A passing thought from Dave Abbruzzese

HesCalledDyer

Little Italy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

Dave A was not responsible for the popularity of Pearl Jam.  Jesus Christ.

F Me In The Brain

HesCalledDyer said:

Little Italy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

Dave A was not responsible for the popularity of Pearl Jam.  Jesus Christ.

He wasn't either.  I think his counterpart, Little Nicky, may have played a larger part than Jesus.

PB11041

lastexitlondon

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

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bmurray06

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

Guns N' Roses memorable for sure, but not always for the right reasons. Enlighten me this Spiritual Chaos --- Wasn't late 90's more memorable for GnRs for not making music and being late or no shows for concerts than anything else? Also wasn't Jack Irons more substantial for RHCP (who actually created music throughout their career vs. GnR) in their early years than Dave was after PJ fired him?

Late 90s was more memorable for GoldenEye on the Nintendo 64, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, the last theatrical outing in the franchise: Hellraiser: Bloodline and Axl Rose being so hurt by Dave A leaving he had to destroy an aquarium. 

No one remembers late 90's GnRs with Dave A. Lauryn Hill killed it then. Radiohead's OK Computer was revolutionizing the industry. Hell, even Marcy's Playground and The Verve were doing better things than GnRs at that point. Goldeneye was the best videogame at the time. Also Yield killed it with Jack Irons! Axl Rose was just hurt by his own massive ego. Dude I love listening to old bootlegs with Dave A behind the kit. But he's not the reason why this band is still incredible to listen to to this day. With or without their flaws.

Poncier

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

nicknyr15

HesCalledDyer said:

Little Italy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

Dave A was not responsible for the popularity of Pearl Jam.  Jesus Christ.

You can’t make this shit up. 

OceansJenny

Dave was one of many drummers who auditioned for GnR when it was Axl reassembling a band.

Apparently at the time he wanted to “obtain a sound between Nine Inch Nails and Pearl Jam“ which makes sense why he called members of those bands to audition.

mrussel1

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

YOU'RE RUINING MY LIFE! 

HughFreakingDillon

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DewieCox

HesCalledDyer said:

Little Italy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

Dave A was not responsible for the popularity of Pearl Jam.  Jesus Christ.

That’s not what he said. There’s a lot to be said for how much energy he helped deliver in those early shows. Next to Ed, there’s really no one more important in that aspect.



What I find much odder than Dave A’s hangup, is the vitriol directed at him.

Spiritual_Chaos

OceansJenny said:

“obtain a sound between Nine Inch Nails and Pearl Jam“ 

https://youtu.be/VcANDJH0hL8

mrussel1

DewieCox said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Little Italy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

Dave A was not responsible for the popularity of Pearl Jam.  Jesus Christ.

That’s not what he said. There’s a lot to be said for how much energy he helped deliver in those early shows. Next to Ed, there’s really no one more important in that aspect.



What I find much odder than Dave A’s hangup, is the vitriol directed at him.

I think it goes both ways.  On my videos that I post, there are countless posts extolling Dave and hammering MC.  To me, he had his time and place and it was great.  But that's over.  PJ decided either (or both) 1. That couldn't get along with Dave and his views 2. They wanted to be a guitar driven band, and the drums Dave played were the driving force, with Ed's lyrics.  That's not their style and maybe they didn't want it to be that way. 

HughFreakingDillon

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

static111

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

They hired Matt after Jack left, no?

Merkin Baller

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

They hired Matt after Jack left, no?

& also after Soundgarden broke up. 

HughFreakingDillon

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

They hired Matt after Jack left, no?

sorry, yes, I misspoke. lol

mfc2006

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

LOL

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

No... not A+B.  I'm saying there could be more than just the personality issue behind the move.  It may have been a dissatisfaction with the style considering it changed so dramatically after he left (live shows). 

2-feign-reluctance

mfc2006 said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

LOL

Yep, that's a few threads on the board lately. A microwaved flying pork chop to the face. 

mca47

There seems to be a clear reason why his drumming career didn't continue to flourish after the band.  Since his departure, I'm sure there are hundreds of bands that could have used a new drummer, and one who used to be in the biggest band in the world.  Pretty sure it has to do with Dave...and not his skillset.  

HughFreakingDillon

mca47 said:

There seems to be a clear reason why his drumming career didn't continue to flourish after the band.  Since his departure, I'm sure there are hundreds of bands that could have used a new drummer, and one who used to be in the biggest band in the world.  Pretty sure it has to do with Dave...and not his skillset.  

This is something I've always found so confusing. it's pretty rare for a musician to get fired or quit a massive band and not get picked up somewhere else. but don't you think, if it is what you are suggesting, it would be kind of a well known opinion, and not just conjecture on our part?

JH6056

HughFreakingDillon said:

mca47 said:

There seems to be a clear reason why his drumming career didn't continue to flourish after the band.  Since his departure, I'm sure there are hundreds of bands that could have used a new drummer, and one who used to be in the biggest band in the world.  Pretty sure it has to do with Dave...and not his skillset.  

This is something I've always found so confusing. it's pretty rare for a musician to get fired or quit a massive band and not get picked up somewhere else. but don't you think, if it is what you are suggesting, it would be kind of a well known opinion, and not just conjecture on our part?

People with class don't talk about the negatives of another musician like that, out in the open.  Now, plenty of people don't have class, so sure, maybe more would be in the public ear about it, but mostly I'd guess it's the kind of thing where you just choose not to engage and keep it moving. That's my guess for why, if that's also part of why he wasn't in any other successful bands, why we might not hear about it if it was his personality or his playing or both.

Definitely seems that's why PJ rarely comments on it and never talks about negatives in ages...  At the time of his departure though, of course questions are going to be asked and obviously something was wrong, or else why make the change.  But what the details were, and how it's seen now, and why he didn't get picked up by other successful bands.... who knows, but musicians with class won't comment on it publicly.

Gern Blansten

I follow him on FB.  Seems like a straight up, intelligent, fairly liberal guy.

5

Dave A is a sweet guy and I don't get why any PJ fan has anything negative to say about him.  Dave was so nice to fans so how about lets just drop this.  I would love to see him sit in one day.  If you don"t have something nice to say about him just keep it to yourself 
its not like anything posted here is going to make a difference in the matter anyway.

mrussel1

Eye roll...

F Me In The Brain

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This place is always good for some laughs.

WW187806

1st. Cant believe this thread made it to 5 pages. 2nd and this constantly comes up with the regs on fan board- always reminiscing, taking for granted all we have. We are LUCKY to have Matt.