America's Gun Violence #2

Cropduster-80

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

Isn’t the 2nd amendment partially to protect citizens from government tyranny?

banning guns from anywhere where current or former government official are located renders that justification moot, right?

tbergs

What we had confirmed at Uvalde is that the police are ok shooting unarmed minorities who "may" have a weapon, but when confronted with someone actively shooting at them and little fucking children, they retreat because they could get shot. How pathetic. Way to reinforce what half the country already think about you after the numerous police brutality incidents the last several years. 

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?

That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one.  I won't lie.

crossed your mind? or was part of your fantasy?

What are you a fucking sicko?  I wanted someone to cause carnage?

sorry....I didn't mean that and didn't think it through. I just meant the part about having to respond to a shooter. The carnage mentioned by Halifax was meant as a joke. I thought that translated.

Gern Blansten

tbergs said:

What we had confirmed at Uvalde is that the police are ok shooting unarmed minorities who "may" have a weapon, but when confronted with someone actively shooting at them and little fucking children, they retreat because they could get shot. How pathetic. Way to reinforce what half the country already think about you after the numerous police brutality incidents the last several years. 

different cops though....not a fair comparison

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?

That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one.  I won't lie.

It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.

What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.

I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything.  You shouldn't have to live life that way.  I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC.  There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot.  I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.

Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...

Have fun among yourselves.

PP193448

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

mace1229

tbergs said:

What we had confirmed at Uvalde is that the police are ok shooting unarmed minorities who "may" have a weapon, but when confronted with someone actively shooting at them and little fucking children, they retreat because they could get shot. How pathetic. Way to reinforce what half the country already think about you after the numerous police brutality incidents the last several years. 

And we don’t know if that is the case or not yet.

HughFreakingDillon

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

cincybearcat

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?

That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one.  I won't lie.

It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.

What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.

I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything.  You shouldn't have to live life that way.  I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC.  There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot.  I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.

Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...

Have fun among yourselves.

Yeah the convo was headed completely in the right direction when we were talking about kids getting shot at school.. but now....shit, better get out of here and head to Houston.

tbergs

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

What we had confirmed at Uvalde is that the police are ok shooting unarmed minorities who "may" have a weapon, but when confronted with someone actively shooting at them and little fucking children, they retreat because they could get shot. How pathetic. Way to reinforce what half the country already think about you after the numerous police brutality incidents the last several years. 

different cops though....not a fair comparison

I understand that, but law enforcement has had the opportunity for years to change that stigma. They are the ones who keep shooting themselves in the foot (or shooting others). It just shines a light on the inadequacies of policing as it exists in this country. You don't think half the country is going to be thinking what I just stated?

PP193448

HughFreakingDillon said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

You forgot airports, hospitals, government buildings, and anywhere that posts no guns allowed signs…

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

I keep thinking over and over something Henry Rollins quoted Black Flag bassist Chuck Dukowski once having said with an ironic twist,  "Why don't we just arm everyone and see who is the last one standing."

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?

That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one.  I won't lie.

It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.

What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.

I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything.  You shouldn't have to live life that way.  I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC.  There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot.  I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.

Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...

Have fun among yourselves.

I’m not afraid to do things, not at all. I do those things regularly. Except now, they’re more anxiety producing and less enjoyable because my brain is calculating the “what ifs,” and if A then B, then C and as far as I can go with options. All in about 10-20 seconds of thoughts flashing through my mind and it repeats as the situation changes, say every time the doors open or new people enter the car. Mostly because I know how easy it is to get weapons of war and how vulnerable we are to those weapons going about our daily lives. So yea, thanks NRA and repubs, hypocrites that you are. And I’m not the only one feeling this way. Far from it.

tbergs

mace1229 said:

tbergs said:

What we had confirmed at Uvalde is that the police are ok shooting unarmed minorities who "may" have a weapon, but when confronted with someone actively shooting at them and little fucking children, they retreat because they could get shot. How pathetic. Way to reinforce what half the country already think about you after the numerous police brutality incidents the last several years. 

