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    jefftjefft Posts: 650
    Ontario and  quebec just put strong measures in place again.  Let's hope we can get out of this phase quick.
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    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFanLeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan Posts: 3,412
    This is from a hospital meeting in Ontario today:

    - case counts are “grossly underestimated and are likely 3 to 10 times under reported. Omicron is everywhere 
    - hospital numbers are going up, but most COVID positive are incidental findings as they were tested coming in with something else
    - most of these are double or triple vaxxed
    - ICU still predominantly unvaxxed and are in for COVID
    - vax primary thing is to prevent severe disease not from getting COVID at all 
    - we will need new vaccines moving forward as this evolves. We’re using what we have because we have it and there’s no time to pivot with Omicron
    - there will hopefully be some level of natural immunity after Omicron is done that is good
    - Ontario data showing Omicron is in fact less severe (<50% hospital fatalities as compared to Delta). South Africa data not comparable to here so good to have Ontario data
    - Kingston may be tapering off - they are week ahead so good sign for us but not confirmed 
    - goal is to mitigate healthcare system from shutting down with staff getting Omicron and to protect vulnerable from dying
    - think they may pivot in testing on those who need yo know (healthcare workers etc) and have everyone else stay home and isolate, but this is just guess 
    - cold = Omicron highly likely 
    - The horse has left the barn. No amount of testing can keep up with Omicron. And it’s impossible to contact traceF8
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:
    This is from a hospital meeting in Ontario today:

    - case counts are “grossly underestimated and are likely 3 to 10 times under reported. Omicron is everywhere 
    - hospital numbers are going up, but most COVID positive are incidental findings as they were tested coming in with something else
    - most of these are double or triple vaxxed
    - ICU still predominantly unvaxxed and are in for COVID
    - vax primary thing is to prevent severe disease not from getting COVID at all 
    - we will need new vaccines moving forward as this evolves. We’re using what we have because we have it and there’s no time to pivot with Omicron
    - there will hopefully be some level of natural immunity after Omicron is done that is good
    - Ontario data showing Omicron is in fact less severe (<50% hospital fatalities as compared to Delta). South Africa data not comparable to here so good to have Ontario data
    - Kingston may be tapering off - they are week ahead so good sign for us but not confirmed 
    - goal is to mitigate healthcare system from shutting down with staff getting Omicron and to protect vulnerable from dying
    - think they may pivot in testing on those who need yo know (healthcare workers etc) and have everyone else stay home and isolate, but this is just guess 
    - cold = Omicron highly likely 
    - The horse has left the barn. No amount of testing can keep up with Omicron. And it’s impossible to contact traceF8
    Thanks for both the tour and COVID updates, especially from Ontario!
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    JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,979
    SVRDhand13 said:
    JojoRice said:
    This thread has derailed. 
    Well there are never any real rumors in these threads anyway lol
    There's been a few. They are just buried deep in the bowels of this thread. 
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    Spoonman110Spoonman110 Winnipeg Posts: 348
    Think we get all new posters for the rescheduled shows?

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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,632
    Spoonman110 said:
    Think we get all new posters for the rescheduled shows?
    Yes, definitely 
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,936
    Weston1283 said:
    Spoonman110 said:
    Think we get all new posters for the rescheduled shows?
    Yes, definitely 

    Can't wait!
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    Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 723
    Omicron fading into the background of endemic coronaviruses is the best you can hope for at this stage.
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    YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,514
    the worldwide web scuttlebutt for Bonnarrrrrroooo headliners are Tool, Dixie Chicks and J Cole, so any traction for PJ to headline again isn't happening at this point (if we go by Festival Owl chatter on Twitter).
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    Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    Just saw someone on Reddit claiming Pearl Jam as headliners for Lolla, along with Billie Eilish, Arctic Monkeys, and ASAP Rocky

    Anyone heard the same? 

