Don't see that happening. Getting a crew and gear together. Rehearsing, then shipping everything over for just two shows.
Or; maybe the opportunity to get a crew together, and more importantly generate income for them because they haven't been paid in a while, and rehearse and play 2 live shows might be seen as a real opportunity to start to get back to it?
I don't see how it makes economic sense for PJ to do this for 2 shows
I'm sure the cost of all these things - "Getting a crew and gear together. Rehearsing, then shipping everything over" to the EU - is factored into their gross appearance fees for the entire EU dates.
If the motivation to get their crew (and themselves) some cash then a tour of Australia/NZ with nearby stops in COVID safe countries makes way more sense than a couple shows in London. New shows that haven't been sold yet so ticket pricing can be set accordingly.
You're probably right mate as I have no idea about the costs of shows and tours (except for buying tickets).
Not sure how much equipment has to be brought over as it is BST so I am guessing a lot of equipment will be in place. You never know the band (never spoken to them so only speculating- Ed won't answer my calls!!) might not be driven for profits for themselves but might be motivated to employ and pay their crew.
Your Australian/NZ makes sense and if it was a straight choice of where to go I would back that but BST tickets are already sold so could feel bound to honour them.
I know nothing for sure am just speculating! As the wise Greek says it ain't over until the official press release.
Saw the Australian interview with Ed whereby he predicts the first place they will play will be Australia.....there wasnt much reading between the lines needed
Fact is a decent amount of tickets to PJ shows come from traveling fans, which PJ knows. With this show probably having even more travelers then average, I just don't see it happening. I have tickets, want it to happen and would be coming from Canada. However, two days ago we introduced hotel quarantine to get back into the country making unrestricted travel by July seem to be unrealistic.
I am an optimist and would love for it to happen, things are changing by the minute so I hold some hope. However, my prediction is that the first PJ show is at the SeaNow festival in NY and then Ohana in September. Even that is questionable, but a lot of signs are pointing to late summer/early fall for full openings in North America.
Next week I'll request a refund for BST. This ain't happening. A month ago I had my fingers crossed, but as I go into my 2nd dose of Moderna tomorrow, I realize that millions upon millions of people still don't have it. I work in healthcare and I learned that we are bracing for a third wave, smaller, but still a third wave due to the rampant development of the variant strains of Covid-19. By August, we'll have to get a third shot as a booster. It's all a fucking mess. But, I got tickets for Ohana, and I'm set for that, hotel booked and everything. I'm canceling my BST, and go to Paris instead and do a full week there now that I won't make a pit stop in London. I've always wanted/needed to see PJ in London.
~*~Me and Hippiemom dranketh the red wine in Cleveland 2003~*~
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
Next week I'll request a refund for BST. This ain't happening. A month ago I had my fingers crossed, but as I go into my 2nd dose of Moderna tomorrow, I realize that millions upon millions of people still don't have it. I work in healthcare and I learned that we are bracing for a third wave, smaller, but still a third wave due to the rampant development of the variant strains of Covid-19. By August, we'll have to get a third shot as a booster. It's all a fucking mess. But, I got tickets for Ohana, and I'm set for that, hotel booked and everything. I'm canceling my BST, and go to Paris instead and do a full week there now that I won't make a pit stop in London. I've always wanted/needed to see PJ in London.
I assume you are American, if so be careful with Paris plans its by no means certain non EU citizens will be allowed by then
Next week I'll request a refund for BST. This ain't happening. A month ago I had my fingers crossed, but as I go into my 2nd dose of Moderna tomorrow, I realize that millions upon millions of people still don't have it. I work in healthcare and I learned that we are bracing for a third wave, smaller, but still a third wave due to the rampant development of the variant strains of Covid-19. By August, we'll have to get a third shot as a booster. It's all a fucking mess. But, I got tickets for Ohana, and I'm set for that, hotel booked and everything. I'm canceling my BST, and go to Paris instead and do a full week there now that I won't make a pit stop in London. I've always wanted/needed to see PJ in London.
I assume you are American, if so be careful with Paris plans its by no means certain non EU citizens will be allowed by then
And France has vaccinated way way less people than the U.K. and US.
Saw the Australian interview with Ed whereby he predicts the first place they will play will be Australia.....there wasnt much reading between the lines needed
Blimey that will be impressive to get an Australian gig in before 9th July when they play BST
I like the way you're thinking!
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Take it with a grain of salt, but rumours over on the efestivals forum are that BST may be moving to a September slot.
