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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    Meanwhile all my Zinsser Primers are up 50%
    A gallon on rust oleum is costing my store 49-$56 depending on color. 

    I have no idea how anyone can afford anything right now. 
    Dude I'm glad I don't have any painting to do right now.  
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?
    So do they want Biden to be a real socialist and tell private industry to do or not?  I'm so confused with all this biden blaming.  Oil prices...blame biden...groceries...blame biden...good grief.  If Biden started making companies increase production and or produce certain products they would be even madder.  A no win situation for sure.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    Why is it suddenly government’s role to fix a problem? After all, we’ve been told since Ronny Rayguns that, “government is the problem.”

    Anyway, I heard Hillary is pregnant and is hoarding all the baby formula. She’s storing it in the basement of Comet Pizza.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,358
    edited May 2022
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?

    its in the gift article I posted. As I recall from the article,  October of last year complaints by an Abbott employee were levied to FDA. They did nothing until Dec or Jan when they inspected the facility? Then in Feb after review of the inspection it was shut down and recall issued for certain batches of the potentially contaminated product.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    mickeyrat said:
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?

    its in the gift article I posted. As I recall from the article,  October of last year complaints by an Abbott employee were levied to FDA. They did nothing until Dec or Jan when they inspected the facility? Then in Feb after review of the inspection it was shut down and recall issued for certain batches of the potentially contaminated product.
    Yes the whistleblower and it says the FDA didn't respond quick enough about it.  That plant only closed down 3 months ago, February, like you said.  I was just wondering how he comes up with a shortage for a year now?

    Some people are out to lunch on Biden.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,358
    mickeyrat said:
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?

    its in the gift article I posted. As I recall from the article,  October of last year complaints by an Abbott employee were levied to FDA. They did nothing until Dec or Jan when they inspected the facility? Then in Feb after review of the inspection it was shut down and recall issued for certain batches of the potentially contaminated product.
    Yes the whistleblower and it says the FDA didn't respond quick enough about it.  That plant only closed down 3 months ago, February, like you said.  I was just wondering how he comes up with a shortage for a year now?

    Some people are out to lunch on Biden.

    IF there was its possible that was covid related, maybe. but would have extended further back. Think about it, Biden has been Pres for 16 months at this point
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    How many vacancies were/are there at the FDA or any other regulatory agency that Biden inherited? What were those agencies level of funding during the POOTWH Administration? People seem to have forgotten Steve O and the dismantling of the Administrative State and how they gutted just about every agency. To build a wall.

    People are dumb. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,931
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Meanwhile all my Zinsser Primers are up 50%
    A gallon on rust oleum is costing my store 49-$56 depending on color. 

    I have no idea how anyone can afford anything right now. 
    Dude I'm glad I don't have any painting to do right now.  
    Painting or building. Any construction 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,156
    It’s madness to claim to want a small government and then claim these shortages are due to government 
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Meanwhile all my Zinsser Primers are up 50%
    A gallon on rust oleum is costing my store 49-$56 depending on color. 

    I have no idea how anyone can afford anything right now. 
    Dude I'm glad I don't have any painting to do right now.  
    Painting or building. Any construction 
    Luckily I work in industrial construction so someone is always paying as long as it means hitting those target dates!
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,931
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Meanwhile all my Zinsser Primers are up 50%
    A gallon on rust oleum is costing my store 49-$56 depending on color. 

    I have no idea how anyone can afford anything right now. 
    Dude I'm glad I don't have any painting to do right now.  
    Painting or building. Any construction 
    Luckily I work in industrial construction so someone is always paying as long as it means hitting those target dates!
    Haha! Nice. Yea it’s insane. 
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,639
    It’s madness to claim to want a small government and then claim these shortages are due to government 
    Unless it is the government’s actions that led to it or the government is preventing something from happening.  
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,652
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,652
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?

    Dementia Joe Strikes again. 

    SMH
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?

    Dementia Joe Strikes again. 

