2022 North American rumour thread take 2

ComeToTX

NFL, NHL, NBA have all played or are playing indoor seasons. It’s ridiculous they’ve waited this long. I get waiting for Ed’s album but anyone going to his shows knows about them. 

Go Animal

SO ANYBODY HEARD ANY RUMORS LATELY?

mpedone

verceman said:

kaw753 said:

I think you really just have an Occam's Razor situation in that the obvious answer is the correct one. They are just waiting for the Earthlings tour to end before announcing as they want to keep the focus on that and not impact ticket sales. Why go see his solo tour if you know they are playing The Forum in 2 months? Not saying it is the correct thing to do, just saying that it is likely what they are thinking.

I would also bet on California being first because the arenas involved (Oakland, LA, San Diego, PHX) are wide open due to no NHL/NBA playoffs. They might also want to delay Canada until the fall just to let the new and improved Covid rules settle in. Again, it seems like this is the obvious solution to a complicated problem of rescheduling. Let's hope they add a Vegas date or two or anything else that makes sense.

I think it is related to the Earthlings Tour but more because we don't realize how much work is going on behind the scenes with the tour, and the same people who are doing those things will be the same people who will do things related to a Pearl Jam tour announcement. Is the tour over this weekend? Then I think we will hear about the dates Monday or Tuesday.

This is my thinking as well. It's going to be nuts when they finally announce the dates, and I don't think they want to deal with that on top of whatever they're dealing with for the EV shows 

vedpunk

verceman said:

kaw753 said:

I think you really just have an Occam's Razor situation in that the obvious answer is the correct one. They are just waiting for the Earthlings tour to end before announcing as they want to keep the focus on that and not impact ticket sales. Why go see his solo tour if you know they are playing The Forum in 2 months? Not saying it is the correct thing to do, just saying that it is likely what they are thinking.

I would also bet on California being first because the arenas involved (Oakland, LA, San Diego, PHX) are wide open due to no NHL/NBA playoffs. They might also want to delay Canada until the fall just to let the new and improved Covid rules settle in. Again, it seems like this is the obvious solution to a complicated problem of rescheduling. Let's hope they add a Vegas date or two or anything else that makes sense.

I think it is related to the Earthlings Tour but more because we don't realize how much work is going on behind the scenes with the tour, and the same people who are doing those things will be the same people who will do things related to a Pearl Jam tour announcement. Is the tour over this weekend? Then I think we will hear about the dates Monday or Tuesday.

Nail on head. 

PJNB

vedpunk said:

verceman said:

kaw753 said:

I think you really just have an Occam's Razor situation in that the obvious answer is the correct one. They are just waiting for the Earthlings tour to end before announcing as they want to keep the focus on that and not impact ticket sales. Why go see his solo tour if you know they are playing The Forum in 2 months? Not saying it is the correct thing to do, just saying that it is likely what they are thinking.

I would also bet on California being first because the arenas involved (Oakland, LA, San Diego, PHX) are wide open due to no NHL/NBA playoffs. They might also want to delay Canada until the fall just to let the new and improved Covid rules settle in. Again, it seems like this is the obvious solution to a complicated problem of rescheduling. Let's hope they add a Vegas date or two or anything else that makes sense.

I think it is related to the Earthlings Tour but more because we don't realize how much work is going on behind the scenes with the tour, and the same people who are doing those things will be the same people who will do things related to a Pearl Jam tour announcement. Is the tour over this weekend? Then I think we will hear about the dates Monday or Tuesday.

Nail on head. 

You think we will know in the next 4 days?

Spartanacus

We need info next week.  If they're not ready to roll out the whole schedule, then they should announce what they can and say what else their plans are, even if their plans may or may not be possible how they want them to be. 

Either way, this Ten Club Member for over 20 years (207xxx) is about 95% sure that I'm going to abort the idea of taking the family to LA for two shows, and I'm not going to wait for SD much longer either.  I said I'd never give up my Ten Club membership if they were still playing, but at this point I'm losing faith that the band can deliver what they promised.  

