Cancelled!

brianlux

Poncier said:

hedonist said:

oftenreading said:

Johnny Depp complains about being cancelled while in the process of getting a prestigious lifetime achievement award. 

Oh, the irony. 

https://apple.news/AVqumm3uRR3WsWdDS8YAHHA

He should be canceled for that eyeliner. 

He (along with Tim Burton and Helena Bonham Carter) should have been cancelled after this abomination:



Would have spared us subsequent collaborative abominations like Alice in Wonderland and Dark Shadows.

Check out this film instead and them go and read up about both the film and Carter's quest to see that it got made.  You just may love her forever.  I know I do.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/08/helena-bonham-carter-standing-up-to-harvey-weinstein-johnny-depp

Halifax2TheMax

Poor babies.

Fallout begins for far-right trolls who trusted Epik to keep their identities secret

The colossal hack of Epik, an Internet-services company popular with the far right, has been called the “mother of all data lodes” for extremism researchers. Some of those named in the data have already lost their jobs.

In the real world, Joshua Alayon worked as a real estate agent in Pompano Beach, Fla., where he used the handle “SouthFloridasFavoriteRealtor” to urge buyers on Facebook to move to “the most beautiful State.”

But online, data revealed by the massive hack of Epik, an Internet-services company popular with the far right, signaled a darker side. Alayon’s name and personal details were found on invoices suggesting he had once paid for websites with names such as racisminc.com, whitesencyclopedia.com, christiansagainstisrael.com and theholocaustisfake.com.

The information was included in a giant trove of hundreds of thousands of transactions published this month by the hacking group Anonymous that exposed previously obscure details of far-right sites and launched a race among extremism researchers to identify the hidden promoters of online hate.

After Alayon’s name appeared in the breached data, his brokerage, Travers Miran Realty, dropped him as an agent, as first reported by the real estate news site Inman. The brokerage’s owner, Rick Rapp, told The Washington Post that he didn’t “want to be involved with anyone with thoughts or motives like that.”

Alayon told The Post that he does not own the ‘racisminc,’ Holocaust-denial or other Web addresses but declined to say if he had owned them in the past; the records were hacked earlier this year. But in a screenshot of his Epik account, which he sent to The Post, the information for four other domains he currently owns matches the private records that can be found in the Epik breach.

Asked why his name, email address and other personal information were listed in company invoices for the ‘racisminc’ and Holocaust-denial domains, Alayon said the data was “easily falsifiable,” that he was the possible victim of extortion and that The Post was “fake news.”

Epik’s founder, Robert Monster, who did not respond to requests for comment, said the company’s data was hijacked and urged people not to use it with “negative intent.”

Epik hack by Anonymous reveals hidden far-right data - The Washington Post

gimmesometruth27

robert monster is a good pro wrestling name.

Parksy

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

static111

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

gruden about to guest host for hannity when he takes vacation.

Ledbetterman10

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

That's a pretty reasonable argument to make if you feel like making an argument. 

A lot of times, it comes down to optics. Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out on video, never played another down. Joe Mixon was convicted of punching a woman in the face, and he's leading my fantasy team in points. Gruden having everything in writing is a deathnail. 

Oddly, remember that Eagles player that said the N-word on camera at a concert? He didn't even get cut. That was pre-woke-NFL though. 

Parksy

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

That's a pretty reasonable argument to make if you feel like making an argument. 

A lot of times, it comes down to optics. Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out on video, never played another down. Joe Mixon was convicted of punching a woman in the face, and he's leading my fantasy team in points. Gruden having everything in writing is a deathnail. 

Oddly, remember that Eagles player that said the N-word on camera at a concert? He didn't even get cut. That was pre-woke-NFL though. 

Fascinating!

I agree that this stuff opens many cans of worms.   In general, when you reference "pre-woke" NFL....  would you say "wokeness" is a good thing or a bad thing? 

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

That's a pretty reasonable argument to make if you feel like making an argument. 

