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  • nicknyr15 said:
    at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.

    you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum. 

    i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it. 
    Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people.  I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring. 
    no. 

    the unvaccinated are taking up all of the hospital beds here. that means no elective surgeries happen because there are no rooms and beds to put people. 90+% of these inpatients are unvaccinated, therefore preventable. now my access to my biggest accounts is limited because of this. if there are no surgeries, i am not selling anything and my business is retracting instead of growing. i have a 500K sale on the table that i am going to fucking lose again for the 2nd year in a row because surgeries and surgical income is down at those facilites. i can understand last year because there was no vaccine. now there are vaccines for everyone and i am going to lose 45k this year because of these people refusing to take it. 

    they do not want the vaccine? they can isolate from society and stay home and let the rest of us go about our lives as normal. i am so sick of accommodating the unvaccinated.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    nicknyr15 said:
    at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.

    you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum. 

    i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it. 
    Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people.  I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring. 
    no. 

    the unvaccinated are taking up all of the hospital beds here. that means no elective surgeries happen because there are no rooms and beds to put people. 90+% of these inpatients are unvaccinated, therefore preventable. now my access to my biggest accounts is limited because of this. if there are no surgeries, i am not selling anything and my business is retracting instead of growing. i have a 500K sale on the table that i am going to fucking lose again for the 2nd year in a row because surgeries and surgical income is down at those facilites. i can understand last year because there was no vaccine. now there are vaccines for everyone and i am going to lose 45k this year because of these people refusing to take it. 

    they do not want the vaccine? they can isolate from society and stay home and let the rest of us go about our lives as normal. i am so sick of accommodating the unvaccinated.
    Yup

    Deplorable little snowflakes want all the benefits of our society but none of the responsibility. 

     
    Fuck the anti vaxxers. 

    They are holding us back and prolonging this pandemic. 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.

    you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum. 

    i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it. 
    Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people.  I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring. 
    no. 

    the unvaccinated are taking up all of the hospital beds here. that means no elective surgeries happen because there are no rooms and beds to put people. 90+% of these inpatients are unvaccinated, therefore preventable. now my access to my biggest accounts is limited because of this. if there are no surgeries, i am not selling anything and my business is retracting instead of growing. i have a 500K sale on the table that i am going to fucking lose again for the 2nd year in a row because surgeries and surgical income is down at those facilites. i can understand last year because there was no vaccine. now there are vaccines for everyone and i am going to lose 45k this year because of these people refusing to take it. 

    they do not want the vaccine? they can isolate from society and stay home and let the rest of us go about our lives as normal. i am so sick of accommodating the unvaccinated.
    Yup

    Deplorable little snowflakes want all the benefits of our society but none of the responsibility. 

     
    Fuck the anti vaxxers. 

    They are holding us back and prolonging this pandemic. 
    we should be on the other side of this thing. but nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

    fucking rugged individualists gotta go and play around and find out the hard way.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,035
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,602
    Pfizer on track for full approval early Sept....

    removes that as an excuse....
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  • You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    i agree. i'm going to enjoy our current lack of restrictions while they last. I don't expect them to last more than 2 months. going to a football game tonight with 30,000 other people. all vaccinated (over 12). I'm nervous about it. take in a concert or two and then hunker down for what will be a long and probably depressing winter. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,035
    From Letters From an American:

    Today seemed to mark a popular backlash against Republican lawmakers who have been downplaying the coronavirus pandemic. The Delta variant of the deadly virus is ripping through unvaccinated populations in the U.S. with an average of 85,000 new cases a day, numbers that rival those of February, before we had accessible vaccines. One in three cases in the nation comes from either Florida or Texas.

    Deathsantis & Abbott & Costello 2024

    But we're worried about migrants crossing the border and traveling around.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,602
    From Letters From an American:

    Today seemed to mark a popular backlash against Republican lawmakers who have been downplaying the coronavirus pandemic. The Delta variant of the deadly virus is ripping through unvaccinated populations in the U.S. with an average of 85,000 new cases a day, numbers that rival those of February, before we had accessible vaccines. One in three cases in the nation comes from either Florida or Texas.