    SMH
    Well that surely didn't answer my question and yes, I called you Shirley.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    edited May 2022
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?

    Dementia Joe Strikes again. 

    SMH
    Well that surely didn't answer my question and yes, I called you Shirley.
    Sounds like “politics” to me. And I’ll give you three guesses why the repubs voted against the second bill. Funny thing is, hilarious actually, is the Dems passed the CURES Act and Obama signed it in December of 2016 and then who came along and let it languish for 4 years? I’ll give you four guesses. Then dementia Joe began implementing it immediately upon taking office but you know, Covid and a shit ton of other messes that were left behind. Hey! But they own the libs!

    Earlier on Wednesday, Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) sent a memo to all House GOP offices recommending that members vote against the legislation. He argued that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) brought up the bill “in hopes of covering up the administration’s ineptitude by throwing additional money at the FDA with no plan to actually fix the problem, all while failing to hold the FDA accountable.”

    The House on Wednesday also passed the Access to Baby Formula Act in a 414-9 vote that was largely bipartisan. Five Republicans and one Democrat did not vote.

    The bill calls for permanently relaxing restrictions on the kinds of baby formula that individuals in the federal low-income assistance program for women, children and infants are allowed to purchase. The program is formally known as the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children, commonly referred to as the WIC program.

    The only opposition to the legislation came from the Republican Party: the “no” votes were from Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Texas), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Clay Higgins (La.), Thomas Massie (Ky.) and Chip Roy (Texas).

    There was no overlap in the two groups of GOP outlier votes.

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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?

    Dementia Joe Strikes again. 

    SMH
    Well that surely didn't answer my question and yes, I called you Shirley.
    Sounds like “politics” to me. And I’ll give you three guesses why the repubs voted against the second bill. Funny thing is, hilarious actually, is the Dems passed the CURES Act and Obama signed it in December of 2016 and then who came along and let it languish for 4 years? I’ll give you four guesses. Then dementia Joe began implementing it immediately upon taking office but you know, Covid and a shit ton of other messes that were left behind. Hey! But they own the libs!

    Earlier on Wednesday, Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) sent a memo to all House GOP offices recommending that members vote against the legislation. He argued that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) brought up the bill “in hopes of covering up the administration’s ineptitude by throwing additional money at the FDA with no plan to actually fix the problem, all while failing to hold the FDA accountable.”

    The House on Wednesday also passed the Access to Baby Formula Act in a 414-9 vote that was largely bipartisan. Five Republicans and one Democrat did not vote.

    The bill calls for permanently relaxing restrictions on the kinds of baby formula that individuals in the federal low-income assistance program for women, children and infants are allowed to purchase. The program is formally known as the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children, commonly referred to as the WIC program.

    The only opposition to the legislation came from the Republican Party: the “no” votes were from Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Texas), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Clay Higgins (La.), Thomas Massie (Ky.) and Chip Roy (Texas).

    There was no overlap in the two groups of GOP outlier votes.

    Very much so.  GOP wants smaller govt and regulations but when FDA is too small to keep up it slams current admin that isn't theirs.

    I'm guessing that #45 reduced the FDA staff or budget?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    Conservatives: Joe Biden is to blame for the baby formula shortage. 

    Also conservatives:





    FuckIn’ Biden. SMH
    I wonder if there was anything else in the bill that the GOP didn't like?

    Dementia Joe Strikes again. 

    SMH
    Well that surely didn't answer my question and yes, I called you Shirley.
    Sounds like “politics” to me. And I’ll give you three guesses why the repubs voted against the second bill. Funny thing is, hilarious actually, is the Dems passed the CURES Act and Obama signed it in December of 2016 and then who came along and let it languish for 4 years? I’ll give you four guesses. Then dementia Joe began implementing it immediately upon taking office but you know, Covid and a shit ton of other messes that were left behind. Hey! But they own the libs!

    Earlier on Wednesday, Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) sent a memo to all House GOP offices recommending that members vote against the legislation. He argued that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) brought up the bill “in hopes of covering up the administration’s ineptitude by throwing additional money at the FDA with no plan to actually fix the problem, all while failing to hold the FDA accountable.”

