A passing thought from Dave Abbruzzese

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

Matt Cameron is a far superior drummer. Period. 

Maybe. I don't know how to quantify that. He drummed on Riot Act, and that is the best PJ album so...

Haha. Honestly there’s no way since everything is subjective. I’m a drummer and my preference is MC by far. Just my opinion though. 

mvw

JH6056 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

DewieCox said:

F Me In The Brain said:

How many other musicians make such a big deal out of being kicked out of a band 20+ years later?
There are likely examples but I don't know any.  

I think it’s about as easy naming someone from a band that is successful after their daparture.

There's plenty of examples of that....

Peter Gabriel after leaving Genesis.

Ozzy Osbourne after leaving Black Sabbath.

Dr. Dre and Ice Cube after leaving NWA.

Beyoncé and Justin Timberlake after leaving their respective pop groups.

Are you answering the actual question with this list?  I didn't think any of those people were "kicked out" of their bands, didn't they all LEAVE those bands?  I mean Beyonce, Destiny's Child was HER band! She pretty much went solo, and definitley didn't get kicked out.

Were Peter Gabriel and Ozzy kicked out of Genesis & Black Sabbath?  Were Dre or Ice Cube kicked out of NWA?

Dave Mustaine 

JH6056

mvw said:

JH6056 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

DewieCox said:

F Me In The Brain said:

How many other musicians make such a big deal out of being kicked out of a band 20+ years later?
There are likely examples but I don't know any.  

I think it’s about as easy naming someone from a band that is successful after their daparture.

There's plenty of examples of that....

Peter Gabriel after leaving Genesis.

Ozzy Osbourne after leaving Black Sabbath.

Dr. Dre and Ice Cube after leaving NWA.

Beyoncé and Justin Timberlake after leaving their respective pop groups.

Are you answering the actual question with this list?  I didn't think any of those people were "kicked out" of their bands, didn't they all LEAVE those bands?  I mean Beyonce, Destiny's Child was HER band! She pretty much went solo, and definitley didn't get kicked out.

Were Peter Gabriel and Ozzy kicked out of Genesis & Black Sabbath?  Were Dre or Ice Cube kicked out of NWA?

Dave Mustaine 

Yup, I think we've established in this convo that every question asked in this thread, "Dave Mustaine" is an appropriate answer.

But you're absolutely right, he's an example of being kicked out and having a public grouse about it for decades.

There's a whole other convo we could also have, about musicians who did do well, maybe even really well, but are still bitter that some of their contemporaries did SO MUCH MORE BETTER.  Or, better-er.  Or whatever the right word is LOL!

A bald guy who headlined the 2nd day of SHN comes to mind... So does the singer of the Boomtown Rats...  But that's a very different convo, sorry, off track here...

OceansJenny

circlesdown said:

All I’m saying is, I just wish he would say something nice about Dave.  

At the RRHOF speech Ed said he was a “hell of a drummer” in an earnest way. 

They just don’t get along personally. I’m sure everyone has someone in their life who they can respect their work but can’t stand to work with them. Hell even family who piss them off but they have to play nice with a few times a year. I don’t think you would subject yourself to being around said people for the remainder of your life’s work. Especially creative, collaborative work.

circlesdown

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

You can define "memorable" how it fits for you, but Soundgarden stands up to GnR, to me.

I am a GnR fan as much as many but as great as Appetite was, give me Badmotorfinger if we can only pick one record between the bands.
Also, body of work is no comparison, to me.

Matt was actually part of SG since the mid 80s, as well.  I am not a Dave nor GnR scholar but I don't recall him being an actual member of GnR.  If he was I don't believe it was for too long.

But Matt was in SG before PJ. So that band is cheating. The question was "since Pearl Jam" started.

TICK

TOCK

He has been in SG after joining pearl Jam also. Batman wins. The Riddler is sent to Arkham.

Was he really "in" GnR?   I thought he just did some rehearsals.  Did he ever appear on an album or tour?

No, but he made Axl destroy an aquarium when he decided to leave. If I remember Dave A's story correctly.

Let's face it. It probably doesn't take much to get Axl to destroy an aquarium. 

I mean, haven’t we all, at some point, made Axl destroy an aquarium?

JH6056

circlesdown said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

You can define "memorable" how it fits for you, but Soundgarden stands up to GnR, to me.

I am a GnR fan as much as many but as great as Appetite was, give me Badmotorfinger if we can only pick one record between the bands.
Also, body of work is no comparison, to me.

Matt was actually part of SG since the mid 80s, as well.  I am not a Dave nor GnR scholar but I don't recall him being an actual member of GnR.  If he was I don't believe it was for too long.

But Matt was in SG before PJ. So that band is cheating. The question was "since Pearl Jam" started.

TICK

TOCK

He has been in SG after joining pearl Jam also. Batman wins. The Riddler is sent to Arkham.