JG2876

What do we think?   One more Eartthlings date.  1 day after?  2 days after.   Or do we need to wait until March 10th?  Can’t be later than that, right!!!

Noload

JG2876 said:

What do we think?   One more Eartthlings date.  1 day after?  2 days after.   Or do we need to wait until March 10th?  Can’t be later than that, right!!!

It's time. They need to say something. 

JimmyV

2/28

3days

 It's gonna be okay. 

KL159781

bootlegger10 said:

KL159781 said:

I think another issue in them announcing the tour relates to the California and New York shows and vaccine status. Until last week Los Angeles County required vaccine cards for concerts. Now they have gone back to allowing unvaccinated in with negative tests. I believe the negative test requirement may affect the other CA shows and NYC. 

If LA County hadn’t gone back to allowing negative tests, it would have been a nightmare to tell fans who bought tickets 2 years ago that they couldn’t attend if they are unvaccinated. Remember that Jeff said he doesn’t like the idea of people having to show vaccination cards. As it stands now, they still will have to at the 7 shows in CA and NY and perhaps others. That’s a high percentage of the dates on the tour.

There are no reasons other than PJ likes to wait as long as possible.  Always have.  Tons of other large bands have announced tours and done tours.  PJ is not on an island.

So you seem to be implying that Pearl Jam are taking their time for no other reason than they like to. You don’t think that there are any actual concerns by members of the band on how and when to procede with the tour? None of these things play into their decision making? If not, then why didn’t they just reschedule these arena shows last fall when they played Ohana and Sea Hear Now? Why are any of us offering speculation on the band’s reasoning on rescheduling if your belief is the magic answer to it all?

RatherStarved

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

PJNB

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

MakeUSmile

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

I agree.  I think a teaser next week with actual info on Monday 3/7. 

Someone commented on a few pages ago with a post having 7 “U” s in it.   It fed off Dimi’s post saying U will be happy soon...  Was random and prob nothing, but I always count things in groups (strange, I know) and counted 7.  So I’ve been thinking either 7 more days or 3/7 for announcement.  Lol

Manu117

MakeUSmile said:

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

I agree.  I think a teaser next week with actual info on Monday 3/7. 

Someone commented on a few pages ago with a post having 7 “U” s in it.   It fed off Dimi’s post saying U will be happy soon...  Was random and prob nothing, but I always count things in groups (strange, I know) and counted 7.  So I’ve been thinking either 7 more days or 3/7 for announcement.  Lol

There is NO need for teasers. This isn't a new tour announcement that needs to be hyped up, this is a rescheduled tour for which most people already have their tickets. Just release the dates. Any new dates will just be a bonus.

Weston1283

Manu117 said:

MakeUSmile said:

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

I agree.  I think a teaser next week with actual info on Monday 3/7. 

Someone commented on a few pages ago with a post having 7 “U” s in it.   It fed off Dimi’s post saying U will be happy soon...  Was random and prob nothing, but I always count things in groups (strange, I know) and counted 7.  So I’ve been thinking either 7 more days or 3/7 for announcement.  Lol

There is NO need for teasers. This isn't a new tour announcement that needs to be hyped up, this is a rescheduled tour for which most people already have their tickets. Just release the dates. Any new dates will just be a bonus.

There will be one, though.  It’s been over 2 years since they have announced the original shows and they need to build the hype again.

Feel bad for the person earlier who had to submit vacation by 2/28, but it certainly feels like 3/7 is the earliest we will get the dates at this point

MyBitterHands76

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

Yeah I think 3/7 is more likely than than 2/28. It will be about a week after the earthlings tour. That week will also be the two year anniversary of when the dates were originally postponed.

OceansJenny

Will we get a renewal reminder first?

PJNB

This is the timeline for 2020. Now if they drop multiple legs and ballparks next month things get interesting. 

