#46 President Joe Biden
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mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
You can say, oh blah blah better than Trump, but elections are choices. You had three of them. Biden, Trump or stay home. You can whine and complain about your choices but that doesn't change them. And if you think that the Feb stimulus is why oil is $109 a barrel, then you should go back to watching pillow commercials and how to stop the steal.Seriously…pillows and stop the steal? If that is all you got…. Such a stupid response
Ok, let's reset. I've lost more $ (unrealized gains, etc of course) over the last 5 months than I've actually made in wages in the last 12 months. That is a problem.
There are external issues at hand that certainly are major factors, mostly the Pandemic and the War. Biden was not in charge during the entire pandemic so I fully realize it is not all on him. But the government's "solution" to the pandemic under both presidents has been far from ideal. Short-term thinking and just really dumb spending for what....votes.
The war is out of the control of the president and certainly a major factor for gas prices and thus prices of many commodities. The cost of everything is pretty crazy right now. There are lots of job opportunities for sure, but no one willing to fill it seems.
So - I am disappointed in Biden's first year though of his response. I think his massive spending plan (not passed) would not help, but hurt. Haven't seen much get done to help at all...and I do realize that congress is a cesspool that is slowing or stopping some progress. But That doesn't mean the person in charge gets a pass.
It's been a big hurt to retirement funds for everyone. And if you are in power, you are going to share in the blame. So - I am not happy with Biden's performance on most issues at all. And if it's trump vs Biden in 2024 again....man what an awful scenario.Global leads to energy being a main culprit, right?We are basically at peak oil now, because 2021 was the worst year for new discoveries since 1946 and cash to invest is scarce. Investors are not willing in the current “green” climate to put down big money on fossil fuel and neither is the party in charge likely to create incentive to invest. They are more interested in renewable investments, but that will not help the current energy problem.
So, in a way, democrats are somewhat to blame, @nicknyr15 had a very reasonable point earlier. Sorry if I jumped into a 1:1 here
https://qz.com/2107452/oil-and-gas-discoveries-are-at-the-lowest-level-since-1946/
Even if the R party provided subsidies, it wouldn't make a lick of difference in the price today. And considering this cash shortage is because they are paying dividends and reducing debt, that would be ridiculously irresponsible to do that with tax payer moneyThe article mentions that the ratio of proven reserves to production is at its lowest levels since 2011, a very long term trend. Industry investment now is half of what it was in 2014. Oil and gas dividends are currently triple that of the average S and P companies. You mentioned OPEC but a big difference between now and and the price spike from 10+ years ago is the lack US investment now.What did Obama say about his stimulus, if private sector does not invest, the govt needs to step in? I’m not saying that should happen, just that Dems would never touch anything with fossil fuels. Their renewable energy solutions are many years away, and they are leaving a huge opportunity for the GOP to step in. In NYS they are talking about banning natural gas and heating oil, and despite how good a job Sweden does with renewable heat, we are not close to scalable affordable technology here IMO.
The oil industry, even outside OPEC, has responded to the renewable push…investing is high risk and maximizing distributions are a priority. This is barely getting any coverage in the MSM. I think Nicks point on D vs R, at least regarding energy prices, is reasonable0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
You can say, oh blah blah better than Trump, but elections are choices. You had three of them. Biden, Trump or stay home. You can whine and complain about your choices but that doesn't change them. And if you think that the Feb stimulus is why oil is $109 a barrel, then you should go back to watching pillow commercials and how to stop the steal.Seriously…pillows and stop the steal? If that is all you got…. Such a stupid response
Ok, let's reset. I've lost more $ (unrealized gains, etc of course) over the last 5 months than I've actually made in wages in the last 12 months. That is a problem.
There are external issues at hand that certainly are major factors, mostly the Pandemic and the War. Biden was not in charge during the entire pandemic so I fully realize it is not all on him. But the government's "solution" to the pandemic under both presidents has been far from ideal. Short-term thinking and just really dumb spending for what....votes.