    Deathsantis & Abbott & Costello 2024

    But we're worried about migrants crossing the border and traveling around.

    sooo how do they know its spreading through migrants? catch, test and release?
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  • mickeyrat said:
    Pfizer on track for full approval early Sept....

    removes that as an excuse....
    gives them a few weeks to come up with another one. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,035
    From Letters From an American. Freakin death cult. Added it to this thread because its so point on. And its madness, complete, deranged, madness. Yet, TDS is an issue? We're screwed.

    August 4, 2021
    Heather Cox Richardson
    Aug 5  
     
     

    Today seemed to mark a popular backlash against Republican lawmakers who have been downplaying the coronavirus pandemic. The Delta variant of the deadly virus is ripping through unvaccinated populations in the U.S. with an average of 85,000 new cases a day, numbers that rival those of February, before we had accessible vaccines. One in three cases in the nation comes from either Florida or Texas.
    Lawmakers in South Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, and Utah have prohibited schools from requiring masks, and South Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Montana, Arizona, South Dakota, Texas, and Tennessee prohibit local governments from doing so.

    Yesterday, President Joe Biden called out governors, especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Texas Governor Greg Abbott, for banning mask mandates and refusing to require the vaccine. At a press conference, Biden said “to these governors, ‘Please, help.’ But if you aren’t going to help, at least get out of the way of the people who are trying to do the right thing. Use your power to save lives.”
    Today DeSantis responded: “I am standing in your way.” After sitting on Biden’s criticism for almost a day, DeSantis could find as a response only an attack on Biden for allegedly ignoring the “border crisis.” DeSantis blamed Florida’s devastating virus numbers on immigrants coming over the nation’s border with Mexico into Texas. 

    The recent attention to the methods of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who rose to power by stoking anti-immigrant hatred and who continues to whip up a frenzy over immigration despite the fact that refugees coming into Hungary have dropped to unremarkable levels, shows the Republican fallback on immigrant caravans to distract from their own scandals in a new light. 

    In fact, our southern border remains closed because of public health directives put in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Unaccompanied minors are admitted so that they do not become victims of gangs or sex traffickers, and their numbers likely hit an all-time high of about 19,000 in July. Those children are processed and then transferred to facilities run by the Department of Health and Human Services, which then finds suitable foster situations for them while they await immigration hearings. 

    Interestingly in terms of the timing of DeSantis’s outburst, today the Mexican government sued a number of U.S.-based gun manufacturers for lax controls that permit illegal weapons to flow over the border. A 2016 study by the U.S. Government Accountability Office showed that about 70% of the weapons seized in Mexico came from the United States.

    Back in the U.S., the president has mandated vaccines in the federal government and has asked private employers to require vaccines. Google, Walmart, Disney World, and Microsoft, among many others, including hospitals and more than 400 private universities, are requiring masks or vaccines. So is Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker, who today issued a mask requirement for schools and a vaccine mandate for workers in state prisons and other facilities. 

    By Labor Day, the Food and Drug Administration is expected to give final approval to coronavirus vaccines, reassuring people reluctant to get the vaccine that it is safe. 

    Increasingly, people dying of Covid-19 or their survivors are publicly begging their friends and neighbors to get the vaccine. In addition to videos and facebook posts, a six-minute television segment on CBS This Morning featured Republican Representative Julia Letlow of Louisiana, who lost her husband to the disease in December. She is using her story to try to change people’s minds about refusing the vaccine. 

    Implied in these calls to ignore the disinformation out there about the vaccine is criticism of those Republican leaders who have pushed that disinformation. 