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2020-north-america-tour-presale-timeline
https://pearljam.com/news/public-ticket-sale-info
https://pearljam.com/news/ten-club-ticket-presale-info


10C Lotto Jan 13 - 15th
4 city winners a day Jan 16-19th
Verified Fan sign up Jan 13-15th
Verified Fan sale Jan 23rd
Public sale Jan 24th 


Also it should be noted in 2020 that we did get that huge easter egg hunt and info on Jan 10th. This was for a new album and tour though. The next couple of days some members that were premium seat holders to Scotiabank Arena in Toronto were getting emails with no info on it of ticket pick up dates of Jan 13th. Also other cities had radio hosts hyping something big was coming. 

For those that think they do not need to hint that is fine maybe they just drop the date when it is with nothing but I can not remember NA tour that did not at least have a wink before it. 
 

JimmyV

Pearl Jam was ahead of almost every other band when it came time to postpone in 2020, and they deserve all the respect in the world for that. But since then most other bands have handled the situation better. 

Weston1283

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

Kevinman

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

Weston1283

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

I doubt any games would be made up, they would just be lost.  Part of the agreement is to extend the playoffs which already go into early November, so I don’t see a scenario where they make up any games that are lost.

JimmyV

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

mpedone

JimmyV said:

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

I mean, the owners haven't changed over the years; this labor situation is just a pointed reminder of that. If the band or its fans hasn't had issues padding these owners' pockets in the past, why should it become an issue now? 

mpedone

Manu117 said:

MakeUSmile said:

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

I would love the news on 2/28 but am still thinking it will be 3/7.  This aligns with my theory about placeholder dates on TM and gives them a week to assess any final changes based on how the Earthlings tour went.

I agree.  I think a teaser next week with actual info on Monday 3/7. 

Someone commented on a few pages ago with a post having 7 “U” s in it.   It fed off Dimi’s post saying U will be happy soon...  Was random and prob nothing, but I always count things in groups (strange, I know) and counted 7.  So I’ve been thinking either 7 more days or 3/7 for announcement.  Lol

There is NO need for teasers. This isn't a new tour announcement that needs to be hyped up, this is a rescheduled tour for which most people already have their tickets. Just release the dates. Any new dates will just be a bonus.

If they are offering 10 Club members a shot at remaining tickets before the general public, there will be a teaser to make sure your membership is active before a certain date. 

JimmyV

mpedone said:

JimmyV said:

Interesting to see if helping owners who locked out their workforce recoup revenue lost because of that lockout becomes an issue. 

I mean, the owners haven't changed over the years; this labor situation is just a pointed reminder of that. If the band or its fans hasn't had issues padding these owners' pockets in the past, why should it become an issue now? 

I'm not saying it will or even that it should. But if this turns into a long, 1994-style work stoppage I can see a scenario where it becomes an issue for some bands. It's not a strike. The workforce is locked out. 

Kevinman

Weston1283 said:

Kevinman said:

Weston1283 said:

MLB owners could be open to handing out especially big paydays for concerts this year.

The MLB lockout situation is horrible and the owners and players are miles apart, and there’s a very real possibility there won’t be games for a good portion of the season, so they’ll be looking to fill the seats another way.

I would lock in Fenway for August 19th and 20th, Wrigley sometime around that, and I’m not ruling out some other ballparks (Camden, Philly, etc) as well

They may not want to book open dates now because of potential make up games later in the year?

I doubt any games would be made up, they would just be lost.  Part of the agreement is to extend the playoffs which already go into early November, so I don’t see a scenario where they make up any games that are lost.

Probably right about games not being made up, but I would imagine schedule(date) changes.  Might cut out inter league play or rearrange schedules to make sure inter division games are equal.

RatherStarved

I think there are enough hints.  They said stay tuned for updates in the last newsletter.  They said early 2022 in the November email.  Their social media has been posting ballparks and even something like there’s nothing like a home show.  I still think they’ll make us wait until the 7th but it’s not for lack of clues.  

Habit4me

So who's collecting the interest on the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been thrown into people sitting on their 10c tickets the last 2 years?

Pearl Jam or Ticketmaster?

Cause I sure as shit haven't recieved any sort of kick back.

JFC