Was he really "in" GnR?   I thought he just did some rehearsals.  Did he ever appear on an album or tour?

No, but he made Axl destroy an aquarium when he decided to leave. If I remember Dave A's story correctly.

Let's face it. It probably doesn't take much to get Axl to destroy an aquarium. 

I mean, haven’t we all, at some point, made Axl destroy an aquarium?

I'm afraid I was unsuccessful at this.  The most I made him do once was throw one of those little baggies of carnival goldfish, poor fish. But no aquariums destroyed by him with me.

But, there's still tomorrow....
#AquariumGoals

Merkin Baller

OceansJenny said:

They just don’t get along personally. I’m sure everyone has someone in their life who they can respect their work but can’t stand to work with them. Hell even family who piss them off but they have to play nice with a few times a year. I don’t think you would subject yourself to being around said people for the remainder of your life’s work. Especially creative, collaborative work.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one. 

circlesdown

OceansJenny said:

circlesdown said:

All I’m saying is, I just wish he would say something nice about Dave.  

At the RRHOF speech Ed said he was a “hell of a drummer” in an earnest way. 

They just don’t get along personally. I’m sure everyone has someone in their life who they can respect their work but can’t stand to work with them. Hell even family who piss them off but they have to play nice with a few times a year. I don’t think you would subject yourself to being around said people for the remainder of your life’s work. Especially creative, collaborative work.

Good call out, I think I remember that.

and it sounds like we all appreciate the many moves they made in the interest of self preservation.

Mike D88

mcgruff10 said:

The dude was drummer for what, 2 1/2 years out of 31?  

Can we please just hang this on the door, maybe with flashing lights and a klaxon?

jimjam1982

I like Matt.

mfc2006

Dave was great with PJ & he's a talented drummer for sure.
Matt is great with and for PJ and he's also a talented drummer.

It's been a long time since he was in the band & something like this pops up every once in awhile. I seriously doubt he will ever play live with them again and it's pretty sad to see that he can't let it go. I wish him all the best, but sometimes things simply just don't work out.

2-feign-reluctance

The guy yearns for some kind of meaningful connection with his old bandmates. Who are we to trash and/or criticize him for that? 

LastStopOnTheWestCoastLine

More like Dave Abbruzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. (I think he's alright actually, but couldn't resist.)

OceansJenny

mfc2006 said:

Dave was great with PJ & he's a talented drummer for sure.
Matt is great with and for PJ and he's also a talented drummer.

Perfect summary.

bmurray06

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

Guns N' Roses memorable for sure, but not always for the right reasons. Enlighten me this Spiritual Chaos --- Wasn't late 90's more memorable for GnRs for not making music and being late or no shows for concerts than anything else? Also wasn't Jack Irons more substantial for RHCP (who actually created music throughout their career vs. GnR) in their early years than Dave was after PJ fired him?

HughFreakingDillon

touting Dave A being in GNR for a half second is about the same as mentioning Duff as being a former member of Jane's Addiction, which also lasted about the same amount of time. 

Little Italy

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Getting kicked out of a band is one thing.  Getting kicked out of a business that would never have you worry about money ever again is a different story.  

I don’t think that tweet is bad.  He wants to play a show with his old band.  Not unusual.

yeah, I don't get the judgment dave gets constantly from this fan base of "move on". would you move on if basically millions of dollars were kind of snatched away from you in an instant? this isn't pining over an ex girlfriend. as you said, it's also the business side of it. missing out on touring the world, seeing exotic locations, playing in front of thousands of people every night. 

Exactly.

Not to mention the popularity and legacy of the band was built upon the sound for which he was provided the rhythm and life force like blood flowing through veins.

Given To Fly type of songs isn’t want shot the band to the moon.

HesCalledDyer

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

Spiritual_Chaos

HesCalledDyer said:

I wonder if Dave A would've won the state championship if coach had put him in the game. I heard he can throw a football over them mountains.

Is this some Marriage with children reference? 

Spiritual_Chaos

bmurray06 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bmurray06 said:

Also what memorable acts has Dave been in since Pearl Jam? 

Guns N' Roses. 

Riddle me this Batman -- Name another Pearl Jam member who has been in a band as memorable as Guns N' Roses?

Guns N' Roses memorable for sure, but not always for the right reasons. Enlighten me this Spiritual Chaos --- Wasn't late 90's more memorable for GnRs for not making music and being late or no shows for concerts than anything else? Also wasn't Jack Irons more substantial for RHCP (who actually created music throughout their career vs. GnR) in their early years than Dave was after PJ fired him?

Late 90s was more memorable for GoldenEye on the Nintendo 64, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, the last theatrical outing in the franchise: Hellraiser: Bloodline and Axl Rose being so hurt by Dave A leaving he had to destroy an aquarium.