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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,858
    My wife had a close exposure last week, but couldn't get tested until today due to our Health Department and clinics being closed for the holidays. Thankfully she tested negative, and she said there was a really long line of people in cars waiting to get tested. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    Come on man. The blame goes all around, including the fed government. 
    This.
    Federal government. State governments. Local governments.  

    People willfully mis-informing (particularly those with big stages). The willfully mis-informed. Your drunk uncle.

    I think in terms of the governments, some of the mis-steps are acceptable; after all, this is essentially new to us and it's a whole lot of moving targets. Here in my state, I think our governor's been less-than-perfect, but perfection isn't realistic.

    You can (and should) scrutinize the current administration. But I think it's a bit disingenuous not to acknowledge the level of reality this one is in vs. the last one.
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    Come on man. The blame goes all around, including the fed government. 
    Duh. Except, like most things, it’s complicated by a whole set of circumstances. Something some people don’t seem to understand.

    What solutions for anything pandemic related have repubs offered up? Other than paying unemployment benefits if you refuse the jab and lose your job? And, I’ll ask again, where is corporate America in all of this? Are they blameless? I guess Brandon should have gotten a three D printer for Xmas and started churning out test kits from the White House basement. Damn you Brandon!
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    I didn’t say either way whether Brandon could or should be blamed. But seeing how you think he should be, maybe you could articulate what he should have or could have done?

     I’m not religious nor have I drunk the cool aide. For the record.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

    I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  
    The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 
    the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 
    I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 
    he didn't say "no one seen this coming" in the way you are claiming here. he said the current number of mutations in omicron is unprecedented, but he obviously forecasted that mutations themselves would be part of life. 

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326203/We-saw-coming-Fauci-contradicts-Harris-claim-administration-did-not-predict-variants.html

    it's really odd to me that people expect him to be ahead of this once-in-a-lifetime situation 100% of the time, especially when the top officials often don't listen to him, or politicize him, or downright lie about him. 

    I really don't see what there is to dislike about the guy. I guess some people expect him to be some guy with an S on his chest and save the world. 
    I accept that you’re a fan of him. I am not and I don’t feel the need to have to defend my opinion of him. To me he’s become a Dr Phil, Dr Oz, Dr Drew etc… I don’t take him seriously like I did when this first started. 
    uh, I'm not a "fan" of him. I respect him as an expert in his field that has been doing amazing work for 5 plus decades. to compare him to the other ones you mentioned is laughable. 
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

    Personally, I blame The Squad.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    I know. But you kind of did the same thing in response to him, hence my reply. 

    He was speaking in a conference call to Governors when he said that. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

    Personally, I blame The Squad.
    Nah I’m good. Another funny statement blaming the squad. So funny. Can you articulate one thing President Biden has done wrong regarding this pandemic so far? I mean, he was supposed to stomp
    out this virus right? Maybe just maybe people were kind of underestimating how hard it is to to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude? Seemed like everyone had the answers last year. Yet , here we are. 
  • shit's hitting the fan with omicron here in manitoba. test positivity is at 20%. our CPHO, however, did say that number is skewed high, since many people are taking home tests and only the ones testing positive are coming in for a PCR. not sure where these people are getting these home tests though. I can't find one. our family wanted one as several of my wife's co workers tested positive right before christmas, and we wanted to be sure. 

    however, every single person we know that has tested positive has said it's been nothing more than a cold/bad cold or close to nothing at all. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    shit's hitting the fan with omicron here in manitoba. test positivity is at 20%. our CPHO, however, did say that number is skewed high, since many people are taking home tests and only the ones testing positive are coming in for a PCR. not sure where these people are getting these home tests though. I can't find one. our family wanted one as several of my wife's co workers tested positive right before christmas, and we wanted to be sure. 

    however, every single person we know that has tested positive has said it's been nothing more than a cold/bad cold or close to nothing at all. 
    Anyone know just how accurate those home tests are? If I have an actual cold , will it come out positive? Do they test for something specifically or solely found with Covid-19? 
  • Yea, Brandon hasn't done enough. Maybe this faux outrage should be directed at Joe Manchin? What did he waste with his ego stroking? A couple of months? Or all the repubs who didn't vote for or voiced all their vociferous opposition to all that socialism? Just a thought.

    President Biden's COVID-19 Plan | The White House

    Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

    President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

    Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

    To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

    Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

    To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

    Expanding Free, Pharmacy Testing

    As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.


