I will assume and do in fact, he meant not get any of the devastating effects visited on the unvaccinated.
Can't ya just acknowledge that Biden was wrong when he said that, rather than assuming what he meant? He said "You’re not gonna get COVID if you have these vaccinations." That's his quote, in a televised townhall, and it's incorrect. God forbid the interviewer push back and note that he was incorrect so then Biden could correct himself and say what you assume he meant.
That's the problem with the majority here. They will not admit there is a very large liberal bias with the MSM. They will not admit anything against "their" party is wrong.
I get blasted for "misinformation", yet when I ask for clarification on some "misinformation" the three responses after are blasting me about Trump and do not address a legitimate concern for most people, conflicting information.
I understand that no one from "the" party cares about me. When these folks understand that, we will start getting somewhere.
Dude... you're not wrong about what you're saying. But If I may....
Trump (and Republicans) lie, deceive, and manipulate for power, votes, leverage, gain. (TRUE!) Biden (and Democrats) lie, deceive, and manipulate for power, votes, leverage, gain. (TRUE!)
Fox News and Newsmax are biased and owned privately by rich people who pulls the strings. (TRUE) CNN and MSNBC are biased and owned privately by rich people who pulls the strings. (TRUE)
Ok. So all things being the same lets look at this as well:
A thermonuclear bomb is a dangerous weapon. (TRUE!) A gun is a dangerous weapon. (TRUE!)
To your point and I say this sincerely... there are those in society who are ignorant and blind to the failures of their particular brand or banner and are seemingly incapable of admitting those failures. (TRUE!)
This may be just my opinion here.. but if you dig deep and you look close and you really really pay attention you could possibly notice this:
Trump is FAR WORSE at said lying, deceiving, and manipulating. He and the republicans would be the nuclear bomb of my little analogy here.
Fox and Newsmax are FAR MORE BIASED. They would be the nuclear bomb of my little analogy here.
And those two things... while the same are.. wait for it... Not. Equal. A bomb is hopefully obviously more dangerous than a gun.
And in terms of the general population... those who support Trump and the Republicans versus those who support Biden and the Democrats (Timeout: you know... it almost starts to sound like we're talking about the Empire versus the Rebels from Star Wars when you think about it) Time in: .... There are many folks who are hard headed and stubborn when it comes to not being able to admit their team sucks sometimes.... but Trump supporters are BY FAR much worse at that.
I wish I had that Lebron James meme/photo when his teammate messes up and he's like "COME ON!"
If you're going to come on here with your self righteousness and point the finger at Biden and people who cannot admit when he is wrong or when he says something untrue... you need to take a serious, serious, serious look in the mirror. Because my friend, the fellow you voted for has spouted exponentially more bogus claims and dangerous lies than Biden. That's a fact.
If you think to yourself sometimes "Why don't people like me?" "Why am I criticized for voting for Trump?" "Why are people so 'triggered' about this stuff?"
Think of two men standing outside a school, one with a gun, and one with a detonator to a large nuclear bomb inside the school. Both are a threat, and both are bad. But it is generally understood by most people with half a brain which of the two is the greater threat. If ten people are inside choosing which guy to take out and one person says "honestly guys, I think the guy with the gun is the problem here." That person is likely going to get yelled at and stopped. That's why folks on here, myself included don't like what you say because it's dangerous and makes no sense.
In America, that ratio is 50/50 not 90/10. It boggles the mind.
What Biden said was wrong and stupid. (True) What Trump has said, is saying, and will continue to say is more wrong, and far more stupid. (True)
In a system where you had three choices, Biden, Trump, or nothing... you chose Trump. You will be judged for that. Deal with it.
My guy, you sure took the looooooong way around when you could of just said, "Orange man bad". Just relax and let's enjoy this video as we head into the weekend!
A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'
A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.
Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.
Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."
Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.
Big news coming out of my province today. July 30th all restrictions will be lifted. Feels amazing to finally have a date so close.
Congratulations and good luck! We are in Step 3 and I believe that the earliest we move to Step 4 is September. Still, Step 3 is feeling pretty good.
i am surprised at that to be honest for you guys. Vaccination rates have been great so far for BC. Hopefully it gets bumped up date wise.
