Cancelled!

Parksy

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

He won't be cancelled, that's for sure.

If he's as 'genius' as some think....  he might be doing more for the debate on 'cancel culture' than anyone...  but as for whether or not he'll be cancelled or not...  I dunno... time shall tell here. 

Damon Wayans has opined that Chappelle's special has "freed the slaves" of comedians that have been or would have been cancelled. 

nicknyr15

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

My favorite comedian ever. Legend. 

oftenreading

Parksy said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

He won't be cancelled, that's for sure.

If he's as 'genius' as some think....  he might be doing more for the debate on 'cancel culture' than anyone...  but as for whether or not he'll be cancelled or not...  I dunno... time shall tell here. 

Damon Wayans has opined that Chappelle's special has "freed the slaves" of comedians that have been or would have been cancelled. 

Oh my. 

Comedians think so highly of themselves  

tempo_n_groove

Parksy said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

He won't be cancelled, that's for sure.

If he's as 'genius' as some think....  he might be doing more for the debate on 'cancel culture' than anyone...  but as for whether or not he'll be cancelled or not...  I dunno... time shall tell here. 

Damon Wayans has opined that Chappelle's special has "freed the slaves" of comedians that have been or would have been cancelled. 

He won't be cancelled.  The outrage isn't there because their isn't anything to rage about.

F Me In The Brain

Does Damon Wayans still do comedy?

Parksy

F Me In The Brain said:

Does Damon Wayans still do comedy?

I think Homey the Clown still does... or at least tries. 

brianlux

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

nicknyr15

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Because he made jokes about the transgender. And literally everyone else. 

Parksy

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Story (to the best of my knowledge) goes:

During his Netflix special The Closer he made offensive remarks about Transgender people. He has been under fire since... and a group of employees at Netflix have staged a walkout in protest.  GLAAD is apparently up in arms about it as well as other advocacy groups and such. 

I've listened to the bits.... and I can certainly see where they would have an issue.  But as is the case with a lot of these 'cancel culture' issues, there are many layers of context that aren't necessarily being discussed. 

I have opinions... but I'm interested in seeing others first... as it may sway my opinion. Just off the cuff...  it's an interesting listen/watch.  And I could be wild here.... but he could have very well done something that seems like an oxymoron.......   brutally offended / disrespected Trans people and also brutally backed them up and supported them at the same time, which to me is fascinating. 

Parksy

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Because he made jokes about the transgender. And literally everyone else. 

I was gonna say... like... where I see his intelligence is that he almost knew he would catch a lot of flack about the transgender jokes... but yeah a lot of the special had what most would consider to be offensive language towards women, blacks, homosexuals, whites, etc

And I think to him, that's his way of commenting on how peculiar society can be regarding this stuff. 

tempo_n_groove

Parksy said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Because he made jokes about the transgender. And literally everyone else. 

I was gonna say... like... where I see his intelligence is that he almost knew he would catch a lot of flack about the transgender jokes... but yeah a lot of the special had what most would consider to be offensive language towards women, blacks, homosexuals, whites, etc

And I think to him, that's his way of commenting on how peculiar society can be regarding this stuff. 

Yes, he offended "everyone" but one group took offense.

HughFreakingDillon

some say comedy is immune from criticism, that you should be able to joke about anything. 

nicknyr15

Parksy said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Because he made jokes about the transgender. And literally everyone else. 

I was gonna say... like... where I see his intelligence is that he almost knew he would catch a lot of flack about the transgender jokes... but yeah a lot of the special had what most would consider to be offensive language towards women, blacks, homosexuals, whites, etc

And I think to him, that's his way of commenting on how peculiar society can be regarding this stuff. 

Exactly. We’re talking about Dave fucking chappelle. He dressed up in white face on his show and made fun of literally everybody. He’s absolutely hilarious In my opinion and I’m so grateful that he’s at a point in his career where he can not be cancelled and literally does not give a fuck. 

Hobbes

Transgender people just need to grow a pair. Sheesh. 

Merkin Baller

Hobbes said:

Transgender people just need to grow a pair. Sheesh. 

I lol'd 

Parksy

HughFreakingDillon said:

some say comedy is immune from criticism, that you should be able to joke about anything. 

Another way I look at this sometimes...  for the amount of criticism comedians face.  Think of them as scalpers. 

We (in the PJ community) for the most part hate scalpers. 

But they don't exist without folks who pay them.  So who's really to blame, the scalpers or the people who buy tickets from them. In many ways you can blame both, but I don't think you can justify only blaming one. 

Equally... if a comedians craft or job is to make people laugh... and offensive things make people laugh... who's really to blame, the comedian, or the people who enjoy it? 

Personally, I find Dave to be thought provoking and funny. I don't know why, and I don't know if that makes me a bad person to be honest. 

lindamarie73

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

Not much to discuss, he is the GOAT w/ Pryor a close second.  

Parksy

lindamarie73 said:

Parksy said:

Who wants to discuss Dave Chappelle?     

Andddd... go. 

Not much to discuss, he is the GOAT w/ Pryor a close second.  

I politely disagree... with both things you say.  

hedonist

HughFreakingDillon said:

some say comedy is immune from criticism, that you should be able to joke about anything. 

“Nothing’s off-limits.” - Norm

gimmesometruth27

Parksy said:

brianlux said:

 "Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?

Story (to the best of my knowledge) goes:

During his Netflix special The Closer he made offensive remarks about Transgender people. He has been under fire since... and a group of employees at Netflix have staged a walkout in protest.  GLAAD is apparently up in arms about it as well as other advocacy groups and such. 

I've listened to the bits.... and I can certainly see where they would have an issue.  But as is the case with a lot of these 'cancel culture' issues, there are many layers of context that aren't necessarily being discussed. 

I have opinions... but I'm interested in seeing others first... as it may sway my opinion. Just off the cuff...  it's an interesting listen/watch.  And I could be wild here.... but he could have very well done something that seems like an oxymoron.......   brutally offended / disrespected Trans people and also brutally backed them up and supported them at the same time, which to me is fascinating. 

i think what the issue is is he has bashed on transgender people for the last several netflix specials and he appears to really be doubling down on making fun of them. i don't see an issue with one joke here and there but a series of them across a series of shows does seem like he may be picking on them.

comedy is only funny when you punch up at the powerful. it is not funny when you punch down on communities that have been ostracized and looked down on for a long time.