2022 North American rumour thread take 2

Kevinman

Habit4me said:

So who's collecting the interest on the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been thrown into people sitting on their 10c tickets the last 2 years?

Pearl Jam or Ticketmaster?

Cause I sure as shit haven't recieved any sort of kick back.

JFC

Hmmmmm…….haven’t received anything here either?

bbiggs

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

bootlegger10

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

I'll trade the interest for not having to pay another $100 to $200 per ticket after all the inflation and cost increases the past two years.  

RatherStarved

bootlegger10 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

I'll trade the interest for not having to pay another $100 to $200 per ticket after all the inflation and cost increases the past two years.  

Not to mention to avoid the Platinum fiasco.

bootlegger10

KL159781 said:

bootlegger10 said:

KL159781 said:

I think another issue in them announcing the tour relates to the California and New York shows and vaccine status. Until last week Los Angeles County required vaccine cards for concerts. Now they have gone back to allowing unvaccinated in with negative tests. I believe the negative test requirement may affect the other CA shows and NYC. 

If LA County hadn’t gone back to allowing negative tests, it would have been a nightmare to tell fans who bought tickets 2 years ago that they couldn’t attend if they are unvaccinated. Remember that Jeff said he doesn’t like the idea of people having to show vaccination cards. As it stands now, they still will have to at the 7 shows in CA and NY and perhaps others. That’s a high percentage of the dates on the tour.

There are no reasons other than PJ likes to wait as long as possible.  Always have.  Tons of other large bands have announced tours and done tours.  PJ is not on an island.

So you seem to be implying that Pearl Jam are taking their time for no other reason than they like to. You don’t think that there are any actual concerns by members of the band on how and when to procede with the tour? None of these things play into their decision making? If not, then why didn’t they just reschedule these arena shows last fall when they played Ohana and Sea Hear Now? Why are any of us offering speculation on the band’s reasoning on rescheduling if your belief is the magic answer to it all?

My opinion is that they like to take as long as possible to have to commit to something.  They may or may not have finalized the tour plans, but it would be crazy to me that they haven't had holds at venues for the last two years. My point is that other bands are able to get it done and provide more planning time for their fans.  PJ, for whatever reason (that reason being something that doesn't stop most other bands) waits until 2 months to announce what will probably be an underwhelming tour announcement for most fans in NA.  

Kevinman

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

So you’re saying it’s on the list…..

Poncier

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

Kevinman

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

PJNB

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

But they would just accommodate the cities with the concerts book similar to how they do it when they book concerts for arenas before the NHL and NBA schedules have been made up would they not? 

Kevinman

PJNB said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

It's not that those are "open dates", those are dates when the team is scheduled to be playing on the road. So, there wouldn't be make up games at Fenway on 8/19 & 8/20 as the Sox will be in Baltimore.
Similarly, Cubs hit the road on 8/26 for 10 days, so Wrigley could be scheduled in that window.

I’m thinking if season is shortened the whole schedule will need to be reworked.  Home/away dates may change.

But they would just accommodate the cities with the concerts book similar to how they do it when they book concerts for arenas before the NHL and NBA schedules have been made up would they not? 

Yeah, i would think so….you are right.  Shouldn’t be issue as long as dates are booked already?

given2fly23

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

Not to mention that a refund option was offered. It’s hilarious that people think ticket sale money goes straight into PJ’s bank account or that the five of them are sitting around deciding the announcement date. This is all TM/LiveNation holding money and coordinating announcements to maximize sales. 

bootlegger10

given2fly23 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

Not to mention that a refund option was offered. It’s hilarious that people think ticket sale money goes straight into PJ’s bank account or that the five of them are sitting around deciding the announcement date. This is all TM/LiveNation holding money and coordinating announcements to maximize sales. 

So TM/Live Nation don't want to maximize money when other bands announce their tours much further in advance than PJ (consistently).  The only time PJ announces shows well in advance are when a festival is involved. 

They are basically going to reward people holding tickets for 2 years with about 6 weeks of planning when they probably had to turn in their vacation schedules for work months ago.  I guess DMB is willing to take less money by announcing earlier for his tours.  

JimmyV

TM has your money, but TM is absolutely not 100% responsible for the delay in announcing the tour. 

ComeToTX

Just booked a trip for May for the family. Can’t wait forever for this band to announce something. 

given2fly23

bootlegger10 said:

given2fly23 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

Not to mention that a refund option was offered. It’s hilarious that people think ticket sale money goes straight into PJ’s bank account or that the five of them are sitting around deciding the announcement date. This is all TM/LiveNation holding money and coordinating announcements to maximize sales. 

So TM/Live Nation don't want to maximize money when other bands announce their tours much further in advance than PJ (consistently).  The only time PJ announces shows well in advance are when a festival is involved. 

They are basically going to reward people holding tickets for 2 years with about 6 weeks of planning when they probably had to turn in their vacation schedules for work months ago.  I guess DMB is willing to take less money by announcing earlier for his tours.  

This is a unique situation right now, an dof course PJ has to green light a tour first, but once they have, I imagine TM/LN look at all the other bands who have announcements/ticket sales on the calendar and try to stagger them to maximize our spending.  If PJ and Foo are both announcing tours, I'd imagine TM/LN want to stagger them so fans don't have to pick one or the other.  I'm not in the industry, I'm just saying that there are other factors besides just PJ.  Of course they have to choose to tour first, but there are other players/decision-makers involved.

bootlegger10

given2fly23 said:

bootlegger10 said:

given2fly23 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

Not to mention that a refund option was offered. It’s hilarious that people think ticket sale money goes straight into PJ’s bank account or that the five of them are sitting around deciding the announcement date. This is all TM/LiveNation holding money and coordinating announcements to maximize sales. 

