2022 North American rumour thread take 2

ddeschler

kaw753 said:

PJNB said:

100 Pacer said:

PJNB said:

Spurs14 said:

I thought this was an interesting read:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/no-friends-no-family-no-110707912.html

That was a very good read thanks.

Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 

Surprised in what sense?

I just assumed that they could back out with covid being an excuse at any point after announcing the tour. It looks like that is not the case for some locations hence the risk of announcing too early.  Lots of bands have been doing this this year. 

As a fan I want them to announce the dates asap but stuff like this makes sense from a business perspective to not  announce until they are almost certain the shows will happen. 

That was probably true before Covid was a known thing. Once it became known, any reasonable insurance company is going to not cover Covid as a reason for cancellation. Either that or the premiums to cover are insane.

If album sales actually made $$$ like back in the day, I suspect everyone would just be cranking out albums and nobody would be out on tour. Let's face it, a few members of Pearl Jam probably have enough money to not deal with this poop. Especially the ones with young kids at home.

There are two great festivals in Monterrey and Mexico City in November (Foo Fighters, Tame Impala, Twenty One Pilots). I just got back from Mexico City and it is an amazing place full of tacos. Would highly recommend if you are mildly adventurous. 

Mexico City is indeed pretty cool, esp if you can handle chaos and hellacious traffic.  Massive city, great food, lots to see.  But crazy income inequality (even more than the US!).  I felt guilty being a wealthy gringo, confronted with poverty at every turn (and the soldiers armed with automatic weapons at many shops made me feel less comfortable, rather than more comfortable),

Indifference

So South America - September 

on2legs

Lol

CopperTom

Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022

JimmyV

Interesting

PJNB

If I was a betting man I would of said no chance at SA shows next year. I would of guessed they did ballpark shows after Europe then a fall tour in NA after with 2023 giving the SA countries some love. 

HailHailVitalogy

Awesome. Maybe this means we get more than just the rescheduled shows in the spring 

Bentleyspop

on2legs said:

Probably way less chance of needing to cancel an outdoor stadium show.  Might be a smart move by The Weeknd.  

https://twitter.com/CraigWeekend/status/1380658532685508608?t=I3g1VWRGAH-RMOUeAnyuTQ&s=19

Weston1283

Seems like a solid rumour.  Festival leaks tend to be more solid than arena shows.  South America in the Fall it is then

JojoRice

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 

RatherStarved

Other than Ohana Encore which didn’t really have too many rumors about it, this is the first net new rumor in almost two years! Valid or not, it’s nice to see something like this. 

kaw753

CopperTom said:

Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022

The website has big headliners announced for everything but that night. Checks out!

PJNB

kaw753 said:

CopperTom said:

Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022

The website has big headliners announced for everything but that night. Checks out!

Maybe i am missing something here with the translation but is there not only one night left? The same guy said GNR would be headlining too a month ago and they have yet to announce them as the headliner. Odd for him to announce them and PJ with one slot left but again maybe google translate is not allowing me to see the full picture. 

JojoRice

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 

Tomorrow is now today. 

RS65573

Go Animal

RS65573 said:

From Then Till Now?

RatherStarved

Every tomorrow is the same as before.  

2-feign-reluctance

RatherStarved said:

Every tomorrow is the same as before.  

Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 

SVRDhand13

RatherStarved said:

Every tomorrow is the same as before.  

Thanks now this is stuck in my head

Weston1283

JojoRice said:

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 

If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
Europe June/July
Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  

Ryan

SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 

OfThePearl

Please NOT FEB ! I have 2 major conflicting events then already! March/April or into early May, similar to the original dates would be  so much better. 

JojoRice

Ryan said:

SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 

That's what I was thinking too.  Normally, SA tours are only about 6-8 shows. 

PJNB

JojoRice said:

Ryan said:

SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 

That's what I was thinking too.  Normally, SA tours are only about 6-8 shows. 

And 2013 only had 3. Still aside from Australia being obvious for sometime in 2023 if SA has a significant amount of shows this year next year is going to be dry and why would they blow it all on one year? 

RatherStarved

2-feign-reluctance said:

RatherStarved said:

Every tomorrow is the same as before.  

Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 

Never said I didn’t like it - just would prefer to hear other stuff when setlists are limited and shows so infrequent.  

NewfieintheUSA

A tour announcement would be nice for my birthday tomorrow!

NewfieintheUSA

Weston1283 said:

JojoRice said:

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 

If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
Europe June/July
Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  

I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.

2-feign-reluctance

RatherStarved said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

RatherStarved said:

Every tomorrow is the same as before.  

Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 

Never said I didn’t like it - just would prefer to hear other stuff when setlists are limited and shows so infrequent.  

Just teasing you! : ) 

PJNB

NewfieintheUSA said:

Weston1283 said:

JojoRice said:

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 

If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
Europe June/July
Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  

I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I would much prefer a spring and fall tour for NA. Would allow a lot more fans to see more shows I would imagine travel wise. I think we are getting 50 plus shows next year easy with or without SA. AUS may happen in December next year but more than likely we get the Jan/Feb PJ and EV solo tour I would guess, 

Indifference

PJNB said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Weston1283 said:

JojoRice said:

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 

If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
Europe June/July
Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  

I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I would much prefer a spring and fall tour for NA. Would allow a lot more fans to see more shows I would imagine travel wise. I think we are getting 50 plus shows next year easy with or without SA. AUS may happen in December next year but more than likely we get the Jan/Feb PJ and EV solo tour I would guess, 

IDK about that maybe NA isn't until 2023.  Hopefully not.  Granted post COVID might change stuff but havent had more then 30ish shows in a year since 2006.