BC has been and is being cautious, which has served us pretty well. The schedule says that September 7th is the earliest date to lift all restrictions, and I'm fine with that. The only real remaining ones are some capacity limitations on larger groups events, both indoors and outdoors, and reduced capacity in casinos. So we can't host PJ until September, but after that we should be good to go! (and I'd be totally fine if they shut down casinos permanently )
We currently have 72% of total population with at least one dose and 51% fully vaccinated (81% and 57.6% of those eligible), which is great but we'd still like more. Second doses are still bounding ahead, first doses are inching ahead. On Vancouver Island, as of today the health authority has the VaxVan, which is a van with nurses driving into smaller communities and even tourist areas like beaches and parks, to focus on upping first doses.
New data available in pre-print looks at the effectiveness of a single doze of the Pfizer vaccine in terms of development of antibodies vs. two doses with respect to the timing of the two doses and confirms that a longer time period between the first and second dose leads to higher overall antibody levels, but leaves the individual less protected during the interval. The authors estimate that the "sweet spot" is 8 weeks between first and second dose (rather than the 3 weeks that Pfizer got authorization for).
Though probably no one will even read this, amongst all the bickering.
Great news and looks like Canada may have gotten lucky a bit with their strategy of single doses first to the masses and this also working in our favour.
wheres meltdown when you need him....
I’m right here. It was a great strategy considering we are just coming g out of lockdowns…and when the policy was put in place it was done so to cover up for the ineptitude of Canada’s racist, misogynist dear leader…lmfao at the troll.
A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'
A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.
Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.
Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."
Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.
A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'
A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.
Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.
Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."
Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.
New data available in pre-print looks at the effectiveness of a single doze of the Pfizer vaccine in terms of development of antibodies vs. two doses with respect to the timing of the two doses and confirms that a longer time period between the first and second dose leads to higher overall antibody levels, but leaves the individual less protected during the interval. The authors estimate that the "sweet spot" is 8 weeks between first and second dose (rather than the 3 weeks that Pfizer got authorization for).
Though probably no one will even read this, amongst all the bickering.
Great news and looks like Canada may have gotten lucky a bit with their strategy of single doses first to the masses and this also working in our favour.
wheres meltdown when you need him....
I’m right here. It was a great strategy considering we are just coming g out of lockdowns…and when the policy was put in place it was done so to cover up for the ineptitude of Canada’s racist, misogynist dear leader…lmfao at the troll.
really. so the US contracts before they were even established as effective 200 million doses each of Pfizer and moderna and funded the development of the moderna as well as others through op warpspeed.
do you know what the manufacturing capacity of all combined was? Fuck J&J had to trash millions ofdoses cuz of conditions at one facility. AND still had to honor the US contract first.
So wasnt Canada in line like everyone else until production ramped up significantly? especially since vax isnt manufactured in Canada?
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Well there you go. The question wasn't about break through cases in the country but specifically in the WH staff. I wouldn't answer that either for two reasons:
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
2. You can't draw conclusions among a small cohort of individuals which would be a statistically insignificant number of people.
So the question as to why that's important is a good one. If you can't draw medical conclusions, why would the WH release that personal type information? If you want to know about breakthroughs, there is data from the CDC which is more useful.
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.
So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.
So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?
seem to recall those folks had independent coverage or releases stating their status and this is a compilation of that. Its not as if THAT admins staff was going to release that info to a direct question.
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The president's health status is obviously of national security. Staffers are different. Did these people self disclose or was it under pressure from the press to the WH that led to the information? I'm pretty sure it's the former. And last, of course some of these people aren't WH staffers.
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And what about Alabama Governor, Kay Ivey, and her statement that "Folks are supposed to have common sense. But it’s time to start blaming
the unvaccinated folks, not the vaccinated folks. It’s the unvaccinated
folks that are letting us down.” WTF, Kay? Where do you think these people got there notions about the vaccine in the first place???
What the hell is wrong with some of these people?!
Their/there/they're only policy is owning libs.
They're just dying to do that, aren't they.
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Here is what I have learned regarding the virus, not just here but nationwide- If the information presented stays on message of the Party, then it is good. If the information presented goes against the message, then it is fact-checked and labeled as misinformation.
The fact that you equate this to “party” is the main problem. So no, your observation is incorrect.
Notice how I didn't refer to one party, just "the" party. Also, how is that 401k doing? Them damn anti-vaxxholes.
