Riots/Looting/Violence and general post-George Floyd madness
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Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...It's a hopeless situation...0
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Trevor Noah summed it up perfectly.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...
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I call it pre-meditated self defense. George Zimmerman was first. But it looks like a growing tactic in white nationalist warfare.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...
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But are they talking about it from a legal standpoint? Or a justification standpoint? Cause legally, he may get off. But from a justification standpoint, you have to believe he in the right to be walking around with an AR-15 during a riot scene....which is stupid.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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But are they talking about it from a legal standpoint? Or a justification standpoint? Cause legally, he may get off. But from a justification standpoint, you have to believe he in the right to be walking around with an AR-15 during a riot scene....which is stupid.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...It is stupid. But what are we supposed to do now, assuming this is growing tactic? I mean, it's dangerous as it could get you killed or tried (and acquitted) and infamous. So I don't think every guy with a blue line sticker on his vehicle is going to be doing it...it's high-risk and low reward for anyone that's not absolutely drooling to put a bullet into someone. We'll see how common this becomes.Because it is gray. From a legal standpoint, it could be seen as self-defense. So how do you criminalize the act of going there simply to make sure you get to defend yourself and shoot someone?1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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I don’t think ya can in most cases, but since he seemed to be breaking serious gun laws simply by having it and crossing state lines, that may factor in. I don’t know for sure if it does though.OnWis97 said:Ledbetterman10 said:
But are they talking about it from a legal standpoint? Or a justification standpoint? Cause legally, he may get off. But from a justification standpoint, you have to believe he in the right to be walking around with an AR-15 during a riot scene....which is stupid.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...It is stupid. But what are we supposed to do now, assuming this is growing tactic? I mean, it's dangerous as it could get you killed or tried (and acquitted) and infamous. So I don't think every guy with a blue line sticker on his vehicle is going to be doing it...it's high-risk and low reward for anyone that's not absolutely drooling to put a bullet into someone. We'll see how common this becomes.Because it is gray. From a legal standpoint, it could be seen as self-defense. So how do you criminalize the act of going there simply to make sure you get to defend yourself and shoot someone?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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That, and whether or not the first one killed could be deemed self defense is what I believe the outcome of the actual legal case will depend on.Ledbetterman10 said:
I don’t think ya can in most cases, but since he seemed to be breaking serious gun laws simply by having it and crossing state lines, that may factor in. I don’t know for sure if it does though.OnWis97 said:Ledbetterman10 said:
But are they talking about it from a legal standpoint? Or a justification standpoint? Cause legally, he may get off. But from a justification standpoint, you have to believe he in the right to be walking around with an AR-15 during a riot scene....which is stupid.tbergs said:Already hearing the self defense argument with reasonable people I work with. Yuck, I don't know anymore. Fucking kid went looking for a fight and found a nice gray situation where wholesome midwesterners will feel his pain because, you know, looters and anarchy because of democrats...It is stupid. But what are we supposed to do now, assuming this is growing tactic? I mean, it's dangerous as it could get you killed or tried (and acquitted) and infamous. So I don't think every guy with a blue line sticker on his vehicle is going to be doing it...it's high-risk and low reward for anyone that's not absolutely drooling to put a bullet into someone. We'll see how common this becomes.Because it is gray. From a legal standpoint, it could be seen as self-defense. So how do you criminalize the act of going there simply to make sure you get to defend yourself and shoot someone?0 -
POTUS is busy planning a trip to the links this weekend I'm sure. All we'll hear is that these are democrat run cities who aren't letting LE do their job. Fuck him, he's garbage and so is anyone making this about whether that piece of shit who shot 3 was justified or within his legal right. I really wish the media would quit giving him press. This human waste will get to be interviewed at some point and be glorified by millions when he should be tried by a jury, convicted and never heard from again. Yep, not going to say if, he should be convicted because he was 17 and never should have had that weapon or been there so he is the cause of their deaths. Nothing they did up to that point justified him shooting them because he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place. This isn't some bullshit stand your ground argument. This is an out of touch white kid playing GI Joe in the streets of America.josevolution said:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1299064684855930884?s=21
Has this president stated anything remotely close to what Kamala is saying?
