Want do you think is the best and worst decision the band has made over their career?

cp3iverson

Indifference71 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Best - Ending the music video boycott for Do The Evolution
Worst - Arms Aloft as the second song at PJ20. 

I randomly think about this every now and then and get irrationally upset!! That crowd was ready to explode after Release.  Swap out Arms Aloft for Corduroy and it makes a class PJ weekend even better....crazy that they didn't play Corduroy at all that weekend.

I actually have the opposite feeling about the Arms Aloft PJ20 thing.   I realize it was a “crowd pleasing” weekend but if the crowd can’t stay hyped for any song two songs into a Pearl Jam festival then that’s on the crowd.  I remember Nirvana busting out bizarre slow covers as the second song before.  Or Radiohead playing almost nothing except their last two albums.  PJ had enough surprises in store to do whatever they wanted with those sets. This was an uptempo rock song.  

HughFreakingDillon

I just don't know why they play Arms Aloft at all. I mean, maybe they love playing it. But I've never really seen a great crowd reaction to the song. Even in Winnipeg it fell kinda flat. Especially after Ed accidentally introduced it as Amongst The Waves, lol

smile6680

Just to be clear. I think it's great that people really enjoy the last three albums. I just don't. I also wouldn't say people are wrong if they don't like any or all of the first five. I love them. I also know this board is dominated by people who are intolerant of different views and opinions on things. It's okay to disagree. Threads are continually filled with incorrect information on both sides of about any topic currently being discussed. 

EDIT. I meant the first eight albums. not five.

HughFreakingDillon

smile6680 said:

Just to be clear. I think it's great that people really enjoy the last three albums. I just don't. I also wouldn't say people are wrong if they don't like any or all of the first five. I love them. I also know this board is dominated by people who are intolerant of different views and opinions on things. It's okay to disagree. Threads are continually filled with incorrect information on both sides of about any topic currently being discussed. 

um....what? about the band? maybe about politics of certain nature on AMT....but the music? I mean, come on, we all give @mcgruff10 a constant rib for hating on Riot Act, but it's all in good fun. I would find it odd if someone said they hated Ten but loved Lightning Bolt, but to each their own. @Of The Aggie thinks Gigaton sounds the same as LB, and I think that's crazy, but I don't think SHE'S crazy. People just hear different things. 

I didn't like Gigaton the first two listens. at ALL. I wrote a scathing review on FB that made my friends think I had been kidnapped. But after a few more listens, on HEADPHONES, I started to like it....then I started to love it. But hey, I understand why anyone who likes/dislikes something. It's all subjective. I think most people here are open to that. 

Falling Down

stuckinline said:

Best: Tie between varied set lists and bootlegs
Worst: Adding the B3 organ.

Good call on the B3!!!

JimFletcherPearlJam

1. Ten 

2. Yield

3. Riot Act

4. No Code

5. Versus

6. Vitalogy

7. Gigaton

8. Avocado

9. Binaural

10. Backspacer

11. Lightning Bolt

JimFletcherPearlJam

Numbers 1 and 11 are easy. It's tougher in between though. 

lastexitlondon

JimFletcherPearlJam said:

1. Ten 

2. Yield

3. Riot Act

4. No Code

5. Versus

6. Vitalogy

7. Gigaton

8. Avocado

9. Binaural

10. Backspacer

11. Lightning Bolt

Very good. I would move binaural up but very near mine 

cp3iverson

Was bound to evolve into an album ranking lol

Tier 1: Ten, No Code, Yield, Vs
Tier 2:  Backspacer, Gigaton, Vitalogy, Binaural
Tier 3:  Riot Act, Lightning Bolt
Tier 4:  self-titled.  

drakeheuer14

cp3iverson said:

Was bound to evolve into an album ranking lol

Which makes no sense based on the question

pbultimate

Best: fan club tickets tied with varying setlists. Finishing Wrigley 2013. 

Worst:  maybe I’m a homer, but there’s not much I can criticize. Most decisions don’t effect me and the ones that have, have been positive. (Raleigh cancelled resulting in travel hiccups, but I ended up with band signed tickets). 

cp3iverson

drakeheuer14 said:

cp3iverson said:

Was bound to evolve into an album ranking lol

Which makes no sense based on the question

Yes but you saw where the thread went fairly quickly in regards to “worst decisions”

thomascbullock

JimFletcherPearlJam said:

Numbers 1 and 11 are easy. It's tougher in between though. 

Your bottom three are also my bottom three but definitely not in that order.

Go Beavers

Mike's Stevie Ray Vaughn hat phase was a bad idea.

Lost In Ohio

CopperTom said:

Best: Official Bootlegs

Worst: Years of poor communication with its fanbase.

There's times when I really wonder how many people 10C has hired since 2000.

My member number is 279xxx and I joined in January 2003. A few years after that, Tim Bierman said something about how the club averages maybe 250-300k (IIRC) active members at any time.

Now they're well up above 600k...but still, there's a lot of empty numbers.

I get that they love small businesses, but they're really not a small business.

lastexitlondon

Go Beavers said:

Mike's Stevie Ray Vaughn hat phase was a bad idea.

All hats have not been right to me. Eds fedora jeffs recent long top hat thing.  I don't get it. Not  my head though  so crack on lads

PJPants

Best:  Different setlist every show + new art (poster) every show
Worst:  Eddie smoking cigarettes

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

it would honestly turn me off too. good thing I'm not a fan of kid rock or ted nugent. however, it's a tad surprising, since this band's politics have been front and centre from the literal "big bang" of the band. maybe people's politics changed over the years since then, and then it started to bug them?

I don’t think politics were the focus of their music for the first 10 years, with the exception of a couple songs. Maybe on-stage talks or wiring “pro-choice” on his arm, but just listening to the first several albums it’s more about anger and lost love than politics.
Alive, Breath, Release, Y-Led, RVM, Elderly Woman, GTF, Present Tense, I got Id, etc are all amazing songs despite whatever you’re political views are.

HughFreakingDillon

pbultimate said:

Best: fan club tickets tied with varying setlists. Finishing Wrigley 2013. 

Worst:  maybe I’m a homer, but there’s not much I can criticize. Most decisions don’t effect me and the ones that have, have been positive. (Raleigh cancelled resulting in travel hiccups, but I ended up with band signed tickets). 

cool. do tell! 

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it would honestly turn me off too. good thing I'm not a fan of kid rock or ted nugent. however, it's a tad surprising, since this band's politics have been front and centre from the literal "big bang" of the band. maybe people's politics changed over the years since then, and then it started to bug them?

I don’t think politics were the focus of their music for the first 10 years, with the exception of a couple songs. Maybe on-stage talks or wiring “pro-choice” on his arm, but just listening to the first several albums it’s more about anger and lost love than politics.
Alive, Breath, Release, Y-Led, RVM, Elderly Woman, GTF, Present Tense, I got Id, etc are all amazing songs despite whatever you’re political views are.

you're right, WMA was the big one from recorded output, I should have clarified that it was more their on stage banter that made their politics easy to identify.