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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    Well it's a 43-page document but lots of the news today's most of reporting on this


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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542

    The findings pertainin to immune escape from prior infections  rather than transmissibility and that is the take away.
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,883
    Just got my Moderna booster few hours ago. Fingers crossed for no major side effects.
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    It’s well past the point of trying to convince anyone to do anything.  Companies that push COVID costs onto those not getting vaccinated via their health insurance are getting it right. Considering the average COVID related hospital say exceeds 40k it’s perfectly reasonable 

    Don’t want a vaccine, fine. Your health insurance now has a 500 dollar a month surcharge

    if I don’t go to the dentist every year I get hit with a surcharge, if I don’t get an annual physical, surcharge again. If I want a discount I have to do all kinds of healthy living education.   It’s the same thing.  If I don’t do things to keep me healthy I pay more for coverage. Simple

    before I got hired I had a nicotine test.  They won’t hire smokers because they don’t want to pay for their health costs. 

    a lot of this would go away if we just said fine, do what you want…. But it’ll cost you 6k a year in premiums.  Then you find out real quick that principle isn’t more valuable than money 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    GlowGirl said:
    Just got my Moderna booster few hours ago. Fingers crossed for no major side effects.
    You got this. 

    I did mine with my mom a month ago. She didn't complain one little bit, so I decided I'd have a positive outlook on it, too. I barely noticed a thing!
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,883
    tish said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Just got my Moderna booster few hours ago. Fingers crossed for no major side effects.
    You got this. 

    I did mine with my mom a month ago. She didn't complain one little bit, so I decided I'd have a positive outlook on it, too. I barely noticed a thing!
    Thanks. My first two shots were ok. Barely any side effects. I am hoping for the same here. Glad you and your mom were good with yours. My parents were also fine. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,625
    GlowGirl said:
    tish said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Just got my Moderna booster few hours ago. Fingers crossed for no major side effects.
    You got this. 

    I did mine with my mom a month ago. She didn't complain one little bit, so I decided I'd have a positive outlook on it, too. I barely noticed a thing!
    Thanks. My first two shots were ok. Barely any side effects. I am hoping for the same here. Glad you and your mom were good with yours. My parents were also fine. 
    Hope it does not get you down, M.
    Glad you're being safe

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    ruh roh....


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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,883
    F Me In The Brain said:
    GlowGirl said:
    tish said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Just got my Moderna booster few hours ago. Fingers crossed for no major side effects.
    You got this. 

    I did mine with my mom a month ago. She didn't complain one little bit, so I decided I'd have a positive outlook on it, too. I barely noticed a thing!
    Thanks. My first two shots were ok. Barely any side effects. I am hoping for the same here. Glad you and your mom were good with yours. My parents were also fine. 
    Hope it does not get you down, M.
    Glad you're being safe

    Thanks. I had basically the same reaction with the booster that I had with the other two shots. I felt fine all day and when I went to bed. Then woke up at 4:00am with a slight 100.5 fever. Took a few Tylenol and went back to bed. Woke up this morning feeling fine but a little tired. That’s about it. I did my normal Saturday run on Friday. That may have been hard to do today. But otherwise all is well. Thanks. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    edited December 2021
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,786
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
    Like they wouldn’t notice, right?
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
    Like they wouldn’t notice, right?
    "Damn!  Broke another needle.  Hold on, I'll be right back."  :lol:
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    “Show me your whole arm!”

    Idjit. 
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    HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,383
    What gave it away? 

    He was talking with only one hand.

    Aaaayyyyyy
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,786
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
    Like they wouldn’t notice, right?
    I wonder if he thought he was a genius while he was coming up this plan. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
    Like they wouldn’t notice, right?
    I wonder if he thought he was a genius while he was coming up this plan. 
    Or if his name is Geppetto?
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,786
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What some will do to avoid the jab.

    An Italian anti-vaxxer wanted a health certificate, so he wore a fake arm to his coronavirus vaccination


    An Italian man raised eyebrows this week and made global headlines when he arrived at a vaccination center in northern Italy and tried to fool health workers into administering a coronavirus vaccine into a prosthetic arm.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/04/coronavirus-vaccine-italy-fake-arm/
    My wife just told me about this!!!!haaaaaaaa. What the fuck 
    Like they wouldn’t notice, right?
    I wonder if he thought he was a genius while he was coming up this plan. 
    Or if his name is Geppetto?
    You’re something else sometimes. That’s great. Well done. 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    troublesome and not something that crossed my radar if ever disciussed and was considered by the experts, mutations that include other viruses....



    Omicron possibly more infectious because it shares genetic code with common cold coronavirus, study says

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/04/omicron-coronavirus-transmissible-cold-variant/



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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    this could also very well be the mutation that takes over (since transmissibility seems to be the defining factor when discussed, SO FAR), and the mutation that isn't as bad illness-wise, that we just learn to live with, like with influenza. 

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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,359
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.


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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,237
    tish said:
    Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safrican-official-says-number-children-sick-with-covid-19-is-not-cause-panic-2021-12-04/
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    tish said:
    Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.



    your source?
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/584223-top-south-african-expert-says-omicron-is-surging-among-children

    Google it. Take your pick

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    so whats your take on the conflicting stories?
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/covid-19/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-children-hospitalised-with-moderate-to-severe-symptoms/

    I believe the doctor that spoke to press today.
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    ^ the vaccine makers were told to kick it up a notch quicker today.

    'mild' news could be political based on evidence suggesting otherwise?


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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,542
    And they said we could use drugs on younger kids today.... no link... ski trip planning for Xmas...
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