The war is out of the control of the president and certainly a major factor for gas prices and thus prices of many commodities. The cost of everything is pretty crazy right now. There are lots of job opportunities for sure, but no one willing to fill it seems.
So - I am disappointed in Biden's first year though of his response. I think his massive spending plan (not passed) would not help, but hurt. Haven't seen much get done to help at all...and I do realize that congress is a cesspool that is slowing or stopping some progress. But That doesn't mean the person in charge gets a pass.
It's been a big hurt to retirement funds for everyone. And if you are in power, you are going to share in the blame. So - I am not happy with Biden's performance on most issues at all. And if it's trump vs Biden in 2024 again....man what an awful scenario.Global leads to energy being a main culprit, right?We are basically at peak oil now, because 2021 was the worst year for new discoveries since 1946 and cash to invest is scarce. Investors are not willing in the current “green” climate to put down big money on fossil fuel and neither is the party in charge likely to create incentive to invest. They are more interested in renewable investments, but that will not help the current energy problem.
So, in a way, democrats are somewhat to blame, @nicknyr15 had a very reasonable point earlier. Sorry if I jumped into a 1:1 here
https://qz.com/2107452/oil-and-gas-discoveries-are-at-the-lowest-level-since-1946/
Even if the R party provided subsidies, it wouldn't make a lick of difference in the price today. And considering this cash shortage is because they are paying dividends and reducing debt, that would be ridiculously irresponsible to do that with tax payer moneyThe article mentions that the ratio of proven reserves to production is at its lowest levels since 2011, a very long term trend. Industry investment now is half of what it was in 2014. Oil and gas dividends are currently triple that of the average S and P companies. You mentioned OPEC but a big difference between now and and the price spike from 10+ years ago is the lack US investment now.What did Obama say about his stimulus, if private sector does not invest, the govt needs to step in? I’m not saying that should happen, just that Dems would never touch anything with fossil fuels. Their renewable energy solutions are many years away, and they are leaving a huge opportunity for the GOP to step in. In NYS they are talking about banning natural gas and heating oil, and despite how good a job Sweden does with renewable heat, we are not close to scalable affordable technology here IMO.
The oil industry, even outside OPEC, has responded to the renewable push…investing is high risk and maximizing distributions are a priority. This is barely getting any coverage in the MSM. I think Nicks point on D vs R, at least regarding energy prices, is reasonable
how many unexplored leases are currently held by various companies?
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mickeyrat said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
You can say, oh blah blah better than Trump, but elections are choices. You had three of them. Biden, Trump or stay home. You can whine and complain about your choices but that doesn't change them. And if you think that the Feb stimulus is why oil is $109 a barrel, then you should go back to watching pillow commercials and how to stop the steal.Seriously…pillows and stop the steal? If that is all you got…. Such a stupid response
Ok, let's reset. I've lost more $ (unrealized gains, etc of course) over the last 5 months than I've actually made in wages in the last 12 months. That is a problem.
There are external issues at hand that certainly are major factors, mostly the Pandemic and the War. Biden was not in charge during the entire pandemic so I fully realize it is not all on him. But the government's "solution" to the pandemic under both presidents has been far from ideal. Short-term thinking and just really dumb spending for what....votes.
The war is out of the control of the president and certainly a major factor for gas prices and thus prices of many commodities. The cost of everything is pretty crazy right now. There are lots of job opportunities for sure, but no one willing to fill it seems.
So - I am disappointed in Biden's first year though of his response. I think his massive spending plan (not passed) would not help, but hurt. Haven't seen much get done to help at all...and I do realize that congress is a cesspool that is slowing or stopping some progress. But That doesn't mean the person in charge gets a pass.
It's been a big hurt to retirement funds for everyone. And if you are in power, you are going to share in the blame. So - I am not happy with Biden's performance on most issues at all. And if it's trump vs Biden in 2024 again....man what an awful scenario.Global leads to energy being a main culprit, right?We are basically at peak oil now, because 2021 was the worst year for new discoveries since 1946 and cash to invest is scarce. Investors are not willing in the current “green” climate to put down big money on fossil fuel and neither is the party in charge likely to create incentive to invest. They are more interested in renewable investments, but that will not help the current energy problem.