    Previously, it had sounded like Wrigley was a go for 2022 or at least I thought
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    ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 634
    Doubt they would come straight back from Europe and play Lolla days later.  Might want a couple weeks off.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
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    Triberjay25Triberjay25 Detroit Posts: 115
    Person on inforoo claiming Rage Against the Machine pulling out of Coachella and possibly postponing their tour again......
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    tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 886
    ddeschler said:
    Doubt they would come straight back from Europe and play Lolla days later.  Might want a couple weeks off.
    Yeah and after a quick US run before Europe, I don’t see it happening. You’d think if the band had the choice they will choose Wrigley over Lolla any day. Only way is if Wrigley was booked up already 
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    3days3days Posts: 1,152
    PLEASE. NO. LOLLA. 
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    BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,089
    tylermoore said:
    ddeschler said:
    Doubt they would come straight back from Europe and play Lolla days later.  Might want a couple weeks off.
    Yeah and after a quick US run before Europe, I don’t see it happening. You’d think if the band had the choice they will choose Wrigley over Lolla any day. Only way is if Wrigley was booked up already 

    Also depends how much money they are set to make from each.  If Lolla happens to be a bigger pay day...
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,822
    edited January 2022
    No chance at Lolla and all signs say Wrigley and other ballpark shows.  Just makes sense with outdoors being deemed safer for transmission. 
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    P34RL J4MM3RP34RL J4MM3R Posts: 1,313
    I agree with you, but you need to make a different argument.  Lolla is also 100% outdoors, so no different than Wrigley.  Lolla may be even 'more' outdoors because of the Wrigley concourses.

    I'm pretty sure they would make more money at Wrigley, especially a 2-night run with all posters and merch.  Lolla is much less merch money.
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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,244
    3days said:
    PLEASE. NO. LOLLA. 
    I’d take lolla over wrigley this go around. My kids are at the age where they do all 4 days and I’d love to buy a single day ticket for PJ and try to get a family day going for sure. The other days at lolla I would be out.
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    HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 4,560
    I’m over Wrigley. 2 nights at the United Center please. Not a fan of Lolla but if it gets Midwest dates rolling end of summer / early fall….so be it. 
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    RD81760RD81760 Posts: 124
    msg 3 nights in april leading into phish on 4/20
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    3days3days Posts: 1,152
    elvistheking44 said:
    3days said:
    PLEASE. NO. LOLLA. 
    I’d take lolla over wrigley this go around. My kids are at the age where they do all 4 days and I’d love to buy a single day ticket for PJ and try to get a family day going for sure. The other days at lolla I would be out.
    I respect that. Lolla isn't an experience that I personally enjoy, but sharing common ground with one's family is priceless.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,890
    P34RL J4MM3R said:
    I agree with you, but you need to make a different argument.  Lolla is also 100% outdoors, so no different than Wrigley.  Lolla may be even 'more' outdoors because of the Wrigley concourses.

    I'm pretty sure they would make more money at Wrigley, especially a 2-night run with all posters and merch.  Lolla is much less merch money.
    Lolla is general admission so people will be on top of each other all day long. Not quite as cramped for as long of time as ballpark shows with assigned seating. 
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    HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 4,560
    RD81760 said:
    msg 3 nights in april leading into phish on 4/20
    Credible or speculation?
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    chiefnjkchiefnjk Posts: 302
    Lolla would be 15 year anniversary of their 2007 appearance. I could see it and would definitely prefer Lolla (plus a Metro aftershow) over Wrigley again.
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,452
    chiefnjk said:
    Lolla would be 15 year anniversary of their 2007 appearance. I could see it and would definitely prefer Lolla (plus a Metro aftershow) over Wrigley again.
    chiefnjk said:
    Lolla would be 15 year anniversary of their 2007 appearance. I could see it and would definitely prefer Lolla (plus a Metro aftershow) over Wrigley again.
    ddeschler said:
    Doubt they would come straight back from Europe and play Lolla days later.  Might want a couple weeks off.

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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,193
    chiefnjk said:
    Lolla would be 15 year anniversary of their 2007 appearance. I could see it and would definitely prefer Lolla (plus a Metro aftershow) over Wrigley again.
    Oh my god has it really been 15 years 😵‍💫
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    Father HubbardFather Hubbard Chicago Posts: 1,561
    Forecastle lineup tomorrow (Louisville 5/27-5/29) maybe there's a small chance (apologies if brought up before)
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    wbutler29wbutler29 Posts: 912
    I know forecast doesn't look great, but keeping my glass half full.  Chances the delayed announcement to this month coincides with some of the US festival line up announcements (Jazz Fest, ACL, etc.)  Realize it is a long shot.
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    DM656970DM656970 Posts: 17
    If they’re considering outdoor venues they should play The Wharf in Orange Beach Alabama. Great venue
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    I wonder if they'll transition to all outdoor shows? Nothing behind this, just thinking out loud.
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