
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,289
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    Dr. Fauci imposed measures on you that were not very scientific, if you remember well... unless they also affect your memory..
    Never mind that, let’s talk about footballers born in the 1940s dropping like flies. 
    Never mind that??..very nice, anything that doesn't suit you, let's get over it??..
    I want to hear more about the 80 year old athletes dropping by the thousands. Did they all collapse on the pitch? 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,402
    Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024):  How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago.  Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?
    I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me.  I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since.  I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well).  Stamina and energy are down.   I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life). 
    I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out.  Doctors don't seem to know.  I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that. 
    So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s.  Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,289
    Oh man, I’m really sorry to hear this, Brian. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,402
    Oh man, I’m really sorry to hear this, Brian. 

    Thanks so much! 
    It could be worse, and I know/ have know people with much worse, and I do try to remember that things could be a lot worse.  I just really hope none of this is vaccine related.  I've been very good about getting all of the vaccinations.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,022
    had pfizer all along including this past dec.  side effects lessened each time including less soreness at injection site
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  • ZodZod Posts: 9,841
    I had moderna for my 3rd shot.  The day after, it was similar to a Pfizer.  Sore arm, kind of lathargic and felt a bit off.   The problem was later that night about 24 hours after the shot I developed an insanely bad fever.   I tried to bury myself under all the blankets in the house because I couldn't stop shivering.   Ended up getting heat rash all over myself.  It was a shitty weekend.

    I almost didn't get a fourth but I waited extra months for pfizer shots to be around, and luckily it was pfizer.

    I haven't bothered on a 5th shot.  I had covid once in May 2022.  I've been sick 3 times since, none of which have been covid.  I dunno. I'm good.  The most sick I've been in the last 8 years was from the moderna shot.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,402
    Zod said:
    I had moderna for my 3rd shot.  The day after, it was similar to a Pfizer.  Sore arm, kind of lathargic and felt a bit off.   The problem was later that night about 24 hours after the shot I developed an insanely bad fever.   I tried to bury myself under all the blankets in the house because I couldn't stop shivering.   Ended up getting heat rash all over myself.  It was a shitty weekend.

    I almost didn't get a fourth but I waited extra months for pfizer shots to be around, and luckily it was pfizer.

    I haven't bothered on a 5th shot.  I had covid once in May 2022.  I've been sick 3 times since, none of which have been covid.  I dunno. I'm good.  The most sick I've been in the last 8 years was from the moderna shot.

    Does not sound like a good time, Zod! I hope all ill effects have passed.
    I'm not against vax, but I won't do another until I'm sure it has not been rushed and has widespread confidence.  I can't again chance what I went through the last time.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,719
    edited February 8
    I was going to get a booster then I got covid. My 2nd time. 

    Sorry to hear if your struggles Brian . 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,050
    I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster.  Haven't gotten one since.  Why?  Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.

    The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy.  Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would.  But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.  


    Brian - I wish you well.  I hope whatever you have going on improves for you.  Feeling poorly really sucks.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,064
    brianlux said:
    Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024):  How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago.  Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?
    I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me.  I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since.  I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well).  Stamina and energy are down.   I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life). 
    I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out.  Doctors don't seem to know.  I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that. 
    So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s.  Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.

    That sucks, Brian.  Sorry about what you are going through.

    I only had the 2 Moderna shots and 1 booster.  Got lazy I guess.  I had Covid in summer of 2022 during the PJ spread event (haha) and just a few weeks ago had covid but was not bad.  Felt worse with the flu I got 1st week of January.  I tested negative twice for Covid then but who know.

    I have never gotten a flu shot.  I do need to get a shingles vaccine.

    I hope you start getting better and better days, Brian
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,792
    I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster.  Haven't gotten one since.  Why?  Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.

    The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy.  Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would.  But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.  


    Brian - I wish you well.  I hope whatever you have going on improves for you.  Feeling poorly really sucks.
    Interesting. My wife and I stayed Covid free on one of those group tours through Alaska last fall. Halfway through, coughing throughout the bus was becoming prevalent. Two of the few conscientious couples got tested and disappeared. I'd say about a 3rd of the 50 or so people had Covid by the end (hooray for those on their flights home). We never got it. We'd both had it about 8 months earlier. I never really thought that our first bouts with it could be why we dodged the bullet. But we were about 11 months removed from our last vaccinations. So maybe that was why we stayed covid-free. The night before one of the couples got ill, we'd eaten dinner directly across from them (albeit, outdoors).

    I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.

    It's all a mystery.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,792
    brianlux said:
    Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024):  How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago.  Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?
    I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me.  I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since.  I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well).  Stamina and energy are down.   I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life). 
    I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out.  Doctors don't seem to know.  I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that. 
    So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s.  Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.

    Vaccinations have never made me feel anything other than a sore arm...except that last moderna I had made me feel outrageously lethargic and like I might vomit for about 12 hours (most in bed).

    Your story makes me more nervous because this seems like a potential longer term impact. Even that bad three days, as un-fun as that is, doesn't strike me as worrying. But what you've been going through since makes me nervous. Hopefully you get it all figured out...Best of luck.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,050
    OnWis97 said:
    I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster.  Haven't gotten one since.  Why?  Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.

    The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy.  Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would.  But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.  