So, in a way, democrats are somewhat to blame, @nicknyr15 had a very reasonable point earlier. Sorry if I jumped into a 1:1 here
https://qz.com/2107452/oil-and-gas-discoveries-are-at-the-lowest-level-since-1946/
Even if the R party provided subsidies, it wouldn't make a lick of difference in the price today. And considering this cash shortage is because they are paying dividends and reducing debt, that would be ridiculously irresponsible to do that with tax payer moneyThe article mentions that the ratio of proven reserves to production is at its lowest levels since 2011, a very long term trend. Industry investment now is half of what it was in 2014. Oil and gas dividends are currently triple that of the average S and P companies. You mentioned OPEC but a big difference between now and and the price spike from 10+ years ago is the lack US investment now.What did Obama say about his stimulus, if private sector does not invest, the govt needs to step in? I’m not saying that should happen, just that Dems would never touch anything with fossil fuels. Their renewable energy solutions are many years away, and they are leaving a huge opportunity for the GOP to step in. In NYS they are talking about banning natural gas and heating oil, and despite how good a job Sweden does with renewable heat, we are not close to scalable affordable technology here IMO.
The oil industry, even outside OPEC, has responded to the renewable push…investing is high risk and maximizing distributions are a priority. This is barely getting any coverage in the MSM. I think Nicks point on D vs R, at least regarding energy prices, is reasonable
how many unexplored leases are currently held by various companies?Probably a lot of unexplored leases, but that goes to the point they don’t want to spend any money. They hear the music, renewables are the new lady in town, so this is their last chance to gouge consumers. Problem is, renewables are still toddlers and aren’t ready to make it to the dance.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mickeyrat said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
You can say, oh blah blah better than Trump, but elections are choices. You had three of them. Biden, Trump or stay home. You can whine and complain about your choices but that doesn't change them. And if you think that the Feb stimulus is why oil is $109 a barrel, then you should go back to watching pillow commercials and how to stop the steal.Seriously…pillows and stop the steal? If that is all you got…. Such a stupid response
Ok, let's reset. I've lost more $ (unrealized gains, etc of course) over the last 5 months than I've actually made in wages in the last 12 months. That is a problem.
There are external issues at hand that certainly are major factors, mostly the Pandemic and the War. Biden was not in charge during the entire pandemic so I fully realize it is not all on him. But the government's "solution" to the pandemic under both presidents has been far from ideal. Short-term thinking and just really dumb spending for what....votes.
The war is out of the control of the president and certainly a major factor for gas prices and thus prices of many commodities. The cost of everything is pretty crazy right now. There are lots of job opportunities for sure, but no one willing to fill it seems.
So - I am disappointed in Biden's first year though of his response. I think his massive spending plan (not passed) would not help, but hurt. Haven't seen much get done to help at all...and I do realize that congress is a cesspool that is slowing or stopping some progress. But That doesn't mean the person in charge gets a pass.
It's been a big hurt to retirement funds for everyone. And if you are in power, you are going to share in the blame. So - I am not happy with Biden's performance on most issues at all. And if it's trump vs Biden in 2024 again....man what an awful scenario.Global leads to energy being a main culprit, right?We are basically at peak oil now, because 2021 was the worst year for new discoveries since 1946 and cash to invest is scarce. Investors are not willing in the current “green” climate to put down big money on fossil fuel and neither is the party in charge likely to create incentive to invest. They are more interested in renewable investments, but that will not help the current energy problem.
