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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    https://globalnews.ca/news/8065944/pfizer-sales-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot/

    Pfizer expects $33.5B in sales from COVID-19 vaccine with booster shot in works


    Wonder if the 3 jabbers will associate with the 2 jabbers…



    I don’t want to argue, don’t want to fight, can’t worry about corporation’s and their money right now because since I had covid in February 2020 my health has suffered tremendously.  This virus is treacherous.  I’m not a democrat nor a republican, I vote my conscious.  If you have not gotten the vaccine please, please get it.  That’s it, that’s all I have to say for now.  Not looking for pity, just saying this virus is for real. Remember I don’t want to argue because all our lives depend on this getting done. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    I am fully vaccinated.  I am more interested and suspicious of these drug companies by nature...but suddenly they want us to take a 3rd jab.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    I am fully vaccinated.  I am more interested and suspicious of these drug companies by nature...but suddenly they want us to take a 3rd jab.
    Nothing sudden about it... boosters were always a potential, and it's not like mutations haven't been on the forefront of the news. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    yeah there has been talk of potentially needing a booster for months
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  • yeah there has been talk of potentially needing a booster for months
    there has, but I'm wary of taking the advice to take a booster from a company who stands to profit immensely from it. I'll wait for independent recommendation. 
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    I am fully vaccinated.  I am more interested and suspicious of these drug companies by nature...but suddenly they want us to take a 3rd jab.
    Well I’m very happy to hear that and I get what you’re saying.  It’s like Jim Jones and his purple kool-aid.  Hey I don’t know what’s in that shot I just know it gets me outside, around people I love, people I don’t know….it truly is the definition of freedom (at least for me) And if it’s not as effective as you thought - the drug companies (which obviously it isn’t) then stop sugar coating the truth. I guess it’s because they just don’t know? Politics, trump, Biden, blue, red, it really comes down to trust.  And if in ten years we all have 3 heads well at least we’ll all finally look alike.    
  • CM189191 said:

    risky play for them, I applaud it.
    (The demos for Steak-Ums have to be red states, right?)
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    CM189191 said:
    Steak-ums

    The voice of reason




    risky play for them, I applaud it.
    (The demos for Steak-Ums have to be red states, right?)
    I'd have guessed the demo for Steak-Ums was 1985.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
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  • i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
    this a shot at my comment?
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    So now the vaccinated are being asked to mask up to protect the unvaccinated.  Not real sure but some might say this is karma.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    edited July 2021
    i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
    this a shot at my comment?

    no hugh.

    its the basic template of the skeptics or outright deniers.

    and that aint you.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    I'm curious in a jeopardy answer kinda way what Pfizers cost for developement was. What their contracts were worth for the US orders and then balance those against what they expect to earn from the booster program. cuz we are talking a couple billion doses...
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  • mickeyrat said:
    i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
    this a shot at my comment?

    no hugh.

    its the basic template of the skeptics or outright deniers.

    and that aint you.
    it just used very similar verbiage in a sarcastic manner only a few posts later. I just haven't heard anyone but Pfizer say you need a third shot from Pfizer but Pfizer. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    mickeyrat said:
    i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
    this a shot at my comment?

    no hugh.

    its the basic template of the skeptics or outright deniers.

    and that aint you.
    it just used very similar verbiage in a sarcastic manner only a few posts later. I just haven't heard anyone but Pfizer say you need a third shot from Pfizer but Pfizer. 

    used your comment as a platform to take a dig at the skeptics/deniers...

    thats all

    as for pfizer, its smart to get ahead as much as possible. given the truncated trial periods, we are in a mass real world trial of the backend effectiveness and the major unknown in varients that have emerged and those yet to come to boot.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Steak-ums

    The voice of reason




    risky play for them, I applaud it.
    (The demos for Steak-Ums have to be red states, right?)
    I'd have guessed the demo for Steak-Ums was 1985.
    Ha!
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    i will only trust steak umms when it is actually verified as meat by an independent body.