    Brian - I wish you well.  I hope whatever you have going on improves for you.  Feeling poorly really sucks.
    Interesting. My wife and I stayed Covid free on one of those group tours through Alaska last fall. Halfway through, coughing throughout the bus was becoming prevalent. Two of the few conscientious couples got tested and disappeared. I'd say about a 3rd of the 50 or so people had Covid by the end (hooray for those on their flights home). We never got it. We'd both had it about 8 months earlier. I never really thought that our first bouts with it could be why we dodged the bullet. But we were about 11 months removed from our last vaccinations. So maybe that was why we stayed covid-free. The night before one of the couples got ill, we'd eaten dinner directly across from them (albeit, outdoors).

    I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.

    It's all a mystery.
    It is a mystery and so many variables.  Hard to really know.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,289
    OnWis97 said:
    I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster.  Haven't gotten one since.  Why?  Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.

    The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy.  Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would.  But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.  


    Brian - I wish you well.  I hope whatever you have going on improves for you.  Feeling poorly really sucks.
    Interesting. My wife and I stayed Covid free on one of those group tours through Alaska last fall. Halfway through, coughing throughout the bus was becoming prevalent. Two of the few conscientious couples got tested and disappeared. I'd say about a 3rd of the 50 or so people had Covid by the end (hooray for those on their flights home). We never got it. We'd both had it about 8 months earlier. I never really thought that our first bouts with it could be why we dodged the bullet. But we were about 11 months removed from our last vaccinations. So maybe that was why we stayed covid-free. The night before one of the couples got ill, we'd eaten dinner directly across from them (albeit, outdoors).

    I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.

    It's all a mystery.
    My wife had it over New Years weekend and was bed ridden for three days, but I never got it.

    Granted, I slept on the couch, but we weren't completely avoiding each other, and we were sleeping in the same bed right up until the morning she tested positive... how I didn't get it is beyond me (I tested twice too, and was negative both times) 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,402
    Thanks for your input and good wishes, everybody!
    I probably will never know why I have an autoimmune disease.  Probably not due to the vaccine, but who knows?  It's one of those sketchy things that modern medicine is still fairly unclear about.  I just have to be thankful to still be kickin', and that at this point it's not something worse.  If I were to croak tomorrow, I would say I've had a good life (well, actually, I would cease talking altogether, haha).  Meanwhile, as they say, I'm keepin' on keepin' on.
    Thanks again, friends.
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,159
    Sorry to hear of the issues you've experienced recently, Brian. Now for an inspirational quote
    "Hang in there. If you believe what you're doing is unique. Otherwise give up or sound like Nirvana or Pearl Jam."
    -- Joey Ramone
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,506
    brianlux said:
    Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024):  How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago.  Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?
    I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me.  I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since.  I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well).  Stamina and energy are down.   I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life). 
    I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out.  Doctors don't seem to know.  I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that. 
    So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s.  Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.

    Got my 4th booster last month.
    Each time the side effects have been less and less.
    This time just felt a little off the next morning but that dissipated quickly.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,496
    Autoimmune problems can come from vaccines and from virus could be either. I think the immune system goes into overdrive at the time. Probably never know but I hope it's manageable Brian. Take care my friend 
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,312
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Unfortunately it is happening now..

    Now and everywhere..
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
    The Slovakian version of Trump
    I see a useful answer here..
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,312
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    Dr. Fauci imposed measures on you that were not very scientific, if you remember well... unless they also affect your memory..
    Never mind that, let’s talk about footballers born in the 1940s dropping like flies. 
    Never mind that??..very nice, anything that doesn't suit you, let's get over it??..
    I want to hear more about the 80 year old athletes dropping by the thousands. Did they all collapse on the pitch? 
    I also want to hear about all the scientific measures they took but I have the silence of the lambs here..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,289
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 
    Dr. Fauci imposed measures on you that were not very scientific, if you remember well... unless they also affect your memory..
    Never mind that, let’s talk about footballers born in the 1940s dropping like flies. 
    Never mind that??..very nice, anything that doesn't suit you, let's get over it??..
    I want to hear more about the 80 year old athletes dropping by the thousands. Did they all collapse on the pitch? 
    I also want to hear about all the scientific measures they took but I have the silence of the lambs here..
    Of course you do… your claims of athletes dying are complete bullshit and you can’t back them up so you’re trying to change the subject. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,902
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    you really need to do better homework. 

    “Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
    Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
    While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.
    In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.
    Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.
    Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
    You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
    This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
    and thats only in football, ok??..

    As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
    You’re doing great, here. 
    No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol
    Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

    These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

    We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 
    My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 
    Unfortunately it is happening now..

    Now and everywhere..
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
    I meant to respond to this image when you first posted it, because it made me laugh. Your argument is that the CoVID vaccine is responsible for Portugal's excess deaths seems to be disputed even in the article itself. Things the article mentions:
    -the flu virus is rampant and hospital emergency departments are overcrowded
    -because of this load (and the flu spreading), they have reduced teams and limited services
    -the excess deaths began during the pandemic before the mass roll-out of Covid vaccines
    -as of 2022, 30 million diagnostic tests had been given lesser priority given the load on the medical system - this inevitably increases mortality over a long-enough timespan
    -they admit to making mistakes on the number of fatalities from Covid, which led them to prioritize treatment of it over other ailments

    https://www.portugalresident.com/portugal-registers-highest-level-of-excess-deaths-in-europe/
    https://www.portugalresident.com/30-million-diagnostic-tests-just-didnt-get-done-due-to-pandemic/ 

    I guess it's time to move the goalpost again?
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