So, in a way, democrats are somewhat to blame, @nicknyr15 had a very reasonable point earlier. Sorry if I jumped into a 1:1 here
https://qz.com/2107452/oil-and-gas-discoveries-are-at-the-lowest-level-since-1946/
Even if the R party provided subsidies, it wouldn't make a lick of difference in the price today. And considering this cash shortage is because they are paying dividends and reducing debt, that would be ridiculously irresponsible to do that with tax payer moneyThe article mentions that the ratio of proven reserves to production is at its lowest levels since 2011, a very long term trend. Industry investment now is half of what it was in 2014. Oil and gas dividends are currently triple that of the average S and P companies. You mentioned OPEC but a big difference between now and and the price spike from 10+ years ago is the lack US investment now.What did Obama say about his stimulus, if private sector does not invest, the govt needs to step in? I’m not saying that should happen, just that Dems would never touch anything with fossil fuels. Their renewable energy solutions are many years away, and they are leaving a huge opportunity for the GOP to step in. In NYS they are talking about banning natural gas and heating oil, and despite how good a job Sweden does with renewable heat, we are not close to scalable affordable technology here IMO.
The oil industry, even outside OPEC, has responded to the renewable push…investing is high risk and maximizing distributions are a priority. This is barely getting any coverage in the MSM. I think Nicks point on D vs R, at least regarding energy prices, is reasonable
how many unexplored leases are currently held by various companies?Probably a lot of unexplored leases, but that goes to the point they don’t want to spend any money. They hear the music, renewables are the new lady in town, so this is their last chance to gouge consumers. Problem is, renewables are still toddlers and aren’t ready to make it to the dance.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mickeyrat said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
You can say, oh blah blah better than Trump, but elections are choices. You had three of them. Biden, Trump or stay home. You can whine and complain about your choices but that doesn't change them. And if you think that the Feb stimulus is why oil is $109 a barrel, then you should go back to watching pillow commercials and how to stop the steal.Seriously…pillows and stop the steal? If that is all you got…. Such a stupid response
Ok, let's reset. I've lost more $ (unrealized gains, etc of course) over the last 5 months than I've actually made in wages in the last 12 months. That is a problem.
There are external issues at hand that certainly are major factors, mostly the Pandemic and the War. Biden was not in charge during the entire pandemic so I fully realize it is not all on him. But the government's "solution" to the pandemic under both presidents has been far from ideal. Short-term thinking and just really dumb spending for what....votes.
The war is out of the control of the president and certainly a major factor for gas prices and thus prices of many commodities. The cost of everything is pretty crazy right now. There are lots of job opportunities for sure, but no one willing to fill it seems.
So - I am disappointed in Biden's first year though of his response. I think his massive spending plan (not passed) would not help, but hurt. Haven't seen much get done to help at all...and I do realize that congress is a cesspool that is slowing or stopping some progress. But That doesn't mean the person in charge gets a pass.
It's been a big hurt to retirement funds for everyone. And if you are in power, you are going to share in the blame. So - I am not happy with Biden's performance on most issues at all. And if it's trump vs Biden in 2024 again....man what an awful scenario.Global leads to energy being a main culprit, right?We are basically at peak oil now, because 2021 was the worst year for new discoveries since 1946 and cash to invest is scarce. Investors are not willing in the current “green” climate to put down big money on fossil fuel and neither is the party in charge likely to create incentive to invest. They are more interested in renewable investments, but that will not help the current energy problem.
So, in a way, democrats are somewhat to blame, @nicknyr15 had a very reasonable point earlier. Sorry if I jumped into a 1:1 here
https://qz.com/2107452/oil-and-gas-discoveries-are-at-the-lowest-level-since-1946/
Even if the R party provided subsidies, it wouldn't make a lick of difference in the price today. And considering this cash shortage is because they are paying dividends and reducing debt, that would be ridiculously irresponsible to do that with tax payer moneyThe article mentions that the ratio of proven reserves to production is at its lowest levels since 2011, a very long term trend. Industry investment now is half of what it was in 2014. Oil and gas dividends are currently triple that of the average S and P companies. You mentioned OPEC but a big difference between now and and the price spike from 10+ years ago is the lack US investment now.What did Obama say about his stimulus, if private sector does not invest, the govt needs to step in? I’m not saying that should happen, just that Dems would never touch anything with fossil fuels. Their renewable energy solutions are many years away, and they are leaving a huge opportunity for the GOP to step in. In NYS they are talking about banning natural gas and heating oil, and despite how good a job Sweden does with renewable heat, we are not close to scalable affordable technology here IMO.
