Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti August 03 at 7:26 PM ET The Biden administration is preparing to begin offering coronavirus vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along the Mexico border, where illegal crossings are at their highest levels in over two decades and health officials are struggling with soaring numbers of infections, according to two Department of Homeland Security officials with knowledge of the plan. Until now, only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities. Under the broad outlines of the new plan, DHS would vaccinate migrants soon after they cross into the United States as they await processing by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said. The Biden administration plans to use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, whose single-dose regimen is better suited to a transient population that may not be able to coordinate a second shot, the DHS officials said. In a statement, DHS spokesperson Meira Bernstein said the department will “continue to monitor and reassess” its pandemic protocols, but she insisted that no decisions have been made. “At this time, our protocols have not changed,” she said.
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Why didn't Biden mandate vaccinations for illegal immigrants wanting to enter the United States? That seems like a no-brainer to me.
Because everyone knows that if President Biden announced it, there’d be a flood of Central and South Americans streaming across the border and taking covid vaccinations away from deserving ‘Muricans, resulting in untold hundreds of thousands of more deaths of true, patriotic ‘Muricans. President Biden doesn’t want that on his conscience and knows it’s political suicide. Plus, Ivermectin is available south of the border so no worries.
Why didn't Biden mandate vaccinations for illegal immigrants wanting to enter the United States? That seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
my guess is it will fall on the employers to pay for the testing. but they may make it so the government reimburses them.
in my opinion it should fall on the employees who refuse to get vaccinated. start taking money out of their pocket every week and you will be surprised at how fast they change their mind.
if i had 103 employees and did not want to have to pay to test the unvaccinated ones, i would fire 4 of them to be under 100 employees. but that is just where my head is at with these fucking antivaxxers these days.
This plays perfectly into the non vaxer mantra though.
Everything can be twisted into "SEE, they are forcing you to take it, no freedom!!!"
They will double down now and the numbers won't change much.
I am expecting lawsuits soon.
Annnnnd Trump has said the vaccine is good. Go figure...
Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
If that’s the case, I think a lot of unvaccinated folks will be the ones collecting unemployment soon
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
If that’s the case, I think a lot of unvaccinated folks will be the ones collecting unemployment soon
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
Yes, you can. I say that as a non union employer, but we had this evaluated by an employment law firm months ago. There are some "reasonable accommodations" issues, but this was even before yesterday's news.
Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
If that’s the case, I think a lot of unvaccinated folks will be the ones collecting unemployment soon
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
Yes, you can. I say that as a non union employer, but we had this evaluated by an employment law firm months ago. There are some "reasonable accommodations" issues, but this was even before yesterday's news.
People brought this up to the unions here in NY and the Unions said "get the vaccine".
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
If that’s the case, I think a lot of unvaccinated folks will be the ones collecting unemployment soon
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
doubt they will collect. fired for cause means no check....
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
my guess is it will fall on the employers to pay for the testing. but they may make it so the government reimburses them.
in my opinion it should fall on the employees who refuse to get vaccinated. start taking money out of their pocket every week and you will be surprised at how fast they change their mind.
if i had 103 employees and did not want to have to pay to test the unvaccinated ones, i would fire 4 of them to be under 100 employees. but that is just where my head is at with these fucking antivaxxers these days.
This plays perfectly into the non vaxer mantra though.
Everything can be twisted into "SEE, they are forcing you to take it, no freedom!!!"
They will double down now and the numbers won't change much.
I am expecting lawsuits soon.
Annnnnd Trump has said the vaccine is good. Go figure...
Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
my guess is it will fall on the employers to pay for the testing. but they may make it so the government reimburses them.
in my opinion it should fall on the employees who refuse to get vaccinated. start taking money out of their pocket every week and you will be surprised at how fast they change their mind.
if i had 103 employees and did not want to have to pay to test the unvaccinated ones, i would fire 4 of them to be under 100 employees. but that is just where my head is at with these fucking antivaxxers these days.
This plays perfectly into the non vaxer mantra though.
Everything can be twisted into "SEE, they are forcing you to take it, no freedom!!!"
They will double down now and the numbers won't change much.
I am expecting lawsuits soon.
Annnnnd Trump has said the vaccine is good. Go figure...
well if hospitals are going to have to purchase all these tests to test their own unvaxxed, that means they will not buy things from me, so either way my business is hosed.
trump said the vaccines were good, but he never told his supporters specifically to get the shots. his supporters feel that they shots were held back to hurt trump politically, so they will not take it due to spite. morons.