A lot of times, it comes down to optics. Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out on video, never played another down. Joe Mixon was convicted of punching a woman in the face, and he's leading my fantasy team in points. Gruden having everything in writing is a deathnail. 

Oddly, remember that Eagles player that said the N-word on camera at a concert? He didn't even get cut. That was pre-woke-NFL though. 

Richie Incognito.

How this man still has a job is beyond me...Oh wait.  He plays for the Raiders!

Ledbetterman10

Both Riley Cooper's n-word tirade and Incognitio's bullying scandal were from 2013. As I put it above, pre-woke-NFL. They'd both be done now. Especially Cooper. 

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

Both Riley Cooper's n-word tirade and Incognitio's bullying scandal were from 2013. As I put it above, pre-woke-NFL. They'd both be done now. Especially Cooper. 

Cooper was locker room talk just like Incognitos was though.  I would bet that they both still speak like that still with their teammates.

tempo_n_groove

Kyle Larson made a comeback and did a whole lot to get back.  He should thank Rick Hendricks every day that he gets to drive a car.

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Both Riley Cooper's n-word tirade and Incognitio's bullying scandal were from 2013. As I put it above, pre-woke-NFL. They'd both be done now. Especially Cooper. 

Cooper was locker room talk just like Incognitos was though.  I would bet that they both still speak like that still with their teammates.

Not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that Cooper continued to say the n-word around teammates after being caught on tape saying it?

Either way though, my point is that things are way more sensitive these days than they were just six or seven years ago. Not just in the NFL, but everywhere. 

gimmesometruth27

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

That's a pretty reasonable argument to make if you feel like making an argument. 

A lot of times, it comes down to optics. Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out on video, never played another down. Joe Mixon was convicted of punching a woman in the face, and he's leading my fantasy team in points. Gruden having everything in writing is a deathnail. 

Oddly, remember that Eagles player that said the N-word on camera at a concert? He didn't even get cut. That was pre-woke-NFL though. 

Richie Incognito.

How this man still has a job is beyond me...Oh wait.  He plays for the Raiders!

incognito has always been a pos. when he played for the st louis rams he was always getting handsy with ladies. one of them was my gf at a club one time. what was i gonna do, fight him about it?

hedonist

Parksy said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Parksy said:

In the latest episode of "Cancelled" the world finds out that Jon Gruden is....   an asshole!   (shocking!) 

I'm not sure I'll see a person on this forum who thinks Gruden should still be a coach...  his career in pro sports is likely over after it was revealed that he's a dooshbag. 

I wanted to use this example.. one of many... as an example of the dangers of labelling these circumstances "Cancelled."  

See the problem with Gruden is that there will be a lot of folks who believe that is another victim of "cancel culture."  

"Ahh..  I see Gruden got cancelled." 

Look, if people are going to continue with this word... I think it's more fitting that we change the language a bit here. 

Jon Gruden did not GET cancelled.  Jon Gruden cancelled himself. 

The spin is already in effect.  On the conservative radio they were just asking how players that have been found guilty of domestic abuse, drunk driving, accused of sexual assault etc, get to keep their careers, but this guy doesn't because of his words from 10 years ago.  Oh and they are having rappers on the halftime show or something...the outrage is being generated already.

That's a pretty reasonable argument to make if you feel like making an argument. 

A lot of times, it comes down to optics. Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out on video, never played another down. Joe Mixon was convicted of punching a woman in the face, and he's leading my fantasy team in points. Gruden having everything in writing is a deathnail. 

Oddly, remember that Eagles player that said the N-word on camera at a concert? He didn't even get cut. That was pre-woke-NFL though. 

Fascinating!

I agree that this stuff opens many cans of worms.   In general, when you reference "pre-woke" NFL....  would you say "wokeness" is a good thing or a bad thing? 

I think this is a great question — certainly not a black and white one (no pun, yada yada). It can be taken to levels of extreme, even inanity, and to me, many times used to appear PC.

Imagery.