The oil industry, even outside OPEC, has responded to the renewable push…investing is high risk and maximizing distributions are a priority. This is barely getting any coverage in the MSM. I think Nicks point on D vs R, at least regarding energy prices, is reasonable
how many unexplored leases are currently held by various companies?Probably a lot of unexplored leases, but that goes to the point they don’t want to spend any money. They hear the music, renewables are the new lady in town, so this is their last chance to gouge consumers. Problem is, renewables are still toddlers and aren’t ready to make it to the dance.0 -
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6 months in, Biden's infrastructure plan has 4,300 projectsBy JOSH BOAK2 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Six months after the signing of President Joe Biden's $1 trillion infrastructure package, the government said Monday there are 4,300 projects underway with more than $110 billion in funding announced — milestones the administration is publicly heralding as midterm politics intensify.
White House senior adviser Mitch Landrieu, the former mayor of New Orleans, said the roads, bridges and other projects are laying “a foundation for tremendous growth into the future.” Landrieu said Biden and members of his administration have made more than 125 trips to highlight the bipartisan investments in infrastructure. He declined to predict how much the storytelling will resonate with voters as construction starts.
“I think that if Americans step back, we will all have to admit that for the last 50 years we’ve had the need to do this and we haven’t found the will or the way to get it done,” Landrieu told reporters. He added that this is a “wonderful down payment” on infrastructure needs in the country that total roughly $7 trillion.
The administration made a strategic calculation that delivering results would help Democrats retain control of the House and the Senate in this year's elections. Infrastructure was a rare source of bipartisan unity as Biden struck a deal that attracted several Republican senators. The law contains money to expand internet access and replace lead water pipes and for rail and public transit projects and investments to address climate change.
When Biden signed the law on Nov. 15, he pledged to voters that “America is moving again and your life is going to change for the better.”
Six months later, the stock market is down, inflation is near a 40-year peak, Russia's war in Ukraine is pushing up energy costs and many Americans feel pessimistic about the economy's health. There is an open question whether voters will reward infrastructure projects in which the benefits are years away as part of what Biden has portrayed as an “infrastructure decade.”
“All we can do is tell the story about what we do, and the impact that it has on the midterms will be whatever it’s going to be,” Landrieu said.
Of the $110 billion announced so far, $52.5 billion is for federal highway funding this fiscal year and $20.5 billion for public transit. There is another $27 billion over five years for bridges, as well as money for safety, rural highways, airports, ports, drought resilience and other programs.
The infrastructure spending is also one area where political leaders will have to share credit with each other. Governors and mayors are responsible for 90% of the expenditures in the law, while the federal government accounts for 10% of the spending. The administration has actively tried to help state and local governments compete for the money, with Landrieu noting that even Republican critics are generally eager to receive the funding.
“Some really smart person said, you know, even those people that voted no want the dough,” he said. “This is as close to consensus in my political life that I have seen.”
The Commerce Department last week called on states to begin the process of submitting their plans for universal access to high-speed internet. Biden has also taken steps to maximize the likelihood that construction materials are made domestically, as the money has started to go out.
Landrieu said the two biggest challenges of coordinating the spending have involved offering technical assistance to smaller governments and enabling workforce development to fill the jobs being created. There are 7.6 million construction jobs in the U.S., with employers advertising about 400,000 openings in the sector.
Landrieu said that those challenges are also “an unbelievable opportunity to get right something that we actually haven’t been collectively very good at in the country.”
If the government succeeds with coordination and future administrations follow suit, Landrieu said, “America is going to grow exponentially faster and winning the 21st century is not going to be a challenge for us.”
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U.S. military aircraft will deliver 132 pallets of baby formula from Germany to Indianapolis over the weekend, in support of a Biden administration initiative that aims to quickly increase supplies of the food source amid a national shortage.
