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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
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    nicknyr15 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/14/us/memphis-fake-vaccination-cards-us-border-patrol/index.html
    Awful. If they get through customs…Typos, unfinished words… no one is looking that closely when they are rushing you through security at a concert or theater or anywhere. 
    “Forging the cards is a federal crime, punishable by a fine and up to five years in prison for forging government seals found on the card.” 
    What is the punishment for those buying & using the fake cards? 
    The real question is why did they use such basic easily copiable designs and card stock?

    how much do you think 330 million cards would cost?
    Less than the endless wars, and corporate giveaways…

    piss poor deflection.
    right I forgot this is America where we don't think twice about spending on waste, but nickel and dime ourselves to death over the things that matter

    another piss poor deflection.
    So we can print trillions due to the pandemic but we can’t print uncounterfeitable vaxx cards. Makes sense in america…I guess. Maybe we can get a refund on Afghanistan?
    It's pretty sad that we have to think about stuff like that.  I'm not sure it was top of mind when this was trying to be rolled out ASAP...but I guess it should have been.  They have all the records...perhaps develop cards and mail to houses?  Or better yet, develop an app for a digital card?
    But do you really hold back on the vaccination process while you build a fake proof, centralized federal system?  That seems like a bad idea.  A few fakes is less of a risk than stalling the process of vaccinating.  
    I certainly don;t think you hold up shots in arms for it.  And I think you could do some retroactively...as I said they should have all the data somewhere.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    we have a backlog of vaxx cards but that isn't holding up shots. not sure why anyone would think one would hold back the other. we do get our QR codes electronically instantly after applying, however. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    we have a backlog of vaxx cards but that isn't holding up shots. not sure why anyone would think one would hold back the other. we do get our QR codes electronically instantly after applying, however. 
    I don't understand your methodology here.  Can you explain?  And was it in production when the vaccine rolled out, and is it fraud proof?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited August 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    we have a backlog of vaxx cards but that isn't holding up shots. not sure why anyone would think one would hold back the other. we do get our QR codes electronically instantly after applying, however. 
    I don't understand your methodology here.  Can you explain?  And was it in production when the vaccine rolled out, and is it fraud proof?
    I think the difference here is that when we made our appointment to get our shots, the appointment was tied in with our Manitoba Health information. so after you are 2 weeks past your second shot, you go to this website, you confirm that it is you by signing up with your health info, and instantly you get a QR code that confirms you are fully vaccinated. If you want, you can also ask for physical card, which I got about 2 weeks later. the QR code ONLY confirms you are fully vaccinated; it contains no other health or personal information. and the physical card has the QR code on the back, and when presenting it for entrance to an event, the name on the the card needs to jive with your government issued ID (SIN card, driver's license, etc). 
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  • Renfield
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    I'm off to get my shot!

    C'ya in a bit!
    So….did you get the upgraded chip as suggested by @oftenreading?   Hope all went smoothly. 
    I’m good so far.  My 5G is superb.  Arm hurts from the needle which is expected.  Wearing my mask indoors as I should.  Hand sanitizer at the ready.  Got my 10,000 steps in today.

    I hopefully am good to go my friend.  TY for asking.
    Glad to hear all is good.
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  • josevolution
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    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
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  • Spunkie
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     "A new glocalization should advance in tandem with reduced air travel, local production, smart growth, and greatly reduced automobile trips, among other measures. Adapted locally but with a globally cooperative ethic, these measures may be the best way to simultaneously alleviate the rapidly moving pandemic crisis and the slower moving environmental crisis."

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  • PJNB
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    edited August 2021
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,216
    PJNB said:
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited August 2021
    nicknyr15 said:
    PJNB said:
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? I am assuming it is more anecdotal evidence.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,216
    PJNB said:
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    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
  • PJNB
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    nicknyr15 said:
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    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
    I agree with it always being a thing but  up to 1 in 5 at SHN will have a fake card just seems way too high to me. 
  • nicknyr15
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    PJNB said:
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    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
    I agree with it always being a thing but  up to 1 in 5 at SHN will have a fake card just seems way too high to me. 
    I hope I’m waaaayyyyyyyyyy off. 
  • PJNB
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    nicknyr15 said:
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    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
    I agree with it always being a thing but  up to 1 in 5 at SHN will have a fake card just seems way too high to me. 
    I hope I’m waaaayyyyyyyyyy off. 
    Even if you are close Lolla was a success by their standards so maybe it really does not matter one way or another outdoors too much. It seems to me at least that outside events can happen in certain states at the moment and not put too much of an impact on the healthcare system. 
  • nicknyr15
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    PJNB said:
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    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
    I agree with it always being a thing but  up to 1 in 5 at SHN will have a fake card just seems way too high to me. 
    I hope I’m waaaayyyyyyyyyy off. 
    Even if you are close Lolla was a success by their standards so maybe it really does not matter one way or another outdoors too much. It seems to me at least that outside events can happen in certain states at the moment and not put too much of an impact on the healthcare system. 
    I agree 100%. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gotta love Tejas, more guns, less vaccination. What could possibly go wrong?

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  • josevolution
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    PJNB said:
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    Folks have been using fake cards since the hockey playoffs! That’s when I 1st heard about them..
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    josevolution said:
    PJNB said:
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    Folks have been using fake cards since the hockey playoffs! That’s when I 1st heard about them..
    I am not saying they are not out there. I was asking why you would use the word plenty.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    edited August 2021
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    PJNB said:
    nicknyr15 said:
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    PJNB said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    PJNB said:
    josevolution said:
    Yep plenty of fake cards at all events! SHN will be no different..
    Lolla was a success with the same rules as SHN. It will be a ok either way. Also what is plenty to you and how do you know that there are plenty at all events?
    If I have to guess I’d say 10-20% will have fake cards. 
    What are you basing this off of? 
    I’m low balling honestly. Everyone knows someone who sells fake cards in the city.  The few people I know literally cannot keep enough to meet demand. It’s a shitty situation but not a surprising one. Forged document will always be a thing. 
    I agree with it always being a thing but  up to 1 in 5 at SHN will have a fake card just seems way too high to me. 
    I hope I’m waaaayyyyyyyyyy off. 
    Even if you are close Lolla was a success by their standards so maybe it really does not matter one way or another outdoors too much. It seems to me at least that outside events can happen in certain states at the moment and not put too much of an impact on the healthcare system. 
    Is anyone going to do tracing for it like say Sturgis?  Let's see if it was a success.
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