OnWis97

There's no way teammates just accepted that out of those guys simply because the league had yet to be woke. I don't really know what happened in the locker room but I'm sure it wasn't nice and comfortable for a while. However, players tend to respect guy that can play and put in effort. I'm sure every white player in the NFL is MAGA. And most of the black ones are not. They all live with it; better than most of us do.

I think teammates respected Incognito because the guy he was bullying was seen as "soft." And football is ultimately a "tough guy" sport and culture. Cooper's tirade? When it happened I figured he was done. This was like 15 years after John Rocker faded away into nothing after his tirade.

I don't think the key difference here is "woke" vs. "pre-woke." I think it's "player" vs. "coach/commentator." I think as long as these guys went out and produced, the teammates were willing to swallow it from a teammate. But that teammate doesn't hire coaches, sign players, or determine who gets to start. Maybe this is why Chris Kluwe ("distraction" punter who supported GLBTQ rights) didn't make the team (after the Vikings picked homophobe special teams coach Mike Priefer over him). Gruden literally said that gay players should not be in the league and then he got a job that has a key role in decided who makes the team.

The other difference is "one comment" vs. "a plethora of comments." We're now looking at dozens of emails going after just about anyone you can think of (including football players, given his distaste for taking safety measures for the very guys busting heads for his 9-figure salary).

Riley Cooper? I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's a racist since it was eight years ago. But he is. Well, I know lots of racists with jobs. What I don't know is anyone who sends professional emails using every slur in the book and going after every group in the book. A racist co-worker? I'm sure I have a few. A racist at the top? I hope not. Riley Cooper's presence hurt the league's image, I suppose but he didn't actively hurt the league or the team simply by being there.  Gruden did...at least he certainly may have.

The ideal you want to protect by giving him a pass needs to die.

Ledbetterman10

OnWis97 said:

There's no way teammates just accepted that out of those guys simply because the league had yet to be woke. I don't really know what happened in the locker room but I'm sure it wasn't nice and comfortable for a while. However, players tend to respect guy that can play and put in effort. I'm sure every white player in the NFL is MAGA. And most of the black ones are not. They all live with it; better than most of us do.

I think teammates respected Incognito because the guy he was bullying was seen as "soft." And football is ultimately a "tough guy" sport and culture. Cooper's tirade? When it happened I figured he was done. This was like 15 years after John Rocker faded away into nothing after his tirade.

I don't think the key difference here is "woke" vs. "pre-woke." I think it's "player" vs. "coach/commentator." I think as long as these guys went out and produced, the teammates were willing to swallow it from a teammate. But that teammate doesn't hire coaches, sign players, or determine who gets to start. Maybe this is why Chris Kluwe ("distraction" punter who supported GLBTQ rights) didn't make the team (after the Vikings picked homophobe special teams coach Mike Priefer over him). Gruden literally said that gay players should not be in the league and then he got a job that has a key role in decided who makes the team.

The other difference is "one comment" vs. "a plethora of comments." We're now looking at dozens of emails going after just about anyone you can think of (including football players, given his distaste for taking safety measures for the very guys busting heads for his 9-figure salary).

Riley Cooper? I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's a racist since it was eight years ago. But he is. Well, I know lots of racists with jobs. What I don't know is anyone who sends professional emails using every slur in the book and going after every group in the book. A racist co-worker? I'm sure I have a few. A racist at the top? I hope not. Riley Cooper's presence hurt the league's image, I suppose but he didn't actively hurt the league or the team simply by being there.  Gruden did...at least he certainly may have.

The ideal you want to protect by giving him a pass needs to die.

I'll just address the bolded...

1) Not talking about teammates accepting him. I'm saying if he did the exact same thing now, he'd be gone. Conversely, if Gruden's emails came out then, he wouldn't be forced to resign.

2) No, he didn't literally say that. He said that the league pressured Jeff Fisher into drafting Michael Sam because he's gay. Not sure if that's true. But he didn't say gay players shouldn't be in the league.

3) This is just dumb.