    The House on Wednesday also passed the Access to Baby Formula Act in a 414-9 vote that was largely bipartisan. Five Republicans and one Democrat did not vote.

    The bill calls for permanently relaxing restrictions on the kinds of baby formula that individuals in the federal low-income assistance program for women, children and infants are allowed to purchase. The program is formally known as the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children, commonly referred to as the WIC program.

    The only opposition to the legislation came from the Republican Party: the “no” votes were from Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Texas), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Clay Higgins (La.), Thomas Massie (Ky.) and Chip Roy (Texas).

    There was no overlap in the two groups of GOP outlier votes.

    Very much so.  GOP wants smaller govt and regulations but when FDA is too small to keep up it slams current admin that isn't theirs.

    I'm guessing that #45 reduced the FDA staff or budget?
    Think about what transpired for the four years of POOTWH, the active dismantling of the “Administrative State,” through inaction, hiring people who had no business being in the position they were in, slow walking hiring and policy initiatives and refusing to carry out, enact or enforce laws passed by Congress. His first impeachment over Ukraine is an example. However, it was trickled, sprinkled and done in every aspect of the executive branch where they had authority to do it. This is this nation’s future, everything is broken, purposely, and the 1% and their puppets don’t suffer because they’re not affected. Good fucking luck.

    Maybe there could be congressional investigations and hearings on why this is happening, formula shortage, inflation, you know, a root cause analysis and find solutions but, you know, 1/6 and one major political party not really interested in governing or helping people, unless you’re wealthy, white and “Christian.”

    Good fucking luck indeed.

    And, I’ll add, where does all this lead? You’re seeing it in Russia. Putin on the ritz got what he wanted without firing a shot nor getting into a hot war with the US for a few million dollars spent on bots and troll farms to flood social media and influence an election. No trillions spent on nuclear weapons or huge, well equipped and trained standing army. The US under POOTWH and his minions in 2022 and 2024 will pillage and weaken the US so it resembles Russia and not other western style democracies. Don’t think it’ll happen? Just watch CPAC meet up in Hungry this summer and wait and see. It’s already started and it’s too late to stop it.

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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    mickeyrat said:
    Question about the baby formula.  Buddy of mine blames it on Biden and that this was known over a year ago that there was a shortage.

    I can't find anything that says this was going on for a year now?

    its in the gift article I posted. As I recall from the article,  October of last year complaints by an Abbott employee were levied to FDA. They did nothing until Dec or Jan when they inspected the facility? Then in Feb after review of the inspection it was shut down and recall issued for certain batches of the potentially contaminated product.
    Yes the whistleblower and it says the FDA didn't respond quick enough about it.  That plant only closed down 3 months ago, February, like you said.  I was just wondering how he comes up with a shortage for a year now?

    Some people are out to lunch on Biden.
    Just to be clear when the Jamestown settlers were all killed that wasn't just Obama's fault it was also Hillary and President Joe Biden's fault.

    But when every vaccine that ever saved a life was invented that was tfg
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    In my line of "work" liquor retail, we see all sorts of shortages...
    Red Breast
    Lagavulin
    Aperol 
    Campari 
    Chartreuse 
    High end Champagne
    High End Tequila
    Etc

    Very frustrating when customers don't get it
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,652
    In my line of "work" liquor retail, we see all sorts of shortages...
    Red Breast
    Lagavulin
    Aperol 
    Campari 
    Chartreuse 
    High end Champagne
    High End Tequila
    Etc

    Very frustrating when customers don't get it
    Most of my customers have been pretty understanding of how things currently are. 