The flights are part of Operation Fly Formula, which was launched after President Biden authorized the Agriculture Department and the Department of Health and Human Services to request Pentagon-contracted commercial planes to deliver formula from abroad. Military planes will transport the supplies this time, as no commercial aircraft were available, the White House said.
The imports will fill immediate gaps while also buying time for domestic manufacturers to ramp up production. The military’s involvement in transporting baby formula reflects the urgency of the shortage, which is particularly hitting medically vulnerable babies and some older children who may rely on formula because of life-threatening food allergies.
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Was listening to Morning Joe. And Mika made a comment I found myself thinking but also trying not to be negative just for negative sake. She was pretty angry that Joe and white house taking a victory lap for pallets of formula to feed "9000 babies for a week"... wanting more sustained change.
Now - the work with the FDA and the plant that had the issues is where the real issue gets solved more systemically. And providing the other facilities priority in obtaining raw materials. That is the stuff that fixes it long-term...the flight honestly feels like a trump-like twitter win.
I understand why the formula factory was shut down....I do not understand the process after that...I do not understand how it remained shut that long. I also do not know the true dynamics of that company or their management. Perhaps they are extremely negligent. But if not, this is the issue with many government regulators....it's not about working and improving, it's about punishing. Sometimes appropriate though.
I'm glad Biden used the powers to help get the raw materials available and get the other plant in process of starting up.hippiemom = goodness0 -
When the making of baby formula is limited to three different producers it would seem like a sustained shutdown of one of them should have triggered some urgency on the part of the FDA who shut it down. Maybe there were warnings along the way and they were ignored, but this issue seems predictable to anyone close to the industry that was aware of the shutdown.0
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Dumb questions from a guy (me) who has worked with kids, help raise nephew who were past infancy, but never had kids of my own: Why is there so much widespread need for baby formula? Is breast feeding that uncommon today?
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brianlux said:Dumb questions from a guy (me) who has worked with kids, help raise nephew who were past infancy, but never had kids of my own: Why is there so much widespread need for baby formula? Is breast feeding that uncommon today?
Breastfeeding isn't just a very simply process in many cases.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:brianlux said:Dumb questions from a guy (me) who has worked with kids, help raise nephew who were past infancy, but never had kids of my own: Why is there so much widespread need for baby formula? Is breast feeding that uncommon today?
Breastfeeding isn't just a very simply process in many cases.What leads me to wonder about this- and I'm not expert obviously, so I don't know how true this is- but I have heard that kids who are breastfeed build stronger immune systems and are healthier overall. If this is true, I would think there would be more of a push to encourage breastfeeding rather than push formula."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
cincybearcat said:Was listening to Morning Joe. And Mika made a comment I found myself thinking but also trying not to be negative just for negative sake. She was pretty angry that Joe and white house taking a victory lap for pallets of formula to feed "9000 babies for a week"... wanting more sustained change.
Now - the work with the FDA and the plant that had the issues is where the real issue gets solved more systemically. And providing the other facilities priority in obtaining raw materials. That is the stuff that fixes it long-term...the flight honestly feels like a trump-like twitter win.
I understand why the formula factory was shut down....I do not understand the process after that...I do not understand how it remained shut that long. I also do not know the true dynamics of that company or their management. Perhaps they are extremely negligent. But if not, this is the issue with many government regulators....it's not about working and improving, it's about punishing. Sometimes appropriate though.
I'm glad Biden used the powers to help get the raw materials available and get the other plant in process of starting up.This is an example of poor messaging by democrats. The point should be driven home, do we want a government that intervenes, or leave business alone and let the market decide when a company messes up with bacteria? If we want the government to be there in time of crises, then how do y’all vote against democrats?0 -
brianlux said:cincybearcat said:brianlux said:Dumb questions from a guy (me) who has worked with kids, help raise nephew who were past infancy, but never had kids of my own: Why is there so much widespread need for baby formula? Is breast feeding that uncommon today?