And we don’t know if that is the case or not yet.

We don't for sure, but based off that sketchy press conference yesterday, unless some information changes (again), I think we're looking at a major failure. Look, that DPS rep, the chief and any officer involved, know exactly what went down at this point. Between video and live accounts, they know, but what they are trying to do is make sure they have their story bulletproof. Once the dust settles, I'll be surprised if LE and the local politicians aren't all hanging the blame on an unlocked door and a mental health problem. They will do anything to push the blame.

I assume that Uvalde doesn't have body cams since I haven't heard that mentioned yet.

Gern Blansten

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

I keep thinking over and over something Henry Rollins quoted Black Flag bassist Chuck Dukowski once having said with an ironic twist,  "Why don't we just arm everyone and see who is the last one standing."

I have made this argument about open carry. At some point the cops won't be able to tell who the good and bad are. None of us will. We will just have to walk around with our guns pointed at everyone hoping we get the jump on them.

g under p

Wait you mean to tell me someone 18 can buy that many rounds and automatic rifles as if one is going to war. I hope that was not all at one time. That's crazy, I hope that's not the the case here in Florida. 

✌️

Cropduster-80

g under p said:

Wait you mean to tell me someone 18 can buy that many rounds and automatic rifles as if one is going to war. I hope that was not all at one time. That's crazy, I hope that's not the the case here in Florida. 

✌️

Yes. It’s not an automatic rifle though. 

I can go buy 50,000 rounds of ammo right now. Doesn’t even raise an eyebrow 

pretty sure they don’t even have covid related supply chain limits.  As in one box per customer. I remember when that was the case for toilet paper 

HughFreakingDillon

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

You forgot airports, hospitals, government buildings, and anywhere that posts no guns allowed signs…

Interesting. I thought criminals didn't obey rules and laws. 

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

This isn't gun safety...it's a contradiction of their usual narrative that mutually assured destruction works on an individual level.

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

They tell us that more guns are the answer for keeping us safe. But don't bring it to the convention that touts that message.

Yes...hypocrisy

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

A tad hypocritical, don’t you think?

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Hobbes said:

NRA is banning guns at their own convention. Laughable. I understand it’s the request of the secret service as trump will be in attendance, for his safety. Bans keep people safe, apparently. 

I think it’s horrible timing and bad taste to not move or postpone the event. But you can’t fault anyone for enforcing no guns at an event with a former president, even if it is the NRA.
Its ironic, but that’s about all.

So, any gun show I have been to, you have to check in your weapon and make it safe.  They will ziptie or lock it while you bring it into the show.  no one is allowed to have a loadable gun or a loaded one.

I don't see this NRA event any different from one of the gun shows.

Yeah there is no surprise...just hypocrisy coming from the organization that says we are safer when we are all packing.  Unless you are attending an NRA convention.

They preached gun safety for years and since they actually do it now it's hypocrisy?

advocating for access to guns and possession of guns literally everywhere. just not among themselves when they meet.  yes, its the definition of hypocrisy.

Former president will be there, people for congress...  It's a perfect setup to ambush someone you aren't fond of.  Guns aren't allowed in a courtroom for much the same thing.

kind of like....defenseless third graders at a school?

Guns aren’t allowed in schools

but shouldn't they be? I mean, if more guns in the answer, NRA conventions and court rooms should allow guns in them. Otherwise, you're just sitting ducks! 

I keep thinking over and over something Henry Rollins quoted Black Flag bassist Chuck Dukowski once having said with an ironic twist,  "Why don't we just arm everyone and see who is the last one standing."

I have made this argument about open carry. At some point the cops won't be able to tell who the good and bad are. None of us will. We will just have to walk around with our guns pointed at everyone hoping we get the jump on them.

Sadly, yet another reason why I more and more become reclusive. Not that I'm fishing for sympathy- I just don't trust strangers any more. 

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?

That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one.  I won't lie.

It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.

What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.

This crossed my mind everyday and I’m in a city that has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Go figure.