    Our outside sales reps OTOH, those guys are living in a fantasy world. 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    In my line of "work" liquor retail, we see all sorts of shortages...
    Red Breast
    Lagavulin
    Aperol 
    Campari 
    Chartreuse 
    High end Champagne
    High End Tequila
    Etc

    Very frustrating when customers don't get it
    Still trying to find LaRue AC below mark ups lol!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    From Letter From an American:

    There are other legal cases in the news today, too, having to do with foreign influence during the Trump administration. The Department of Justice filed a civil enforcement action to force Stephen A. Wynn to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) as a foreign agent working for China. The Justice Department says that from at least June 2017 through at least August 2017, Wynn lobbied Trump and members of his administration to force out of the U.S. a Chinese national who was here for political asylum. Such a case is so exceedingly rare that the Department of Justice said it had not brought such a case in more than 30 years. Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen said, “Where a foreign government uses an American as its agent to influence policy decisions in the United States, FARA gives the American people a right to know.”  

    During this period, Wynn was one of four Republican National Committee finance chairs; the other three were Elliott Broidy, Michael Cohen, and Louis DeJoy. In 2020, Broidy pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws; he worked to win benefits for Chinese and Malaysian interests from the Trump administration. Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Louis DeJoy was appointed in May 2020 to head the United States Postal Service, where he made changes that appeared to be attempts to influence the 2020 election. Broidy recruited Wynn to work for China, thinking that Wynn’s work with the RNC, his business experience in China, and his friendship with Trump “would be helpful in getting access to Trump Administration officials.” 

    FARA scholar Carrie Levine tweeted: “So, to recap, DOJ is alleging that Wynn was contacting Trump administration officials to advocate for China while serving as RNC finance chair.” 

    In another case, a superseding indictment filed today in New York federal court accuses Trump’s good friend Thomas Barrack of accepting a pledge of $374 million from the United Arab Emirates while he was also illegally lobbying the administration for the UAE. 

    Today, in the wake of the Buffalo shooting, Miles Taylor—a member of Trump’s administration who warned anonymously of how dangerous Trump was—announced he was leaving the Republican Party and called on others to do the same. “In the wake of the mass shooting in Buffalo on Saturday,” he wrote, “it’s become glaringly obvious that my party no longer represents conservative values but in fact poses a threat to them—and to America.”

    Feel the rot and smell the stench. Buh, buh, buh, Hillary's emails. See? Barrack is corrupt! Oh, wrong one.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    From Letter From an American:

    There are other legal cases in the news today, too, having to do with foreign influence during the Trump administration. The Department of Justice filed a civil enforcement action to force Stephen A. Wynn to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) as a foreign agent working for China. The Justice Department says that from at least June 2017 through at least August 2017, Wynn lobbied Trump and members of his administration to force out of the U.S. a Chinese national who was here for political asylum. Such a case is so exceedingly rare that the Department of Justice said it had not brought such a case in more than 30 years. Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen said, “Where a foreign government uses an American as its agent to influence policy decisions in the United States, FARA gives the American people a right to know.”  

    During this period, Wynn was one of four Republican National Committee finance chairs; the other three were Elliott Broidy, Michael Cohen, and Louis DeJoy. In 2020, Broidy pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws; he worked to win benefits for Chinese and Malaysian interests from the Trump administration. Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Louis DeJoy was appointed in May 2020 to head the United States Postal Service, where he made changes that appeared to be attempts to influence the 2020 election. Broidy recruited Wynn to work for China, thinking that Wynn’s work with the RNC, his business experience in China, and his friendship with Trump “would be helpful in getting access to Trump Administration officials.” 

    FARA scholar Carrie Levine tweeted: “So, to recap, DOJ is alleging that Wynn was contacting Trump administration officials to advocate for China while serving as RNC finance chair.” 

    In another case, a superseding indictment filed today in New York federal court accuses Trump’s good friend Thomas Barrack of accepting a pledge of $374 million from the United Arab Emirates while he was also illegally lobbying the administration for the UAE. 

    Today, in the wake of the Buffalo shooting, Miles Taylor—a member of Trump’s administration who warned anonymously of how dangerous Trump was—announced he was leaving the Republican Party and called on others to do the same. “In the wake of the mass shooting in Buffalo on Saturday,” he wrote, “it’s become glaringly obvious that my party no longer represents conservative values but in fact poses a threat to them—and to America.”