4) Not sure what ideal you're suggesting anyone is trying protect. Nobody saying Gruden should get a pass. I'm just saying he would've gotten one six or seven years ago. 

OnWis97

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

There's no way teammates just accepted that out of those guys simply because the league had yet to be woke. I don't really know what happened in the locker room but I'm sure it wasn't nice and comfortable for a while. However, players tend to respect guy that can play and put in effort. I'm sure every white player in the NFL is MAGA. And most of the black ones are not. They all live with it; better than most of us do.

I think teammates respected Incognito because the guy he was bullying was seen as "soft." And football is ultimately a "tough guy" sport and culture. Cooper's tirade? When it happened I figured he was done. This was like 15 years after John Rocker faded away into nothing after his tirade.

I don't think the key difference here is "woke" vs. "pre-woke." I think it's "player" vs. "coach/commentator." I think as long as these guys went out and produced, the teammates were willing to swallow it from a teammate. But that teammate doesn't hire coaches, sign players, or determine who gets to start. Maybe this is why Chris Kluwe ("distraction" punter who supported GLBTQ rights) didn't make the team (after the Vikings picked homophobe special teams coach Mike Priefer over him). Gruden literally said that gay players should not be in the league and then he got a job that has a key role in decided who makes the team.

The other difference is "one comment" vs. "a plethora of comments." We're now looking at dozens of emails going after just about anyone you can think of (including football players, given his distaste for taking safety measures for the very guys busting heads for his 9-figure salary).

Riley Cooper? I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's a racist since it was eight years ago. But he is. Well, I know lots of racists with jobs. What I don't know is anyone who sends professional emails using every slur in the book and going after every group in the book. A racist co-worker? I'm sure I have a few. A racist at the top? I hope not. Riley Cooper's presence hurt the league's image, I suppose but he didn't actively hurt the league or the team simply by being there.  Gruden did...at least he certainly may have.

The ideal you want to protect by giving him a pass needs to die.

I'll just address the bolded...

1) Not talking about teammates accepting him. I'm saying if he did the exact same thing now, he'd be gone. Conversely, if Gruden's emails came out then, he wouldn't be forced to resign.

2) No, he didn't literally say that. He said that the league pressured Jeff Fisher into drafting Michael Sam because he's gay. Not sure if that's true. But he didn't say gay players shouldn't be in the league.

3) This is just dumb.

4) Not sure what ideal you're suggesting anyone is trying protect. Nobody saying Gruden should get a pass. I'm just saying he would've gotten one six or seven years ago. 

Is Riley Cooper a racist?

Ledbetterman10

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

There's no way teammates just accepted that out of those guys simply because the league had yet to be woke. I don't really know what happened in the locker room but I'm sure it wasn't nice and comfortable for a while. However, players tend to respect guy that can play and put in effort. I'm sure every white player in the NFL is MAGA. And most of the black ones are not. They all live with it; better than most of us do.

I think teammates respected Incognito because the guy he was bullying was seen as "soft." And football is ultimately a "tough guy" sport and culture. Cooper's tirade? When it happened I figured he was done. This was like 15 years after John Rocker faded away into nothing after his tirade.

I don't think the key difference here is "woke" vs. "pre-woke." I think it's "player" vs. "coach/commentator." I think as long as these guys went out and produced, the teammates were willing to swallow it from a teammate. But that teammate doesn't hire coaches, sign players, or determine who gets to start. Maybe this is why Chris Kluwe ("distraction" punter who supported GLBTQ rights) didn't make the team (after the Vikings picked homophobe special teams coach Mike Priefer over him). Gruden literally said that gay players should not be in the league and then he got a job that has a key role in decided who makes the team.

The other difference is "one comment" vs. "a plethora of comments." We're now looking at dozens of emails going after just about anyone you can think of (including football players, given his distaste for taking safety measures for the very guys busting heads for his 9-figure salary).