    Rising case numbers put lawmakers who have downplayed the virus in a tight spot. A new poll today from St. Pete Polls shows that DeSantis’s popularity has fallen behind that of a Democratic rival, Charlie Crist, in the 2022 governor’s race. Forty-nine percent of Floridians disapprove of DeSantis’s job performance, while only 44% approve. He is in positive numbers only with voters older than 70. In contrast to the older folks, most voters disapprove of his opposition to masks in schools. 

    Other Republican governors have expressed regret that they were so quick to outlaw masks. Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson today said he wished he hadn’t signed into law a measure banning state and local mask mandates. He has called the legislature into special session to change the law, claiming that he signed the previous measure because “I knew it would be overridden by the legislature if I didn't sign it.”
    The new spike in infections has meant an uptick in vaccinations, with numbers matching those of early July. On Tuesday, Jeff Zients, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, reported that Louisiana has seen a 302% increase in the average number of newly vaccinated per day; Mississippi, 250%; Alabama, 215%; and Arkansas, 206%. On Tuesday, almost a month late, the nation met the goal President Joe Biden had set for July 4 of having at least one vaccine shot in 70% of eligible Americans. About 49% of all eligible Americans have been fully vaccinated.

    Today, two parents of school-aged children in Arkansas sued the state over its law banning the use of masks in schools. They are seeking immediate “protection from an irrational act of legislative madness that threatens K-12 public school children with irreparable harm.” “Without immediate intervention by the Arkansas judiciary,” the lawsuit says, “the restrictions imposed on state and local officials by Act 1002 will result in many more Arkansas children becoming very sick, and some of them will inevitably die.”
    —-

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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,881
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
    This one is making a lot of elderly x2 vax very ill. We had to call an ambulance  last night  for the father in law.  And my neighbour  same x2 vaccine in icu. And its spreading like fire. Its only a matter of time until its at my door
     
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  • From Letters From an American. Freakin death cult. Added it to this thread because its so point on. And its madness, complete, deranged, madness. Yet, TDS is an issue? We're screwed.

    August 4, 2021
    Heather Cox Richardson
    Aug 5  
     
     

    Today seemed to mark a popular backlash against Republican lawmakers who have been downplaying the coronavirus pandemic. The Delta variant of the deadly virus is ripping through unvaccinated populations in the U.S. with an average of 85,000 new cases a day, numbers that rival those of February, before we had accessible vaccines. One in three cases in the nation comes from either Florida or Texas.
    Lawmakers in South Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, and Utah have prohibited schools from requiring masks, and South Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Montana, Arizona, South Dakota, Texas, and Tennessee prohibit local governments from doing so.

    Yesterday, President Joe Biden called out governors, especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Texas Governor Greg Abbott, for banning mask mandates and refusing to require the vaccine. At a press conference, Biden said “to these governors, ‘Please, help.’ But if you aren’t going to help, at least get out of the way of the people who are trying to do the right thing. Use your power to save lives.”
    Today DeSantis responded: “I am standing in your way.” After sitting on Biden’s criticism for almost a day, DeSantis could find as a response only an attack on Biden for allegedly ignoring the “border crisis.” DeSantis blamed Florida’s devastating virus numbers on immigrants coming over the nation’s border with Mexico into Texas. 

    The recent attention to the methods of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who rose to power by stoking anti-immigrant hatred and who continues to whip up a frenzy over immigration despite the fact that refugees coming into Hungary have dropped to unremarkable levels, shows the Republican fallback on immigrant caravans to distract from their own scandals in a new light. 

    In fact, our southern border remains closed because of public health directives put in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Unaccompanied minors are admitted so that they do not become victims of gangs or sex traffickers, and their numbers likely hit an all-time high of about 19,000 in July. Those children are processed and then transferred to facilities run by the Department of Health and Human Services, which then finds suitable foster situations for them while they await immigration hearings. 

    Interestingly in terms of the timing of DeSantis’s outburst, today the Mexican government sued a number of U.S.-based gun manufacturers for lax controls that permit illegal weapons to flow over the border. A 2016 study by the U.S. Government Accountability Office showed that about 70% of the weapons seized in Mexico came from the United States.