    Feel the rot and smell the stench. Buh, buh, buh, Hillary's emails. See? Barrack is corrupt! Oh, wrong one.
    I totally agree that the highlighted belongs in the Supply chain thread... :s
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    From Letter From an American:

    There are other legal cases in the news today, too, having to do with foreign influence during the Trump administration. The Department of Justice filed a civil enforcement action to force Stephen A. Wynn to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) as a foreign agent working for China. The Justice Department says that from at least June 2017 through at least August 2017, Wynn lobbied Trump and members of his administration to force out of the U.S. a Chinese national who was here for political asylum. Such a case is so exceedingly rare that the Department of Justice said it had not brought such a case in more than 30 years. Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen said, “Where a foreign government uses an American as its agent to influence policy decisions in the United States, FARA gives the American people a right to know.”  

    During this period, Wynn was one of four Republican National Committee finance chairs; the other three were Elliott Broidy, Michael Cohen, and Louis DeJoy. In 2020, Broidy pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws; he worked to win benefits for Chinese and Malaysian interests from the Trump administration. Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Louis DeJoy was appointed in May 2020 to head the United States Postal Service, where he made changes that appeared to be attempts to influence the 2020 election. Broidy recruited Wynn to work for China, thinking that Wynn’s work with the RNC, his business experience in China, and his friendship with Trump “would be helpful in getting access to Trump Administration officials.” 

    FARA scholar Carrie Levine tweeted: “So, to recap, DOJ is alleging that Wynn was contacting Trump administration officials to advocate for China while serving as RNC finance chair.” 

    In another case, a superseding indictment filed today in New York federal court accuses Trump’s good friend Thomas Barrack of accepting a pledge of $374 million from the United Arab Emirates while he was also illegally lobbying the administration for the UAE. 

    Today, in the wake of the Buffalo shooting, Miles Taylor—a member of Trump’s administration who warned anonymously of how dangerous Trump was—announced he was leaving the Republican Party and called on others to do the same. “In the wake of the mass shooting in Buffalo on Saturday,” he wrote, “it’s become glaringly obvious that my party no longer represents conservative values but in fact poses a threat to them—and to America.”

    Feel the rot and smell the stench. Buh, buh, buh, Hillary's emails. See? Barrack is corrupt! Oh, wrong one.
    I totally agree that the highlighted belongs in the Supply chain thread... :s
    The Buffalo reference is qualified by the second half of his quoted words. Would he have said that in the absence of Buffalo happening? Who knows. But if Buffalo hadn’t happened, the second part of his statement is still true. Which was my point, as it relates to my previous posts. I wasn’t trying to turn your supply chain thread into a Buffalo thread, FWIW.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,389
    From Letter From an American:

    There are other legal cases in the news today, too, having to do with foreign influence during the Trump administration. The Department of Justice filed a civil enforcement action to force Stephen A. Wynn to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) as a foreign agent working for China. The Justice Department says that from at least June 2017 through at least August 2017, Wynn lobbied Trump and members of his administration to force out of the U.S. a Chinese national who was here for political asylum. Such a case is so exceedingly rare that the Department of Justice said it had not brought such a case in more than 30 years. Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen said, “Where a foreign government uses an American as its agent to influence policy decisions in the United States, FARA gives the American people a right to know.”  

    During this period, Wynn was one of four Republican National Committee finance chairs; the other three were Elliott Broidy, Michael Cohen, and Louis DeJoy. In 2020, Broidy pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws; he worked to win benefits for Chinese and Malaysian interests from the Trump administration. Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Louis DeJoy was appointed in May 2020 to head the United States Postal Service, where he made changes that appeared to be attempts to influence the 2020 election. Broidy recruited Wynn to work for China, thinking that Wynn’s work with the RNC, his business experience in China, and his friendship with Trump “would be helpful in getting access to Trump Administration officials.” 