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    I was against socialism before I was for it. Good lord.
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    shit's hitting the fan with omicron here in manitoba. test positivity is at 20%. our CPHO, however, did say that number is skewed high, since many people are taking home tests and only the ones testing positive are coming in for a PCR. not sure where these people are getting these home tests though. I can't find one. our family wanted one as several of my wife's co workers tested positive right before christmas, and we wanted to be sure. 

    however, every single person we know that has tested positive has said it's been nothing more than a cold/bad cold or close to nothing at all. 
    Anyone know just how accurate those home tests are? If I have an actual cold , will it come out positive? Do they test for something specifically or solely found with Covid-19? 
    I think you're more likely to get a false negative than a false positive. I believe it's looking for the same thing as PCR (presence of the virus), but since the home test doesn't get jammed up all the way to your brain, where the virus often sits, it might get missed. 

    however, this is all what I've HEARD, not what I KNOW. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    nicknyr15 said:
    shit's hitting the fan with omicron here in manitoba. test positivity is at 20%. our CPHO, however, did say that number is skewed high, since many people are taking home tests and only the ones testing positive are coming in for a PCR. not sure where these people are getting these home tests though. I can't find one. our family wanted one as several of my wife's co workers tested positive right before christmas, and we wanted to be sure. 

    however, every single person we know that has tested positive has said it's been nothing more than a cold/bad cold or close to nothing at all. 
    Anyone know just how accurate those home tests are? If I have an actual cold , will it come out positive? Do they test for something specifically or solely found with Covid-19? 
    I think you're more likely to get a false negative than a false positive. I believe it's looking for the same thing as PCR (presence of the virus), but since the home test doesn't get jammed up all the way to your brain, where the virus often sits, it might get missed. 

    however, this is all what I've HEARD, not what I KNOW. 
    Gotcha. 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

    Personally, I blame The Squad.
    Nah I’m good. Another funny statement blaming the squad. So funny. Can you articulate one thing President Biden has done wrong regarding this pandemic so far? I mean, he was supposed to stomp
    out this virus right? Maybe just maybe people were kind of underestimating how hard it is to to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude? Seemed like everyone had the answers last year. Yet , here we are. 
    I guess the answer is no, then. I blame a whole varying set of folks and institutions, from anti-vaxxers & anti-maskers to corporate America. At least Brandon isn't saying things like, "it'll be gone by Easter" or "shine a light or use bleach," etc. And he and House dems shepherded a potential solution through the house without one repub vote. But its all Brandon's fault and yes, here we are. In all its misguided faux outrage and misdirected blame.

    Brandon should have called out the military and made everyone stay locked in their houses for 30 days. There, one thing Brandon did wrong. Oh, and taken everyone's gun. Thats two. Two more than you.
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    shit's hitting the fan with omicron here in manitoba. test positivity is at 20%. our CPHO, however, did say that number is skewed high, since many people are taking home tests and only the ones testing positive are coming in for a PCR. not sure where these people are getting these home tests though. I can't find one. our family wanted one as several of my wife's co workers tested positive right before christmas, and we wanted to be sure. 

    however, every single person we know that has tested positive has said it's been nothing more than a cold/bad cold or close to nothing at all. 
    Anyone know just how accurate those home tests are? If I have an actual cold , will it come out positive? Do they test for something specifically or solely found with Covid-19? 
    I think you're more likely to get a false negative than a false positive. I believe it's looking for the same thing as PCR (presence of the virus), but since the home test doesn't get jammed up all the way to your brain, where the virus often sits, it might get missed. 

    however, this is all what I've HEARD, not what I KNOW. 
    Gotcha. 
    here's the difference in types of tests, from an article in WAPO:

    The FDA has given emergency use authorization to nearly a dozen over-the-counter, self-collected rapid antigen testing kits, such as the Abbott BinaxNow and Quidel QuickVue tests. These tests look for protein pieces of the virus to detect infection and can provide results in 10 to 15 minutes.

    Polymerase chain reaction, or PCR, tests — a type of molecular coronavirus test — also look for components of the virus, in this case RNA. But, unlike rapid antigen tests, most require a laboratory setting and can take up to several days to return a result. (Antigen and PCR tests differ from antibody tests, which look for immune responses to infection or vaccination. Those tests can tell you whether you’ve had the coronavirus at some point, but experts say they are not useful for identifying active infections.) PCR tests are, however, widely considered more reliable than antigen tests.

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  • jpgoegeljpgoegel Posts: 412
    Did someone say merch? 




    But is there fan boy fauci merch?
    actually, yes.  granted it's not run my fauci or any political organization (i think), but there's bobbleheads and stuff like this

    https://www.amazon.com/Fauci-Real-Political-Action-Figure/dp/B09BD9TD98
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

    Personally, I blame The Squad.
    Nah I’m good. Another funny statement blaming the squad. So funny. Can you articulate one thing President Biden has done wrong regarding this pandemic so far? I mean, he was supposed to stomp
    out this virus right? Maybe just maybe people were kind of underestimating how hard it is to to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude? Seemed like everyone had the answers last year. Yet , here we are. 
    I guess the answer is no, then. I blame a whole varying set of folks and institutions, from anti-vaxxers & anti-maskers to corporate America. At least Brandon isn't saying things like, "it'll be gone by Easter" or "shine a light or use bleach," etc. And he and House dems shepherded a potential solution through the house without one repub vote. But its all Brandon's fault and yes, here we are. In all its misguided faux outrage and misdirected blame.