I know this board has been really good at spotting misinformation, can some one help me out here. Biden said during his town hall that you will not get Covid if you have been vaccinated (video a page or two back), yet the Washington Post states-
"In other words, the delta variant means the virus will probably continue to spread, even among vaccinated people and even in a strongly vaccinated country such as Israel, because the vaccines don’t protect from transmission or symptomatic cases nearly as well. But that doesn’t mean the vaccines don’t work, especially when it comes to preventing the worst of the disease.
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.
So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?
Link? Can we get a (fact check) on the blanket statement of, “plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.” Was there a poll that I missed? Or just more same-same?
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.
So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?
That’s accurate. For example an employer should not ask for your covid test result, as it is protected Heath information, but your vaccination status is not. An American employer can ask you for proof that you are vaccinated.
Your picture of the Coney Barrett super spreader event was notable because it showed people in authority ignoring safety requirements and local regulations and many were infected as a result. That is not what happened with the breakthrough cases in the Biden admin. I think trump supporters know this but are making a dishonest comparison
If we were all honest with each other we would have a chance to get out of this mess, instead of misrepresenting the truth about the virus and vaccines.
A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'
A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.
Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.
Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."
Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
well good to hear that some places are lifting restrictions.
st louis city and county are back to indoor mask mandates starting monday 7/26. this is directly due to the high numbers of unvaccinated people here.
also one of the largest hospital systems here are now issuing vaccine mandates that have to be verified by independent credentializing organizations by aug 13. . basically you have to get vaccinated and submit your card, have the card verified by independent organization, or you are banned from entry and doing business at that hospital system. i figured that was coming so my 2 teammates and i got our vaccines verified a few months ago.
my purpose in my career now is to go in there and steal business from the unvaccinated reps at other companies. This has gone on long enough, and we are going in to get that fucking business.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
forgot to state in my post that ususally whatever this hospital system does, the rest follow their lead. so those jabronis that did not get vaccinated are going to be in trouble. if you cannot get into a facility to do business, you lose. and it will be their own fault.
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Man Who Tweeted About Having '99 Problems but a Vax Ain't One' Dies of COVID. https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-harmon-hillsong-member-who-tweeted-about-having-99-problems-but-a-vax-aint-one-dies-of-covid?source=cheats&via=rss
A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'
A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.
Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.
Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."
Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.
Conservative Radio Host Who Downplayed Vaccines Seriously Ill With COVID-19 (businessinsider.com)
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BC has been and is being cautious, which has served us pretty well. The schedule says that September 7th is the earliest date to lift all restrictions, and I'm fine with that. The only real remaining ones are some capacity limitations on larger groups events, both indoors and outdoors, and reduced capacity in casinos. So we can't host PJ until September, but after that we should be good to go! (and I'd be totally fine if they shut down casinos permanently
We currently have 72% of total population with at least one dose and 51% fully vaccinated (81% and 57.6% of those eligible), which is great but we'd still like more. Second doses are still bounding ahead, first doses are inching ahead. On Vancouver Island, as of today the health authority has the VaxVan, which is a van with nurses driving into smaller communities and even tourist areas like beaches and parks, to focus on upping first doses.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/info/restart
They get no sympathy from me
None of the anti-vaxxers who get sick, or worse, get any sympathy from me.
And another NFL assistant goes buh bye..
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.
2. You can't draw conclusions among a small cohort of individuals which would be a statistically insignificant number of people.
So the question as to why that's important is a good one. If you can't draw medical conclusions, why would the WH release that personal type information? If you want to know about breakthroughs, there is data from the CDC which is more useful.
So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?
Also, this...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/03/us/rose-garden-event-covid.html
seem to recall those folks had independent coverage or releases stating their status and this is a compilation of that. Its not as if THAT admins staff was going to release that info to a direct question.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
They're just dying to do that, aren't they.
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If we were all honest with each other we would have a chance to get out of this mess, instead of misrepresenting the truth about the virus and vaccines.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
st louis city and county are back to indoor mask mandates starting monday 7/26. this is directly due to the high numbers of unvaccinated people here.
also one of the largest hospital systems here are now issuing vaccine mandates that have to be verified by independent credentializing organizations by aug 13. . basically you have to get vaccinated and submit your card, have the card verified by independent organization, or you are banned from entry and doing business at that hospital system. i figured that was coming so my 2 teammates and i got our vaccines verified a few months ago.
my purpose in my career now is to go in there and steal business from the unvaccinated reps at other companies. This has gone on long enough, and we are going in to get that fucking business.
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