Yeah, but surely PJ won't move with them. Werchter is close to being called off or moved too. Best we can get at this point is rescheduling to 2022 in full. Fingers crossed.
Take it with a grain of salt, but rumours over on the efestivals forum are that BST may be moving to a September slot.
Yeah, but surely PJ won't move with them. Werchter is close to being called off or moved too. Best we can get at this point is rescheduling to 2022 in full. Fingers crossed.
Yeah I'd say there is very little chance that they'd play the new dates. It seemed unlikely they'd play in July but if the festival is moved that probably gives them the contractual right to drop out even if the festival can go ahead.
A September date could work if it’s linked to Sea Hear Now. Eg could do BST on September 9th and 10th, they could then fly to NY for Sea Hear Now then to Ohana. So a 4 show 3 weekend tour. Unlikely but could be possible
21st June is a PR stunt by Johnson. So many variables that can change up until then. I don‘t get why people take this date for granted.
Because it's the earliest possible date that festivals can happen. They might very well move later, but they sure as hell ain't gonna happen any earlier - which is why Download have just announced their delay.
If BST moves to September, which is still technically summer, I won't be able to attend, and I doubt Pearl Jam will still be headlining, especially with the prep Eddie needs to do to oversee Ohana a couple weeks later.
And yes, I'm monitoring the situation in France, and I'm flexible with my dates to visit Paris as soon as visit restrictions for Americans are lifted, but I do think it'll be fine to travel there in July or August. If not, I'll visit in December for Christmas.
~*~Me and Hippiemom dranketh the red wine in Cleveland 2003~*~
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
Just been reading. BST is now the only major U.K. festival yet to announce. I’m hoping it goes the same way as Isle of Wight and goes ahead on either 3rd/4th or 10/11th September to form a mini run of shows with Sea Hear Now and Ohana
Just been reading.t BST is now the only major U.K. festival yet to announce. I’m hoping it goes the same way as Isle of Wight and goes ahead on either 3rd/4th or 10/11th September to form a mini run of shows with Sea Hear Now and Ohana
Isle of Wight had to move because it was before June 21. In theory BST does not, but realistically it probably does.
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EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Isle of Wight festival this year just announced pushed back from June to September too
Hello fellow Southeastern! I'm just a hovercraft ride away from IoW. I missed the 2012 edition, so I really hope they could join the 2021 line-up.
Hi back! I missed it too! Downside to IOW is the sheer outrageous cost of the ferry over. Cheaper to head to London. I would definitely be happier with BST in September as an option.
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Isle of Wight festival this year just announced pushed back from June to September too
Hello fellow Southeastern! I'm just a hovercraft ride away from IoW. I missed the 2012 edition, so I really hope they could join the 2021 line-up.
I really hope this switch doesnt happen. Although if they come and do IOW i would dare say a show on the mainland would be guaranteed. I was really excited by the BST days were like Pearl Jam shows and not a typical festival slot so I had high hopes for long shows and interesting setlists.
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Not sure how much equipment has to be brought over as it is BST so I am guessing a lot of equipment will be in place. You never know the band (never spoken to them so only speculating- Ed won't answer my calls!!) might not be driven for profits for themselves but might be motivated to employ and pay their crew.
Your Australian/NZ makes sense and if it was a straight choice of where to go I would back that but BST tickets are already sold so could feel bound to honour them.
I know nothing for sure am just speculating! As the wise Greek says it ain't over until the official press release.
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
And yes, I'm monitoring the situation in France, and I'm flexible with my dates to visit Paris as soon as visit restrictions for Americans are lifted, but I do think it'll be fine to travel there in July or August. If not, I'll visit in December for Christmas.
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
Uk based fans should be able to attend Hyde Park - whether it goes ahead will be a financial not health decision.
2016 MSG 1 & 2/ 2017 London Ed solo/ 2018 London 1, Padua, Rome, Prague & London 2
2019 Dusseldorf & Dublin Ed Solo
2022 Copenhagen, London 1&2, Budapest, Krakow, Vienna, Prague, Ams 1 & Ams 2
2024 Manchester, London, Auckland & Sydney
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2016 MSG 1 & 2/ 2017 London Ed solo/ 2018 London 1, Padua, Rome, Prague & London 2
2019 Dusseldorf & Dublin Ed Solo
2022 Copenhagen, London 1&2, Budapest, Krakow, Vienna, Prague, Ams 1 & Ams 2
2024 Manchester, London, Auckland & Sydney
TBH I wouldnt travel to IOW