Breastfeeding isn't just a very simply process in many cases.What leads me to wonder about this- and I'm not expert obviously, so I don't know how true this is- but I have heard that kids who are breastfeed build stronger immune systems and are healthier overall. If this is true, I would think there would be more of a push to encourage breastfeeding rather than push formula.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:cincybearcat said:Was listening to Morning Joe. And Mika made a comment I found myself thinking but also trying not to be negative just for negative sake. She was pretty angry that Joe and white house taking a victory lap for pallets of formula to feed "9000 babies for a week"... wanting more sustained change.
Now - the work with the FDA and the plant that had the issues is where the real issue gets solved more systemically. And providing the other facilities priority in obtaining raw materials. That is the stuff that fixes it long-term...the flight honestly feels like a trump-like twitter win.
I understand why the formula factory was shut down....I do not understand the process after that...I do not understand how it remained shut that long. I also do not know the true dynamics of that company or their management. Perhaps they are extremely negligent. But if not, this is the issue with many government regulators....it's not about working and improving, it's about punishing. Sometimes appropriate though.
I'm glad Biden used the powers to help get the raw materials available and get the other plant in process of starting up.This is an example of poor messaging by democrats. The point should be driven home, do we want a government that intervenes, or leave business alone and let the market decide when a company messes up with bacteria? If we want the government to be there in time of crises, then how do y’all vote against democrats?hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:Lerxst1992 said:cincybearcat said:Was listening to Morning Joe. And Mika made a comment I found myself thinking but also trying not to be negative just for negative sake. She was pretty angry that Joe and white house taking a victory lap for pallets of formula to feed "9000 babies for a week"... wanting more sustained change.
Now - the work with the FDA and the plant that had the issues is where the real issue gets solved more systemically. And providing the other facilities priority in obtaining raw materials. That is the stuff that fixes it long-term...the flight honestly feels like a trump-like twitter win.
I understand why the formula factory was shut down....I do not understand the process after that...I do not understand how it remained shut that long. I also do not know the true dynamics of that company or their management. Perhaps they are extremely negligent. But if not, this is the issue with many government regulators....it's not about working and improving, it's about punishing. Sometimes appropriate though.
I'm glad Biden used the powers to help get the raw materials available and get the other plant in process of starting up.This is an example of poor messaging by democrats. The point should be driven home, do we want a government that intervenes, or leave business alone and let the market decide when a company messes up with bacteria? If we want the government to be there in time of crises, then how do y’all vote against democrats?0 -
mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:Lerxst1992 said:cincybearcat said:Was listening to Morning Joe. And Mika made a comment I found myself thinking but also trying not to be negative just for negative sake. She was pretty angry that Joe and white house taking a victory lap for pallets of formula to feed "9000 babies for a week"... wanting more sustained change.
Now - the work with the FDA and the plant that had the issues is where the real issue gets solved more systemically. And providing the other facilities priority in obtaining raw materials. That is the stuff that fixes it long-term...the flight honestly feels like a trump-like twitter win.
I understand why the formula factory was shut down....I do not understand the process after that...I do not understand how it remained shut that long. I also do not know the true dynamics of that company or their management. Perhaps they are extremely negligent. But if not, this is the issue with many government regulators....it's not about working and improving, it's about punishing. Sometimes appropriate though.
I'm glad Biden used the powers to help get the raw materials available and get the other plant in process of starting up.This is an example of poor messaging by democrats. The point should be driven home, do we want a government that intervenes, or leave business alone and let the market decide when a company messes up with bacteria? If we want the government to be there in time of crises, then how do y’all vote against democrats?hippiemom = goodness0 -
brianlux said:cincybearcat said:brianlux said:Dumb questions from a guy (me) who has worked with kids, help raise nephew who were past infancy, but never had kids of my own: Why is there so much widespread need for baby formula? Is breast feeding that uncommon today?
Breastfeeding isn't just a very simply process in many cases.What leads me to wonder about this- and I'm not expert obviously, so I don't know how true this is- but I have heard that kids who are breastfeed build stronger immune systems and are healthier overall. If this is true, I would think there would be more of a push to encourage breastfeeding rather than push formula.0
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