2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 624
    kaw753 said:
    PJNB said:
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
    Surprised in what sense?
    I just assumed that they could back out with covid being an excuse at any point after announcing the tour. It looks like that is not the case for some locations hence the risk of announcing too early.  Lots of bands have been doing this this year. 

    As a fan I want them to announce the dates asap but stuff like this makes sense from a business perspective to not  announce until they are almost certain the shows will happen. 
    That was probably true before Covid was a known thing. Once it became known, any reasonable insurance company is going to not cover Covid as a reason for cancellation. Either that or the premiums to cover are insane.

    If album sales actually made $$$ like back in the day, I suspect everyone would just be cranking out albums and nobody would be out on tour. Let's face it, a few members of Pearl Jam probably have enough money to not deal with this poop. Especially the ones with young kids at home.

    There are two great festivals in Monterrey and Mexico City in November (Foo Fighters, Tame Impala, Twenty One Pilots). I just got back from Mexico City and it is an amazing place full of tacos. Would highly recommend if you are mildly adventurous. 

    Mexico City is indeed pretty cool, esp if you can handle chaos and hellacious traffic.  Massive city, great food, lots to see.  But crazy income inequality (even more than the US!).  I felt guilty being a wealthy gringo, confronted with poverty at every turn (and the soldiers armed with automatic weapons at many shops made me feel less comfortable, rather than more comfortable),
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,621
    So South America - September  :o

    SHOW COUNT: (149) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=89, US=109, CAN=15, Europe=19 ,New Zealand=2, Australia=2
    Mexico=1, Colombia=1 

    Upcoming:  Sacramento, Vegas x2, Manchester, London, Chicago x2, NYC x2, Fenway x2, Aucklandx2, Gold Coast, Melbournex2


  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,378
    Lol
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,989
    Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,810
    Interesting
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,624
    edited October 2021
    If I was a betting man I would of said no chance at SA shows next year. I would of guessed they did ballpark shows after Europe then a fall tour in NA after with 2023 giving the SA countries some love. 
  • Awesome. Maybe this means we get more than just the rescheduled shows in the spring 
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    on2legs said:
    Probably way less chance of needing to cancel an outdoor stadium show.  Might be a smart move by The Weeknd.  

  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,617
    Seems like a solid rumour.  Festival leaks tend to be more solid than arena shows.  South America in the Fall it is then
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,873
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • Other than Ohana Encore which didn’t really have too many rumors about it, this is the first net new rumor in almost two years! Valid or not, it’s nice to see something like this. 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 741
    CopperTom said:
    Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022
    The website has big headliners announced for everything but that night. Checks out!
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,624
    edited October 2021
    kaw753 said:
    CopperTom said:
    Per promoter, Rock In Rio - Rio De Janeiro - September 9, 2022
    The website has big headliners announced for everything but that night. Checks out!
    Maybe i am missing something here with the translation but is there not only one night left? The same guy said GNR would be headlining too a month ago and they have yet to announce them as the headliner. Odd for him to announce them and PJ with one slot left but again maybe google translate is not allowing me to see the full picture. 
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,873
    I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 
    Tomorrow is now today. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,359

  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    RS65573 said:

    From Then Till Now?

    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Every tomorrow is the same as before.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,090
    Every tomorrow is the same as before.  
    Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,717
    Every tomorrow is the same as before.  
    Thanks now this is stuck in my head :smiley:
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

    LOOKING FOR TIX TO MSG NIGHT 2
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,617
    JojoRice said:
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

    Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
    Europe June/July
    Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
    SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
    And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

    I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,012
    SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
    The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 
    2003 - June 15 Fargo
    2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
    2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
    2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
    2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
    2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
    2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
    2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
    2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
    2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
    2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
    2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
    2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
  • Please NOT FEB ! I have 2 major conflicting events then already! March/April or into early May, similar to the original dates would be  so much better. 
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,873
    Ryan said:
    SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
    The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 
    That's what I was thinking too.  Normally, SA tours are only about 6-8 shows. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,624
    JojoRice said:
    Ryan said:
    SA in September could just be a couple big shows, then ACL early October (x2) weekends with other US dates around that.
    The tour model I think has kind of been reset and it seems like from their 2020 plans they were willing to be on the road more than they were previously. 
    That's what I was thinking too.  Normally, SA tours are only about 6-8 shows. 
    And 2013 only had 3. Still aside from Australia being obvious for sometime in 2023 if SA has a significant amount of shows this year next year is going to be dry and why would they blow it all on one year? 
  • Every tomorrow is the same as before.  
    Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 
    Never said I didn’t like it - just would prefer to hear other stuff when setlists are limited and shows so infrequent.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • A tour announcement would be nice for my birthday tomorrow!
  • JojoRice said:
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

    Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
    Europe June/July
    Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
    SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
    And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

    I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  
    I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,090
    Every tomorrow is the same as before.  
    Gigaton lyrics, the album is getting to you! 
    Never said I didn’t like it - just would prefer to hear other stuff when setlists are limited and shows so infrequent.  
    Just teasing you! : ) 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,624
    edited October 2021
    JojoRice said:
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

    Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
    Europe June/July
    Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
    SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
    And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

    I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  
    I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.
    I would much prefer a spring and fall tour for NA. Would allow a lot more fans to see more shows I would imagine travel wise. I think we are getting 50 plus shows next year easy with or without SA. AUS may happen in December next year but more than likely we get the Jan/Feb PJ and EV solo tour I would guess, 
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,621
    edited October 2021
    PJNB said:
    JojoRice said:
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

    Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
    Europe June/July
    Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
    SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
    And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

    I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  
    I think this is more optimistic than what we can really expect. Hopefully I'm wrong.
    I would much prefer a spring and fall tour for NA. Would allow a lot more fans to see more shows I would imagine travel wise. I think we are getting 50 plus shows next year easy with or without SA. AUS may happen in December next year but more than likely we get the Jan/Feb PJ and EV solo tour I would guess, 
    IDK about that maybe NA isn't until 2023.  Hopefully not.  Granted post COVID might change stuff but havent had more then 30ish shows in a year since 2006.
    Post edited by Indifference on

    SHOW COUNT: (149) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=89, US=109, CAN=15, Europe=19 ,New Zealand=2, Australia=2
    Mexico=1, Colombia=1 

    Upcoming:  Sacramento, Vegas x2, Manchester, London, Chicago x2, NYC x2, Fenway x2, Aucklandx2, Gold Coast, Melbournex2


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