Riley Cooper? I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's a racist since it was eight years ago. But he is. Well, I know lots of racists with jobs. What I don't know is anyone who sends professional emails using every slur in the book and going after every group in the book. A racist co-worker? I'm sure I have a few. A racist at the top? I hope not. Riley Cooper's presence hurt the league's image, I suppose but he didn't actively hurt the league or the team simply by being there.  Gruden did...at least he certainly may have.

The ideal you want to protect by giving him a pass needs to die.

I'll just address the bolded...

1) Not talking about teammates accepting him. I'm saying if he did the exact same thing now, he'd be gone. Conversely, if Gruden's emails came out then, he wouldn't be forced to resign.

2) No, he didn't literally say that. He said that the league pressured Jeff Fisher into drafting Michael Sam because he's gay. Not sure if that's true. But he didn't say gay players shouldn't be in the league.

3) This is just dumb.

4) Not sure what ideal you're suggesting anyone is trying protect. Nobody saying Gruden should get a pass. I'm just saying he would've gotten one six or seven years ago. 

Is Riley Cooper a racist?

Yes, I would submit to you that anyone that would say "I want to fight ever n***** here" is, in fact, a racist. What's dumb if you saying "I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's racist since it was eight years ago." 

OnWis97

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

There's no way teammates just accepted that out of those guys simply because the league had yet to be woke. I don't really know what happened in the locker room but I'm sure it wasn't nice and comfortable for a while. However, players tend to respect guy that can play and put in effort. I'm sure every white player in the NFL is MAGA. And most of the black ones are not. They all live with it; better than most of us do.

I think teammates respected Incognito because the guy he was bullying was seen as "soft." And football is ultimately a "tough guy" sport and culture. Cooper's tirade? When it happened I figured he was done. This was like 15 years after John Rocker faded away into nothing after his tirade.

I don't think the key difference here is "woke" vs. "pre-woke." I think it's "player" vs. "coach/commentator." I think as long as these guys went out and produced, the teammates were willing to swallow it from a teammate. But that teammate doesn't hire coaches, sign players, or determine who gets to start. Maybe this is why Chris Kluwe ("distraction" punter who supported GLBTQ rights) didn't make the team (after the Vikings picked homophobe special teams coach Mike Priefer over him). Gruden literally said that gay players should not be in the league and then he got a job that has a key role in decided who makes the team.

The other difference is "one comment" vs. "a plethora of comments." We're now looking at dozens of emails going after just about anyone you can think of (including football players, given his distaste for taking safety measures for the very guys busting heads for his 9-figure salary).

Riley Cooper? I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's a racist since it was eight years ago. But he is. Well, I know lots of racists with jobs. What I don't know is anyone who sends professional emails using every slur in the book and going after every group in the book. A racist co-worker? I'm sure I have a few. A racist at the top? I hope not. Riley Cooper's presence hurt the league's image, I suppose but he didn't actively hurt the league or the team simply by being there.  Gruden did...at least he certainly may have.

The ideal you want to protect by giving him a pass needs to die.

I'll just address the bolded...

1) Not talking about teammates accepting him. I'm saying if he did the exact same thing now, he'd be gone. Conversely, if Gruden's emails came out then, he wouldn't be forced to resign.

2) No, he didn't literally say that. He said that the league pressured Jeff Fisher into drafting Michael Sam because he's gay. Not sure if that's true. But he didn't say gay players shouldn't be in the league.

3) This is just dumb.

4) Not sure what ideal you're suggesting anyone is trying protect. Nobody saying Gruden should get a pass. I'm just saying he would've gotten one six or seven years ago. 

Is Riley Cooper a racist?

Yes, I would submit to you that anyone that would say "I want to fight ever n***** here" is, in fact, a racist. What's dumb if you saying "I suppose I'm not even allowed to say he's racist since it was eight years ago." 

I gave you the opportunity to say "it was eight years ago" or "it was one time." And you didn't. That leaves me with a bit of egg on my face. But most of the right and even middle/left would be willing to say it like that. Most of the anti-wokers would not say that (obviously per anecdotal observation; I have no data).