So TM/Live Nation don't want to maximize money when other bands announce their tours much further in advance than PJ (consistently).  The only time PJ announces shows well in advance are when a festival is involved. 

They are basically going to reward people holding tickets for 2 years with about 6 weeks of planning when they probably had to turn in their vacation schedules for work months ago.  I guess DMB is willing to take less money by announcing earlier for his tours.  

This is a unique situation right now, an dof course PJ has to green light a tour first, but once they have, I imagine TM/LN look at all the other bands who have announcements/ticket sales on the calendar and try to stagger them to maximize our spending.  If PJ and Foo are both announcing tours, I'd imagine TM/LN want to stagger them so fans don't have to pick one or the other.  I'm not in the industry, I'm just saying that there are other factors besides just PJ.  Of course they have to choose to tour first, but there are other players/decision-makers involved.

I don't know anything.  It could be all that.  Just think that PJ should be announcing sooner for these reschedules as they have our money and if the new dates don't work for people they can request a refund sooner (versus wait until 6-8 weeks before the show).   Just tired of PJ's tour announcements in the last 10 years or so (one small leg at a time versus multiple legs announced at one time).  

Just look at ComeToTX's post above.  He bought tickets for shows in January of 2020, and has no idea of whether those shows will be in May of 2022 when huge bands' tours have come and gone in between, others announced months ago for tours in spring, and EV announced and did a tour already.   Just silly.  

drakeheuer14

There is no legitimate excuse for this delay really. Plenty of excuses, but none good enough. 

JimmyV

drakeheuer14 said:

There is no legitimate excuse for this delay really. Plenty of excuses, but none good enough. 

Nail on the head. 

Noload

drakeheuer14 said:

There is no legitimate excuse for this delay really. Plenty of excuses, but none good enough. 

Agree.  Just because they can doesn't mean they should.

Habit4me

The Rolling Stones just teased a 2022 tour. Lol.

given2fly23

bootlegger10 said:

given2fly23 said:

bootlegger10 said:

given2fly23 said:

bbiggs said:

Of all the gripes, many of which are legitimate, the interest earned by whoever is holding the money is at the bottom of the list.  That interest is a rounding error.

Not to mention that a refund option was offered. It’s hilarious that people think ticket sale money goes straight into PJ’s bank account or that the five of them are sitting around deciding the announcement date. This is all TM/LiveNation holding money and coordinating announcements to maximize sales. 

So TM/Live Nation don't want to maximize money when other bands announce their tours much further in advance than PJ (consistently).  The only time PJ announces shows well in advance are when a festival is involved. 

They are basically going to reward people holding tickets for 2 years with about 6 weeks of planning when they probably had to turn in their vacation schedules for work months ago.  I guess DMB is willing to take less money by announcing earlier for his tours.  

This is a unique situation right now, an dof course PJ has to green light a tour first, but once they have, I imagine TM/LN look at all the other bands who have announcements/ticket sales on the calendar and try to stagger them to maximize our spending.  If PJ and Foo are both announcing tours, I'd imagine TM/LN want to stagger them so fans don't have to pick one or the other.  I'm not in the industry, I'm just saying that there are other factors besides just PJ.  Of course they have to choose to tour first, but there are other players/decision-makers involved.

I don't know anything.  It could be all that.  Just think that PJ should be announcing sooner for these reschedules as they have our money and if the new dates don't work for people they can request a refund sooner (versus wait until 6-8 weeks before the show).   Just tired of PJ's tour announcements in the last 10 years or so (one small leg at a time versus multiple legs announced at one time).  

Just look at ComeToTX's post above.  He bought tickets for shows in January of 2020, and has no idea of whether those shows will be in May of 2022 when huge bands' tours have come and gone in between, others announced months ago for tours in spring, and EV announced and did a tour already.   Just silly.  

I hear ya, really.  I have over $2,000 tied up in PJ tickets (8 U.S. shows + 2 EU shows, including multiple pairs for a few shows).  My point is just that the band doesn't have 100% control over this situation.  Hopefully this is the week we've been waiting for!

Noload

How about a 10 club only show or two for our troubles? Let's do it!

bbiggs

The good news:  The waiting will be over within the next 8 days.

The bad news:  Some of the 2020 shows won't be happening in May and new shows added.

The result:  Something new for us to complain about for 6+ months. 

OceansJenny

Noload said:

How about a 10 club only show or two for our troubles? Let's do it!

Does the band even like doing 10c shows anymore? 😂

RatherStarved

Tick tock tick tock

ddeschler

Does the band even like doing 10c shows anymore? 😂

When was the last one?

NewfieintheUSA

Today?

Weston1283

NewfieintheUSA said:

Today?

Probably not.  Only thing I’m planning on today is hopefully landing Metallica tickets for August 14th

JimmyV

At midnight it becomes debatable whether or not we are still in early 2022. 

JimmyV

On one hand, the first quarter runs through the end of March. But on the other...no one thinks that things like spring break and St. Patrick's Day happen early in the year.