    did i do it right?
    this a shot at my comment?

    no hugh.

    its the basic template of the skeptics or outright deniers.

    and that aint you.
    it just used very similar verbiage in a sarcastic manner only a few posts later. I just haven't heard anyone but Pfizer say you need a third shot from Pfizer but Pfizer. 

    used your comment as a platform to take a dig at the skeptics/deniers...

    thats all

    as for pfizer, its smart to get ahead as much as possible. given the truncated trial periods, we are in a mass real world trial of the backend effectiveness and the major unknown in varients that have emerged and those yet to come to boot.
    yes, I'm appreciative of that, that if trials find that a third shot is beneficial or necessary, that we're good to go. 
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    1 -- Yeah, you can bet that labs (govt, academia, industry) are doing everything they can to get out ahead of this

    2 -- Steak-Umm Twitter is the best Twitter. Every now and then, Steak-Umm gets into a Twitter brawl with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

    3 -- My husband had to fly through Denver today. He reports 100% masking compliance, unlike what we saw when we were there a month ago. Maybe people actually got the message?


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Steak ums and pierogies were a staple of my diet when I was single.  In unrelated news,  I'm on a statin.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    mrussel1 said:
    Steak ums and pierogies were a staple of my diet when I was single.  In unrelated news,  I'm on a statin.

    thats a hippa violation
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Steak ums and pierogies were a staple of my diet when I was single.  In unrelated news,  I'm on a statin.

    thats a hippa violation
    Dammit.  Filing a regulatory complaint against Pearl Jam now. 
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,672
    edited July 2021
    It looks like Isreal's academics have updated their Pfizer double dose efficacy of preventing serious illness data (based on delta) down to 80% instead of 90s%.

    They also started third doses on immunocompromised last week. 



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  • 80% is still damn good, isn't it? I might have to talk to my daughter's specialist (immunocompromised 15 year old). 
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    edited July 2021
    80% is still damn good, isn't it? I might have to talk to my daughter's specialist (immunocompromised 15 year old). 

    Yes, in the sense that they were originally aiming to get a vaccine with 50% or better efficacy.

    We also have an immunocompromised family member and have been communicating with their doctor to get the most recent info and advice; that's the highest-risk group, so talking to the doctor sounds like a smart move.

    Edit to add: It sure does seem like a third dose is going to be recommended for that group very soon.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,672
    Yup! Better than nothing!
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    I think the annual flu vaccine has something like 40% efficacy, so even the J&J shot is awesome by comparison. 
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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,672
    We're back to mandatory masks in my pocket of BC. High cases of unvaccinated 20s, 30s. 

    I started sporting them last 2 trips in mall. Was fun while it lasted!
  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    80% is still damn good, isn't it? I might have to talk to my daughter's specialist (immunocompromised 15 year old). 

    Yes, in the sense that they were originally aiming to get a vaccine with 50% or better efficacy.

    We also have an immunocompromised family member and have been communicating with their doctor to get the most recent info and advice; that's the highest-risk group, so talking to the doctor sounds like a smart move.

    Edit to add: It sure does seem like a third dose is going to be recommended for that group very soon.
    Meanwhile Israel reported a whopping 1 death yesterday to COVID and have averaged under 10 for almost two months now. With an astounding 149 patients currently  in serious condition. A country with over 9 million citizens. If they claim 80% then it’s clearly good enough to effectively end the pandemic there. Bottom line, don’t believe everything you read. If they claim all these patients are on ventilators why are none dying? They must have some great ventilators. There have been some ridiculous reports, both good and bad coming out of Israel for a while now. They are about as credible as the CDC or WHO at this point. Hospitalizations and deaths are about the only two metrics I concern myself with anymore. Especially since those numbers are harder to manipulate. Most everything else is just noise at this point. Being spun to benefit someone’s narrative,
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