    FARA scholar Carrie Levine tweeted: “So, to recap, DOJ is alleging that Wynn was contacting Trump administration officials to advocate for China while serving as RNC finance chair.” 

    In another case, a superseding indictment filed today in New York federal court accuses Trump’s good friend Thomas Barrack of accepting a pledge of $374 million from the United Arab Emirates while he was also illegally lobbying the administration for the UAE. 

    Today, in the wake of the Buffalo shooting, Miles Taylor—a member of Trump’s administration who warned anonymously of how dangerous Trump was—announced he was leaving the Republican Party and called on others to do the same. “In the wake of the mass shooting in Buffalo on Saturday,” he wrote, “it’s become glaringly obvious that my party no longer represents conservative values but in fact poses a threat to them—and to America.”

    Feel the rot and smell the stench. Buh, buh, buh, Hillary's emails. See? Barrack is corrupt! Oh, wrong one.
    I totally agree that the highlighted belongs in the Supply chain thread... :s
    The Buffalo reference is qualified by the second half of his quoted words. Would he have said that in the absence of Buffalo happening? Who knows. But if Buffalo hadn’t happened, the second part of his statement is still true. Which was my point, as it relates to my previous posts. I wasn’t trying to turn your supply chain thread into a Buffalo thread, FWIW.
    tongue in cheek comment from me Fax.

    He is saying let Rome burn for the good of the party I guess?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    From Letter From an American:

    There are other legal cases in the news today, too, having to do with foreign influence during the Trump administration. The Department of Justice filed a civil enforcement action to force Stephen A. Wynn to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) as a foreign agent working for China. The Justice Department says that from at least June 2017 through at least August 2017, Wynn lobbied Trump and members of his administration to force out of the U.S. a Chinese national who was here for political asylum. Such a case is so exceedingly rare that the Department of Justice said it had not brought such a case in more than 30 years. Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen said, “Where a foreign government uses an American as its agent to influence policy decisions in the United States, FARA gives the American people a right to know.”  

    During this period, Wynn was one of four Republican National Committee finance chairs; the other three were Elliott Broidy, Michael Cohen, and Louis DeJoy. In 2020, Broidy pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws; he worked to win benefits for Chinese and Malaysian interests from the Trump administration. Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Louis DeJoy was appointed in May 2020 to head the United States Postal Service, where he made changes that appeared to be attempts to influence the 2020 election. Broidy recruited Wynn to work for China, thinking that Wynn’s work with the RNC, his business experience in China, and his friendship with Trump “would be helpful in getting access to Trump Administration officials.” 

    FARA scholar Carrie Levine tweeted: “So, to recap, DOJ is alleging that Wynn was contacting Trump administration officials to advocate for China while serving as RNC finance chair.” 

    In another case, a superseding indictment filed today in New York federal court accuses Trump’s good friend Thomas Barrack of accepting a pledge of $374 million from the United Arab Emirates while he was also illegally lobbying the administration for the UAE. 

    Today, in the wake of the Buffalo shooting, Miles Taylor—a member of Trump’s administration who warned anonymously of how dangerous Trump was—announced he was leaving the Republican Party and called on others to do the same. “In the wake of the mass shooting in Buffalo on Saturday,” he wrote, “it’s become glaringly obvious that my party no longer represents conservative values but in fact poses a threat to them—and to America.”

    Feel the rot and smell the stench. Buh, buh, buh, Hillary's emails. See? Barrack is corrupt! Oh, wrong one.
    I totally agree that the highlighted belongs in the Supply chain thread... :s
    The Buffalo reference is qualified by the second half of his quoted words. Would he have said that in the absence of Buffalo happening? Who knows. But if Buffalo hadn’t happened, the second part of his statement is still true. Which was my point, as it relates to my previous posts. I wasn’t trying to turn your supply chain thread into a Buffalo thread, FWIW.
    tongue in cheek comment from me Fax.

    He is saying let Rome burn for the good of the party I guess?
    Let Rome burn? Randy Paul is pouring gas on it and standing by with his Bic lighter.
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