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
We are. State mandate was already in place beginning this week. I just pushed forward on ordering 1,000 tests from Cue Health for our unvaccinated employees. That's $70,000 on product alone not counting all the staff hours we'll end up putting in to this whole shit show. Between the tests and getting people to submit their vaccination proof, it's been pretty much all a lot of people have been working on the last 2 weeks.
If that’s the case, I think a lot of unvaccinated folks will be the ones collecting unemployment soon
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
doubt they will collect. fired for cause means no check....
and at that one rally where he said to get the shots, he got booed.
That may have been a bit of a game changer. Soon after, he said he won’t be getting the booster. If MAGA takes the legislative and executive branches, they’ll move us backwards as much as they can.
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and at that one rally where he said to get the shots, he got booed.
That may have been a bit of a game changer. Soon after, he said he won’t be getting the booster. If MAGA takes the legislative and executive branches, they’ll move us backwards as much as they can.
they are already trying to steal the governorship of california and replace feinstein with a maga senator.
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Wonder if employers or employees will have to cover costs of testing workers who refuse to get vaccinated
my guess is it will fall on the employers to pay for the testing. but they may make it so the government reimburses them.
in my opinion it should fall on the employees who refuse to get vaccinated. start taking money out of their pocket every week and you will be surprised at how fast they change their mind.
if i had 103 employees and did not want to have to pay to test the unvaccinated ones, i would fire 4 of them to be under 100 employees. but that is just where my head is at with these fucking antivaxxers these days.
This plays perfectly into the non vaxer mantra though.
Everything can be twisted into "SEE, they are forcing you to take it, no freedom!!!"
They will double down now and the numbers won't change much.
I am expecting lawsuits soon.
Annnnnd Trump has said the vaccine is good. Go figure...
#iI WillNOTComply was trending on twitter last night. basically a bunch of antivaxxers saying they will not get the vaccine even if mandated. the other part of it is vaccinated people dunking on them.
the interesting thing to me is the i will not comply people are the exact same people who are saying women must comply with the new texas abortion law, and that unarmed black men should have complied with police officers. the irony is unbearable at this point.
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I run a private practice and I guess I still am wondering about clarification for private medical facilities
We have under 10 employees, and while we are a “medical” office, we are not employed by the hospital, so it is a private entity
Wish they would provide more guidance on private medical offices and entities, as I would like to ask about vaxx status and enforce it in the office, but also don’t have the time or resources to fight a discrimination or wrongful termination battle, or pay unemployment
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While I understand the excitement of the new rules and regulations regarding covid vaccinations, I can’t help but feel this is just what the Republicans need for a big win in the mid terms and 2024. I really think it is a mistake to generalize that all of the anti vaccine people are trump supporters. A lot of people will flock to the polls to vote for the party that isn’t forcing them to get a shot with zero thought to the rest of their personal politics. As much as I would like everyone to be vaccinated and for us to get past covid, I just don’t see that the White Houses new policy doing much other than inflaming and dividing an already divided country.
Further why aren’t we testing people for natural antibodies etc? I think a lot of people would like for that to be part of the guiding plan going forward.
While I understand the excitement of the new rules and regulations regarding covid vaccinations, I can’t help but feel this is just what the Republicans need for a big win in the mid terms and 2024. I really think it is a mistake to generalize that all of the anti vaccine people are trump supporters. A lot of people will flock to the polls to vote for the party that isn’t forcing them to get a shot with zero thought to the rest of their personal politics. As much as I would like everyone to be vaccinated and for us to get past covid, I just don’t see that the White Houses new policy doing much other than inflaming and dividing an already divided country.
Further why aren’t we testing people for natural antibodies etc? I think a lot of people would like for that to be part of the guiding plan going forward.
Yeah, but on the other hand, vaccine mandates are nothing new in America and lives are literally at stake.
At some point or another we need to stop catering to and being afraid of the minority of Americans who insist on acting like petulant toddlers.
While I understand the excitement of the new rules and regulations regarding covid vaccinations, I can’t help but feel this is just what the Republicans need for a big win in the mid terms and 2024. I really think it is a mistake to generalize that all of the anti vaccine people are trump supporters. A lot of people will flock to the polls to vote for the party that isn’t forcing them to get a shot with zero thought to the rest of their personal politics. As much as I would like everyone to be vaccinated and for us to get past covid, I just don’t see that the White Houses new policy doing much other than inflaming and dividing an already divided country.
