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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,500
    Was at the Borgota last night in AC, casino floor was jam packed and the comedy show was sold out.   I would say about 10% of people were wearing masks.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • At less than 60% fully vaccinated that is curious.  
    Lots of casino goers are old, as well.
    Hope they have the shots, they are the ones most at risk

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    mcgruff10 said:
    Was at the Borgota last night in AC, casino floor was jam packed and the comedy show was sold out.   I would say about 10% of people were wearing masks.  
    I just cannot see anyone going back to lock downs and mask mandates. People are over it and honestly, they should be. The vaccinated are protected, and the unvaccinated have had enough time to get vaccinated. 
  • The kids don't matter?
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,875
    And the  people on chemo and immune suppressed 
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,858
    The kids don't matter?
    Based on what the school districts around us are planning for the Fall, it doesn’t seem so. Masks are optional and they can’t do distance education strictly for uneasiness about the disease. It has to be a documented condition of the student or family member with close contact to the student to qualify. There are provisions for distance learning if a significant outbreak at the school occurs. My county has a 31% fully vaccinated rate. You figure out if a outbreak is likely. 🙄
  • We had another notification of a case at our kid's camp
    It is an assumption but one that I am going to make....I'm betting the kid belongs to a household of antivaxxers who didnt follow basic protocol throughout.

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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    We had another notification of a case at our kid's camp
    It is an assumption but one that I am going to make....I'm betting the kid belongs to a household of antivaxxers who didnt follow basic protocol throughout.

    As far as assumptions go, that one's not a stretch.
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,435
    The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

    Was there a large increase year over year for suicides? 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    edited July 2021
    PJNB said:
    The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

    Was there a large increase year over year for suicides? 
    Yes those numbers would be helpful especially 
    since I can see a lot of young GLBTQ individuals distraught over having a president who openly despised them.  Let’s gets the numbers per year during his presidency and see if it began increasing in the years after his election and not just during the pandemic.  I’m not disagreeing that keeping kids locked up isn’t detrimental, I just want to know if our former leader being homophobic increased the numbers as well.  
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,540
    well good to hear that some places are lifting restrictions.

    st louis city and county are back to indoor mask mandates starting monday 7/26. this is directly due to the high numbers of unvaccinated people here.

    also one of the largest hospital systems here are now issuing vaccine mandates that have to be verified by independent credentializing organizations by aug 13. . basically you have to get vaccinated and submit your card, have the card verified by independent organization, or you are banned from entry and doing business at that hospital system. i figured that was coming so my 2 teammates and i got our vaccines verified a few months ago.

    my purpose in my career now is to go in there and steal business from the unvaccinated reps at other companies. This has gone on long enough, and we are going in to get that fucking business.
    Yes great strategy, stay safe I’m back to wearing mask in any store I go into screw the anti vaccine crowd I’m done with them! 
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,693
    New data available in pre-print looks at the effectiveness of a single doze of the Pfizer vaccine in terms of development of antibodies vs. two doses with respect to the timing of the two doses and confirms that a longer time period between the first and second dose leads to higher overall antibody levels, but leaves the individual less protected during the interval. The authors estimate that the "sweet spot" is 8 weeks between first and second dose (rather than the 3 weeks that Pfizer got authorization for).

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spacing-pfizer-covid-shots-boosts-antibody-levels-after-initial-drop-study-2021-07-22/

    Though probably no one will even read this, amongst all the bickering. 
    Good to read more confirmation about this.  I had a hunch about this so i cancelled my second appointment that was scheduled 20 days after Pfizer #1 and waited another 3 weeks.   I didnt want to wait two whole months tho :lol:lol:

    i just want my friends to get vaccinated, man.  Its their choice but i see a lot of people i know just not wanting it.  The vaccine divide doesn't seem to be a right wing/left wing thing here.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,540
    If we would of had the right leader in this country at the very beginning of this pandemic we could of stomped this virus away! Here we are round round we go till at some point we get to herd immunity in order to get passed this, we are a broken country! 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    The Epoch Times definitely needs to be fact checked.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
     Breakthrough cases are extremely rare. Here’s what it’s like to be one of them.
    By Lola Fadulu

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/covid-breakthrough-cases-virginia/2021/07/23/7c6c7a88-eb13-11eb-8950-d73b3e93ff7f_story.html

     

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
      You got a coronavirus vaccine. But you still became infected. How did that happen?
    By Ben Guarino

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2021/07/21/covid-vaccine-breakthrough-infections/



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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
     They Waited, They Worried, They Stalled. This Week, They Got the Shot. https://nyti.ms/3zx6FXw

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
     The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online https://nyti.ms/3rv5mWt

    SAN FRANCISCO — The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccinesThen over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were “a medical fraud” and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

    Instead, the article claimed, the shots “alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch.”

    Its assertions were easily disprovable. No matter. Over the next few hours, the article was translated from English into Spanish and Polish. It appeared on dozens of blogs and was picked up by anti-vaccination activists, who repeated the false claims online. The article also made its way to Facebook, where it reached 400,000 people, according to data from CrowdTangle, a Facebook-owned tool.

    The entire effort traced back to one person: Joseph Mercola.

    Dr. Mercola, 67, an osteopathic physician in Cape Coral, Fla., has long been a subject of criticism and government regulatory actions for his promotion of unproven or unapproved treatments. But most recently, he has become the chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online, according to researchers.

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    An internet-savvy entrepreneur who employs dozens, Dr. Mercola has published over 600 articles on Facebook that cast doubt on Covid-19 vaccines since the pandemic began, reaching a far larger audience than other vaccine skeptics, an analysis by The New York Times found. His claims have been widely echoed on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.