    Back in the U.S., the president has mandated vaccines in the federal government and has asked private employers to require vaccines. Google, Walmart, Disney World, and Microsoft, among many others, including hospitals and more than 400 private universities, are requiring masks or vaccines. So is Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker, who today issued a mask requirement for schools and a vaccine mandate for workers in state prisons and other facilities. 

    By Labor Day, the Food and Drug Administration is expected to give final approval to coronavirus vaccines, reassuring people reluctant to get the vaccine that it is safe. 

    Increasingly, people dying of Covid-19 or their survivors are publicly begging their friends and neighbors to get the vaccine. In addition to videos and facebook posts, a six-minute television segment on CBS This Morning featured Republican Representative Julia Letlow of Louisiana, who lost her husband to the disease in December. She is using her story to try to change people’s minds about refusing the vaccine. 

    Implied in these calls to ignore the disinformation out there about the vaccine is criticism of those Republican leaders who have pushed that disinformation. 

    Rising case numbers put lawmakers who have downplayed the virus in a tight spot. A new poll today from St. Pete Polls shows that DeSantis’s popularity has fallen behind that of a Democratic rival, Charlie Crist, in the 2022 governor’s race. Forty-nine percent of Floridians disapprove of DeSantis’s job performance, while only 44% approve. He is in positive numbers only with voters older than 70. In contrast to the older folks, most voters disapprove of his opposition to masks in schools. 

    Other Republican governors have expressed regret that they were so quick to outlaw masks. Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson today said he wished he hadn’t signed into law a measure banning state and local mask mandates. He has called the legislature into special session to change the law, claiming that he signed the previous measure because “I knew it would be overridden by the legislature if I didn't sign it.”
    The new spike in infections has meant an uptick in vaccinations, with numbers matching those of early July. On Tuesday, Jeff Zients, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, reported that Louisiana has seen a 302% increase in the average number of newly vaccinated per day; Mississippi, 250%; Alabama, 215%; and Arkansas, 206%. On Tuesday, almost a month late, the nation met the goal President Joe Biden had set for July 4 of having at least one vaccine shot in 70% of eligible Americans. About 49% of all eligible Americans have been fully vaccinated.

    Today, two parents of school-aged children in Arkansas sued the state over its law banning the use of masks in schools. They are seeking immediate “protection from an irrational act of legislative madness that threatens K-12 public school children with irreparable harm.” “Without immediate intervention by the Arkansas judiciary,” the lawsuit says, “the restrictions imposed on state and local officials by Act 1002 will result in many more Arkansas children becoming very sick, and some of them will inevitably die.”
    —-

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
    This one is making a lot of elderly x2 vax very ill. We had to call an ambulance  last night  for the father in law.  And my neighbour  same x2 vaccine in icu. And its spreading like fire. Its only a matter of time until its at my door
     
    It shows cases trending down for the past few weeks Rob.  Look at that as a bright side.  Are we still on for the 10th?  I'll message u on Whats app.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,881
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
    This one is making a lot of elderly x2 vax very ill. We had to call an ambulance  last night  for the father in law.  And my neighbour  same x2 vaccine in icu. And its spreading like fire. Its only a matter of time until its at my door
     
    It shows cases trending down for the past few weeks Rob.  Look at that as a bright side.  Are we still on for the 10th?  I'll message u on Whats app.
    Yes please  mate. The  cases on the  government  site are  wrong. Its at 60.000 a day and this  area is heavy.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:
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    CM189191 said:

    I love this. 

    Doug Ford's daughter posted this anti-vax rant on social media the other day... it's getting buzz around here. (For those unaware, Doug Ford is Ontario's Premier.. which is like a state Governor for you Americans) 

    In the video she starts questioning a pamphlet that was sent out by the federal government saying the vaccines are safe. And when she reads to her audience that part she says "We better check that one" in reference to the pamphlet saying that the vaccines are safe and will not give you Covid. 