This incident makes me so angry and I know that people like my parents and the rural MAGAs I live around will blame this on the protesters and democrat mayors and governors. This president has fueled the unrest and division more than any foreign power could ever hope for.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
If you don’t think Putin on the ritz and other malign actors aren’t fueling some of this, you haven’t been paying attention. Team Trump Treason is using Putin on the ritz’s playbook.tbergs said:
POTUS is busy planning a trip to the links this weekend I'm sure. All we'll hear is that these are democrat run cities who aren't letting LE do their job. Fuck him, he's garbage and so is anyone making this about whether that piece of shit who shot 3 was justified or within his legal right. I really wish the media would quit giving him press. This human waste will get to be interviewed at some point and be glorified by millions when he should be tried by a jury, convicted and never heard from again. Yep, not going to say if, he should be convicted because he was 17 and never should have had that weapon or been there so he is the cause of their deaths. Nothing they did up to that point justified him shooting them because he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place. This isn't some bullshit stand your ground argument. This is an out of touch white kid playing GI Joe in the streets of America.josevolution said:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1299064684855930884?s=21
Has this president stated anything remotely close to what Kamala is saying?
This incident makes me so angry and I know that people like my parents and the rural MAGAs I live around will blame this on the protesters and democrat mayors and governors. This president has fueled the unrest and division more than any foreign power could ever hope for.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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We've got to quit giving ass clowns like this attention. This dipshit had 123 followers when I clicked on this garbage post he made. Is it even a real person? Who the hell knows anymore.cutz said:It's a hopeless situation...0 -
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Trump's love of dictators is definitely part of the problem, but this country is eating itself alive with little overt help from anyone else. The events of the last 6 months are all due to poor leadership and guidance, and I don't mean just Trump. Local police are acting like babies because they have to change their approach to policing. These chiefs need to suck it up and lead, not put their arms up and claim there's nothing they can do. Haul in your fucking patrol supervisors and figure out a way. It's what you are being paid to do. It sure as hell isn't easy, but it's on them to work with their team and leadership at the city and state levels.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you don’t think Putin on the ritz and other malign actors aren’t fueling some of this, you haven’t been paying attention. Team Trump Treason is using Putin on the ritz’s playbook.tbergs said:
POTUS is busy planning a trip to the links this weekend I'm sure. All we'll hear is that these are democrat run cities who aren't letting LE do their job. Fuck him, he's garbage and so is anyone making this about whether that piece of shit who shot 3 was justified or within his legal right. I really wish the media would quit giving him press. This human waste will get to be interviewed at some point and be glorified by millions when he should be tried by a jury, convicted and never heard from again. Yep, not going to say if, he should be convicted because he was 17 and never should have had that weapon or been there so he is the cause of their deaths. Nothing they did up to that point justified him shooting them because he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place. This isn't some bullshit stand your ground argument. This is an out of touch white kid playing GI Joe in the streets of America.josevolution said:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1299064684855930884?s=21
Has this president stated anything remotely close to what Kamala is saying?