    Brandon should have called out the military and made everyone stay locked in their houses for 30 days. There, one thing Brandon did wrong. Oh, and taken everyone's gun. Thats two. Two more than you.
    Nowhere did I say this is all
    Bidens fault. Just pointing out that you said NONE of this is his fault and continue to say that . And your last paragraph is ridiculous, totally unrealistic and cannot be taken seriously. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?
    Bezos? The squad? Guns? Manchin? I’m not sure. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
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    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    I thought “government was the problem?”

    No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

    Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

    I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?
    All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 
    Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 
    Cool. 
    lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 
    I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 
    Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

    Personally, I blame The Squad.
    Nah I’m good. Another funny statement blaming the squad. So funny. Can you articulate one thing President Biden has done wrong regarding this pandemic so far? I mean, he was supposed to stomp
    out this virus right? Maybe just maybe people were kind of underestimating how hard it is to to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude? Seemed like everyone had the answers last year. Yet , here we are. 
    I guess the answer is no, then. I blame a whole varying set of folks and institutions, from anti-vaxxers & anti-maskers to corporate America. At least Brandon isn't saying things like, "it'll be gone by Easter" or "shine a light or use bleach," etc. And he and House dems shepherded a potential solution through the house without one repub vote. But its all Brandon's fault and yes, here we are. In all its misguided faux outrage and misdirected blame.

    Brandon should have called out the military and made everyone stay locked in their houses for 30 days. There, one thing Brandon did wrong. Oh, and taken everyone's gun. Thats two. Two more than you.
    Nowhere did I say this is all
    Bidens fault. Just pointing out that you said NONE of this is his fault and continue to say that . And your last paragraph is ridiculous, totally unrealistic and cannot be taken seriously. 
    But when asked what could or should Brandon have done, you responded with "Naw, I'm good." So you don't have any suggestions and yet are critical despite the BBB having what you seem to be clamoring for? Good lord. And for the record, I hadn't commented on whether Brandon was at fault or not before you criticized my comments. And for the record, I'm not sure what else Brandon could be doing. But I do know that repubs and corporate America could be doing a whole hell of a lot more but they're not.

    See how that works? You can't be taken seriously either if you can't be bothered with listing or naming at least one thing Brandon could or should have done as it relates to this issue.

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  • jpgoegel said:
    Did someone say merch? 




    But is there fan boy fauci merch?
    actually, yes.  granted it's not run my fauci or any political organization (i think), but there's bobbleheads and stuff like this

    https://www.amazon.com/Fauci-Real-Political-Action-Figure/dp/B09BD9TD98
    Who knew? Action figures? How about a lawn sign and a winter hat?
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    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

    Yea, Brandon hasn't done enough. Maybe this faux outrage should be directed at Joe Manchin? What did he waste with his ego stroking? A couple of months? Or all the repubs who didn't vote for or voiced all their vociferous opposition to all that socialism? Just a thought.

    President Biden's COVID-19 Plan | The White House

    Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

    President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

    Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

    To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

    Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

    To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

    Expanding Free, Pharmacy Testing

    As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.
    Good Lord

    soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
    government? 
    remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

    Yea, Brandon hasn't done enough. Maybe this faux outrage should be directed at Joe Manchin? What did he waste with his ego stroking? A couple of months? Or all the repubs who didn't vote for or voiced all their vociferous opposition to all that socialism? Just a thought.

    President Biden's COVID-19 Plan | The White House

    Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

    President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

    Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

    To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

    Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

    To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

    Expanding Free, Pharmacy Testing

    As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.


    The Build Back Better Framework | The White House

    I was against socialism before I was for it. Good lord.


    Hahah damn. I didn't know he was using the defense production act for this. Thanks for letting me know.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust, and a single-minded fixation on vaccinating Americans left testing on the back burner for so long.

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    White House press secretary Jen Psaki seemed to deride the very idea of free nationwide home tests. “Should we just send one to every American?” she mused sarcastically from the briefing room podium. “Then what happens if you—if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?”"

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays
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  • static111 said:
    With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust, and a single-minded fixation on vaccinating Americans left testing on the back burner for so long.

    "White House press secretary Jen Psaki seemed to deride the very idea of free nationwide home tests. “Should we just send one to every American?” she mused sarcastically from the briefing room podium. “Then what happens if you—if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?”"

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays
    Jen raises a valid point though. How many tests should someone take? One a day? Two a day? Every other day? Why are all these people wanting tests last week and this week but not three months ago? What’s the reasoning behind a sudden surge in testing demand?

    My employer requires that you be tested once to 3 times per week based upon the number of days per week that you’re in the office. But the kicker is is that it’s self administered, dropped off to be tested and you get to go to work before the results are known (they typically come in 12 hours after being left to be tested). And my employer has directed managers to allow those who can work from home to continue to do so until the end of January, to reduce the demand of testing and out of an abundance of caution with omicron.

    So, you have a bunch of people testing at home and regardless of their results, then what? 40% refuses to get vaccinated and you expect these home testers to stay home, not travel and voluntarily self isolate if they’re positive? Please.
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