    It's my understanding that some folks are skeptical and have these questions... someone posted earlier "Why can't we ask questions?"

    To those folks and to Ford's daughter.. who to no surprise had no avenue to go down here... in terms of "Checking" who do you go to for said checking?  It has been checked.  By experts. Lots of them. It's not just the big bad government saying this. In the face of this information... this factual information... why is there so much push back? 

    I have no idea why... but it honestly seems that some people actually seek out false information as if the factual and real information is somehow not good enough. Kind of mind boggling.  At what point does understandable skepticism become irrational paranoia?
    That's the Ford family for you.  Drugie Fraud Ford is in way over his head...
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    Is he related to that crazy Toronto mayor?  Rob Ford?
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    Is he related to that crazy Toronto mayor?  Rob Ford?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    OnWis97 said:
    Is he related to that crazy Toronto mayor?  Rob Ford?
    Yes.  They are brothers.  Both were dealing drugs...lol.  The old man kept them out of jail is the story.  Maybe someone in Toronto knows the story better...

    The old man was a successful businessman and Member of Parliament...

    And Drugie Fraud Ford is leading in the polls with an election less than a year away...lol
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
    This one is making a lot of elderly x2 vax very ill. We had to call an ambulance  last night  for the father in law.  And my neighbour  same x2 vaccine in icu. And its spreading like fire. Its only a matter of time until its at my door
     
    Best of luck to your FIL, Rob, and your other loved ones. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,881
    You're going to be tired when the fourth wave hits this fall/winter and the virus morphs into something that the vaccinated will get and end up extremely sick and/or all those under 12s who can't currently be vaccinated start dropping like flies. All because the unvaccinated don't want to trust the science, learn from history or want to own the libs. If you're not listening to and hearing the concerns of the scientific community on this, you simply don't care about society or your roll in it. Its going to be ugly.
    Let's hope that when it mutates it is weaker than the last one.
    This one is making a lot of elderly x2 vax very ill. We had to call an ambulance  last night  for the father in law.  And my neighbour  same x2 vaccine in icu. And its spreading like fire. Its only a matter of time until its at my door
     
    Best of luck to your FIL, Rob, and your other loved ones. 
    Thank you very much.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    And worst part is that in announcing his death, the GOP orgs didn't mention it was from COVID.  So they could have taken this opportunity to encourage their party members to get vaccinated, but instead chose to ignore it...some more.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,881
    You  see instead of angry it makes  me sad. This  world  we live in. Is fucked
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  • It's like....I have a few friends who are avid fishermen.....don't know how to swim.....don't wear life jackets....drink on the boat....I mean, sure, it's unlikely that something is going to happen, but why do everything in your power to make sure you will die if it does?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    mrussel1 said:
    And worst part is that in announcing his death, the GOP orgs didn't mention it was from COVID.  So they could have taken this opportunity to encourage their party members to get vaccinated, but instead chose to ignore it...some more.

    They genuinely think they're owning libs by dying from COVID.


    2021 is something else. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    It's like....I have a few friends who are avid fishermen.....don't know how to swim.....don't wear life jackets....drink on the boat....I mean, sure, it's unlikely that something is going to happen, but why do everything in your power to make sure you will die if it does?
    You know people who can't swim?  That's odd right there. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    It's like....I have a few friends who are avid fishermen.....don't know how to swim.....don't wear life jackets....drink on the boat....I mean, sure, it's unlikely that something is going to happen, but why do everything in your power to make sure you will die if it does?
    You know people who can't swim?  That's odd right there. 
    I agree. two guys I've known over 25 years. super weird. 
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  • Manitoba schools opening up completely sept 7.

    masks recommended but not required. 

    motherfucker. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,881
    Manitoba schools opening up completely sept 7.

    masks recommended but not required. 

    motherfucker. 
    Same here but  with no masks . We are fucked
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