    The activity has earned Dr. Mercola, a natural health proponent with an Everyman demeanor, the dubious distinction of the top spot in the “Disinformation Dozen,” a list of 12 people responsible for sharing 65 percent of all anti-vaccine messaging on social media, said the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate. Others on the list include Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime anti-vaccine activist, and Erin Elizabeth, the founder of the website Health Nut News, who is also Dr. Mercola’s girlfriend.

    “Mercola is the pioneer of the anti-vaccine movement,” said Kolina Koltai, a researcher at the University of Washington who studies online conspiracy theories. “He’s a master of capitalizing on periods of uncertainty, like the pandemic, to grow his movement.”


    continues....


    I hope people like this fsce consequences. if only professionally.




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  • The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

    Back under your bridge!

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,435
    How lucky are we to have a vaccine that works as well as these ones do. Crazy when you think about it. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    New data available in pre-print looks at the effectiveness of a single doze of the Pfizer vaccine in terms of development of antibodies vs. two doses with respect to the timing of the two doses and confirms that a longer time period between the first and second dose leads to higher overall antibody levels, but leaves the individual less protected during the interval. The authors estimate that the "sweet spot" is 8 weeks between first and second dose (rather than the 3 weeks that Pfizer got authorization for).

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spacing-pfizer-covid-shots-boosts-antibody-levels-after-initial-drop-study-2021-07-22/

    Though probably no one will even read this, amongst all the bickering. 
    Good to read more confirmation about this.  I had a hunch about this so i cancelled my second appointment that was scheduled 20 days after Pfizer #1 and waited another 3 weeks.   I didnt want to wait two whole months tho :lol:lol:

    i just want my friends to get vaccinated, man.  Its their choice but i see a lot of people i know just not wanting it.  The vaccine divide doesn't seem to be a right wing/left wing thing here.  
    Same with my group.  There is no common link socially politically racially or sexually as to why some people are vaccinated and others aren’t.  
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  • jerparker20jerparker20 Posts: 2,501
    edited July 2021
    The Epoch Times definitely needs to be fact checked.
    The Epoch Times is a media propaganda arm of the Falun Gong, a religious cult based out of China.

    OAN,One America News Network, and the Washington Times, are both financially supported by the Unification Church, aka the Moonies, a Korean based religious cult.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    edited July 2021
    The Epoch Times definitely needs to be fact checked.
    The Epoch Times is a media propaganda arm of the Falun Gong, a religious cult based out of China.

    OAN,One America News Network, and the Washington Times, are both financially supported by the Unification Church, aka the Moonies, a Korean based religious cult.
    Guess I’ll change my cable package and newspaper subscription then. I want to be really (well informed).
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,875
    I just read a study that says the delta has x1200 viral load. This explains a lot about its transmissibilty . Mad evolution 
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    https://twitter.com/morningpleaser/status/1419274471253364737?s=21
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    edited July 2021
    PJNB said:
    The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

    Was there a large increase year over year for suicides? 
    Yes those numbers would be helpful especially 
    since I can see a lot of young GLBTQ individuals distraught over having a president who openly despised them.  Let’s gets the numbers per year during his presidency and see if it began increasing in the years after his election and not just during the pandemic.  I’m not disagreeing that keeping kids locked up isn’t detrimental, I just want to know if our former leader being homophobic increased the numbers as well.  
    [Post edited. Discuss the topic not the people discussing the topic. - Sea]

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/cdc-report-states-suicide-rates-donald-trump-mental-health-guns-1/
    Post edited by Sea on
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    I read this article this morning, and have had follow-up from a doctor: If you are immunocompromised, the delta variant poses a real threat to you, vaccinated or not, and you should act as if you are not vaccinated. Meaning: continue masking, practice social distancing, do not socialize indoors with unvaccinated people.

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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    edited July 2021
    Also, despite conventional wisdom and the widespread coverage of our mental health epidemic, suicide rates actually dropped by 5% last year. https://www.axios.com/suicide-decreased-in-2020-pandemmic-mental-health-26196eaf-a245-4d21-85eb-eeb864a24449.html  

    And there's this (from same article): "COVID-19 became the third leading cause of death in 2020, bumping suicide down from the tenth leading cause of death in 2019 to the eleventh."

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    edited July 2021
    PJNB said:
    The kids don't matter?
    The kids have been through enough…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theepochtimes.com/five-times-more-children-committed-suicide-than-died-of-covid-19-during-lockdown-uk-study_3903566.html/amp

    Five times more children and young people committed suicide than died of COVID-19 during the first year of the pandemic in the United Kingdom, according to a study, which also concluded that lockdowns are more detrimental to children’s health than the virus itself.

    It was revealed in the study that only 25 children under the age of 18 died of COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic until the end of February 2021. Around 61 children in all died after testing positive, but in 36 cases it was found the virus “did not contribute to their death.”

    But during the same time period, there were 124 suicides among children and 268 deaths from trauma, the study authors found, while noting the virus is “rarely fatal” for children.

    Was there a large increase year over year for suicides? 
    Yes those numbers would be helpful especially 
    since I can see a lot of young GLBTQ individuals distraught over having a president who openly despised them.  Let’s gets the numbers per year during his presidency and see if it began increasing in the years after his election and not just during the pandemic.  I’m not disagreeing that keeping kids locked up isn’t detrimental, I just want to know if our former leader being homophobic increased the numbers as well.  
    [Post edited. Discuss the topic not the people discussing the topic. - Sea]

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/cdc-report-states-suicide-rates-donald-trump-mental-health-guns-1/
    those were also purported to be UK numbers I believe.

    I dont click those links so I could be mistaken.


    Post edited by Sea on
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