2022 North American rumour thread take 2

Weston1283

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

Kevinman

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

Weston1283

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

I doubt any games would be made up, they would just be lost.  Part of the agreement is to extend the playoffs which already go into early November, so I don’t see a scenario where they make up any games that are lost.

JimmyV

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

mpedone

JimmyV said:

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

I mean, the owners haven't changed over the years; this labor situation is just a pointed reminder of that. If the band or its fans hasn't had issues padding these owners' pockets in the past, why should it become an issue now? 

mpedone

Manu117 said:

MakeUSmile said:

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

I agree.  I think a teaser next week with actual info on Monday 3/7. 

Someone commented on a few pages ago with a post having 7 “U” s in it.   It fed off Dimi’s post saying U will be happy soon...  Was random and prob nothing, but I always count things in groups (strange, I know) and counted 7.  So I’ve been thinking either 7 more days or 3/7 for announcement.  Lol

There is NO need for teasers. This isn't a new tour announcement that needs to be hyped up, this is a rescheduled tour for which most people already have their tickets. Just release the dates. Any new dates will just be a bonus.

If they are offering 10 Club members a shot at remaining tickets before the general public, there will be a teaser to make sure your membership is active before a certain date. 

JimmyV

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

I mean, the owners haven't changed over the years; this labor situation is just a pointed reminder of that. If the band or its fans hasn't had issues padding these owners' pockets in the past, why should it become an issue now? 

I'm not saying it will or even that it should. But if this turns into a long, 1994-style work stoppage I can see a scenario where it becomes an issue for some bands. It's not a strike. The workforce is locked out. 

Kevinman

Weston1283 said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

I doubt any games would be made up, they would just be lost.  Part of the agreement is to extend the playoffs which already go into early November, so I don’t see a scenario where they make up any games that are lost.

Probably right about games not being made up, but I would imagine schedule(date) changes.  Might cut out inter league play or rearrange schedules to make sure inter division games are equal.

RatherStarved

I think there are enough hints.  They said stay tuned for updates in the last newsletter.  They said early 2022 in the November email.  Their social media has been posting ballparks and even something like there’s nothing like a home show.  I still think they’ll make us wait until the 7th but it’s not for lack of clues.  

Habit4me

So who's collecting the interest on the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been thrown into people sitting on their 10c tickets the last 2 years?

Pearl Jam or Ticketmaster?

Cause I sure as shit haven't recieved any sort of kick back.

JFC

Kevinman

Habit4me said:

So who's collecting the interest on the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been thrown into people sitting on their 10c tickets the last 2 years?

Pearl Jam or Ticketmaster?

Cause I sure as shit haven't recieved any sort of kick back.

JFC

Hmmmmm…….haven’t received anything here either?

bbiggs

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

bootlegger10

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

I'll trade the interest for not having to pay another $100 to $200 per ticket after all the inflation and cost increases the past two years.  

RatherStarved

bootlegger10 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

I'll trade the interest for not having to pay another $100 to $200 per ticket after all the inflation and cost increases the past two years.  

Not to mention to avoid the Platinum fiasco.

bootlegger10

KL159781 said:

bootlegger10 said:

KL159781 said:

I think another issue in them announcing the tour relates to the California and New York shows and vaccine status. Until last week Los Angeles County required vaccine cards for concerts. Now they have gone back to allowing unvaccinated in with negative tests. I believe the negative test requirement may affect the other CA shows and NYC. 

If LA County hadn’t gone back to allowing negative tests, it would have been a nightmare to tell fans who bought tickets 2 years ago that they couldn’t attend if they are unvaccinated. Remember that Jeff said he doesn’t like the idea of people having to show vaccination cards. As it stands now, they still will have to at the 7 shows in CA and NY and perhaps others. That’s a high percentage of the dates on the tour.

There are no reasons other than PJ likes to wait as long as possible.  Always have.  Tons of other large bands have announced tours and done tours.  PJ is not on an island.

So you seem to be implying that Pearl Jam are taking their time for no other reason than they like to. You don’t think that there are any actual concerns by members of the band on how and when to procede with the tour? None of these things play into their decision making? If not, then why didn’t they just reschedule these arena shows last fall when they played Ohana and Sea Hear Now? Why are any of us offering speculation on the band’s reasoning on rescheduling if your belief is the magic answer to it all?

My opinion is that they like to take as long as possible to have to commit to something.  They may or may not have finalized the tour plans, but it would be crazy to me that they haven't had holds at venues for the last two years. My point is that other bands are able to get it done and provide more planning time for their fans.  PJ, for whatever reason (that reason being something that doesn't stop most other bands) waits until 2 months to announce what will probably be an underwhelming tour announcement for most fans in NA.  

Kevinman

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

So you’re saying it’s on the list…..

Poncier

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

Kevinman

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

PJNB

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

But they would just accommodate the cities with the concerts book similar to how they do it when they book concerts for arenas before the NHL and NBA schedules have been made up would they not? 

Kevinman

PJNB said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

But they would just accommodate the cities with the concerts book similar to how they do it when they book concerts for arenas before the NHL and NBA schedules have been made up would they not? 

Yeah, i would think so….you are right.  Shouldn’t be issue as long as dates are booked already?