Further why aren’t we testing people for natural antibodies etc? I think a lot of people would like for that to be part of the guiding plan going forward.
All biden will have to do in 2 years is post the death numbers now in 2021 next to the death number in 2023. then we'll see how much support he'll lose.
While I understand the excitement of the new rules and regulations regarding covid vaccinations, I can’t help but feel this is just what the Republicans need for a big win in the mid terms and 2024. I really think it is a mistake to generalize that all of the anti vaccine people are trump supporters. A lot of people will flock to the polls to vote for the party that isn’t forcing them to get a shot with zero thought to the rest of their personal politics. As much as I would like everyone to be vaccinated and for us to get past covid, I just don’t see that the White Houses new policy doing much other than inflaming and dividing an already divided country.
Further why aren’t we testing people for natural antibodies etc? I think a lot of people would like for that to be part of the guiding plan going forward.
All biden will have to do in 2 years is post the death numbers now in 2021 next to the death number in 2023. then we'll see how much support he'll lose.
& even if he loses, he's doing what's best for the country right now, regardless of how that might impact his chances at re-election.
While I understand the excitement of the new rules and regulations regarding covid vaccinations, I can’t help but feel this is just what the Republicans need for a big win in the mid terms and 2024. I really think it is a mistake to generalize that all of the anti vaccine people are trump supporters. A lot of people will flock to the polls to vote for the party that isn’t forcing them to get a shot with zero thought to the rest of their personal politics. As much as I would like everyone to be vaccinated and for us to get past covid, I just don’t see that the White Houses new policy doing much other than inflaming and dividing an already divided country.
Further why aren’t we testing people for natural antibodies etc? I think a lot of people would like for that to be part of the guiding plan going forward.
All biden will have to do in 2 years is post the death numbers now in 2021 next to the death number in 2023. then we'll see how much support he'll lose.
& even if he loses, he's doing what's best for the country right now, regardless of how that might impact his chances at re-election.
I mean... isn't that what we want in a leader?
I also don’t want my leaders to walk off the side of the cliff in order to take the high road.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-vaccines-migrants-border/2021/08/03/afaff516-f471-11eb-83e7-06a8a299c310_story.html
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
August 03 at 7:26 PM ET
The Biden administration is preparing to begin offering coronavirus vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along the Mexico border, where illegal crossings are at their highest levels in over two decades and health officials are struggling with soaring numbers of infections, according to two Department of Homeland Security officials with knowledge of the plan.
Until now, only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities. Under the broad outlines of the new plan, DHS would vaccinate migrants soon after they cross into the United States as they await processing by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said.
The Biden administration plans to use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, whose single-dose regimen is better suited to a transient population that may not be able to coordinate a second shot, the DHS officials said.
In a statement, DHS spokesperson Meira Bernstein said the department will “continue to monitor and reassess” its pandemic protocols, but she insisted that no decisions have been made. “At this time, our protocols have not changed,” she said.
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Everything can be twisted into "SEE, they are forcing you to take it, no freedom!!!"
They will double down now and the numbers won't change much.
I am expecting lawsuits soon.
Annnnnd Trump has said the vaccine is good. Go figure...
Anyone know if there’s any protections for employers who want to terminate an employee due to vaccine resistance? Aka can you fire someone for that
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doubt they will collect. fired for cause means no check....
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trump said the vaccines were good, but he never told his supporters specifically to get the shots. his supporters feel that they shots were held back to hurt trump politically, so they will not take it due to spite. morons.
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the interesting thing to me is the i will not comply people are the exact same people who are saying women must comply with the new texas abortion law, and that unarmed black men should have complied with police officers. the irony is unbearable at this point.
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We have under 10 employees, and while we are a “medical” office, we are not employed by the hospital, so it is a private entity
Wish they would provide more guidance on private medical offices and entities, as I would like to ask about vaxx status and enforce it in the office, but also don’t have the time or resources to fight a discrimination or wrongful termination battle, or pay unemployment
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Yeah, but on the other hand, vaccine mandates are nothing new in America and lives are literally at stake.
At some point or another we need to stop catering to and being afraid of the minority of Americans who insist on acting like petulant toddlers.
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& even if he loses, he's doing what's best for the country right now, regardless of how that might impact his chances at re-election.
I mean... isn't that what we want in a leader?
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