This incident makes me so angry and I know that people like my parents and the rural MAGAs I live around will blame this on the protesters and democrat mayors and governors. This president has fueled the unrest and division more than any foreign power could ever hope for.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Oh, I agree but putin on the ritz is exploiting events via social media as well. Our chaos benefits him and his minions. Team Trump Treason hasn't commented upon the poisoning of the Russian opposition leader, putin on the ritz's threats toward Belarus or the clash in Syria between US and Russian forces. Why? Come to think of it, I haven't heard anything in the three nights of repub convention anything related to foreign policy, other than opening negotiations with the Taliban.tbergs said:
Trump's love of dictators is definitely part of the problem, but this country is eating itself alive with little overt help from anyone else. The events of the last 6 months are all due to poor leadership and guidance, and I don't mean just Trump. Local police are acting like babies because they have to change their approach to policing. These chiefs need to suck it up and lead, not put their arms up and claim there's nothing they can do. Haul in your fucking patrol supervisors and figure out a way. It's what you are being paid to do. It sure as hell isn't easy, but it's on them to work with their team and leadership at the city and state levels.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you don’t think Putin on the ritz and other malign actors aren’t fueling some of this, you haven’t been paying attention. Team Trump Treason is using Putin on the ritz’s playbook.tbergs said:
POTUS is busy planning a trip to the links this weekend I'm sure. All we'll hear is that these are democrat run cities who aren't letting LE do their job. Fuck him, he's garbage and so is anyone making this about whether that piece of shit who shot 3 was justified or within his legal right. I really wish the media would quit giving him press. This human waste will get to be interviewed at some point and be glorified by millions when he should be tried by a jury, convicted and never heard from again. Yep, not going to say if, he should be convicted because he was 17 and never should have had that weapon or been there so he is the cause of their deaths. Nothing they did up to that point justified him shooting them because he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place. This isn't some bullshit stand your ground argument. This is an out of touch white kid playing GI Joe in the streets of America.josevolution said:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1299064684855930884?s=21
Has this president stated anything remotely close to what Kamala is saying?
This incident makes me so angry and I know that people like my parents and the rural MAGAs I live around will blame this on the protesters and democrat mayors and governors. This president has fueled the unrest and division more than any foreign power could ever hope for.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The shooter drove through a protest, and many people that were actually there claim that the shooter pulled a gun first, which led to garret approaching with his weapon. Additionally there is no clear evidence that he actually pointed the rifle at anyone. The main witness being the shooter who had a gun in the cabin of the car against his employers policy, an hour+ away from Ft Hood. Looks very similar to pre-meditated self defense as some other people have said. So far no court date has been set or verdict delivered...we will see what happens, but it is far from a clear case of self defense. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/31/daniel-perry-austin-protest-garrett-foster/nicknyr15 said:
Garret was killed in self defense. He pointed an AK47 at the wrong person. The kid yesterday murdered two people. It seems pretty clear cut to me.static111 said:
It’s just crazy that some people are saying in the same breath that Garrett having an assault style ar whatever was reason for someone to feel threatened to defend their lives, and then justify that a kid with an ar-15 out looking for vigilante terrorist justice Was justified because self defense. Can’t have it both ways especially when 17 years old Trayvon Martins murder was justified because he looked scary with a hoodie. Sorry white america we are largely fucked up and need to do better yesterday.PJPOWER said:
Yeah, I just read that they are looking for a couple of witnesses and that there were a lot of different accounts from people that they have interviewed so far. Just hadn’t heard much news lately otherwise on the incident.static111 said:
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Was the person that shot Foster in Austin ever charged? That case kind of dropped off the radar.static111 said:You don’t get to threaten People and then claim self defense. I thought we went over this when an armed protester In Austin was shot and killed for being threatening? The person who was adult enough to take two lives gets no sympathy from me.Scio me nihil scire
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Rittenhouse’s mom Wendy — on same night her son killed two people and shot another... <a href="https://t.co/feqJMfnsnq">pic.twitter.com/feqJMfnsnq</a></p>— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) <a href="">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
here is the kid's mom. looks like some brokeass tropic thunder cosplay."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Wow.....my family night looked a little different than this, ha. May I suggest scrabble or monopoly?gimmesometruth27 said:<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Rittenhouse’s mom Wendy — on same night her son killed two people and shot another... <a href="https://t.co/feqJMfnsnq">pic.twitter.com/feqJMfnsnq</a></p>— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) <a href="">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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you should click on the actual tweet then the actual photo and check out the awesome tactical camo pants she is wearing.PJPOWER said:
Wow.....my family night looked a little different than this, ha. May I suggest scrabble or monopoly?gimmesometruth27 said:<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Rittenhouse’s mom Wendy — on same night her son killed two people and shot another... <a href="https://t.co/feqJMfnsnq">pic.twitter.com/feqJMfnsnq</a></p>— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) <a href="">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
here is the kid's mom. looks like some brokeass tropic thunder cosplay."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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