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  • mace1229
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
  • static111
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    That terrorist better be tried as an adult and put away for a long time...maybe even life.  Trayvon was 17 and got killed for wearing a hoodie while walking home.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    static111 said:
    That terrorist better be tried as an adult and put away for a long time...maybe even life.  Trayvon was 17 and got killed for wearing a hoodie while walking home.
    Carrying the ever life threatening bag of Skittles.
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  • mcgruff10
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    edited August 2020
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
     The first video he is being chased and a garbage can is thrown at him.  Allegedly he turns around and shoots the person.  I mean he was being chased but man, you just can’t turn around and kill the person imo.  However maybe a jury will look at it differently?
    the video cutz posted that I commented on it seems like he is being surrounded and attacked by a skateboarder and allegedly a man with a handgun. Crazy times my friend.  
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  • dignin
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    static111 said:
    That terrorist better be tried as an adult and put away for a long time...maybe even life.  Trayvon was 17 and got killed for wearing a hoodie while walking home.
    Carrying the ever life threatening bag of Skittles.
    And Zimmerman still walked, and continues to be a POS to this day.

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  • Poncier
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    static111 said:
    That terrorist better be tried as an adult and put away for a long time...maybe even life.  Trayvon was 17 and got killed for wearing a hoodie while walking home.
    Carrying the ever life threatening bag of Skittles.
    One could get lodged in your throat. Between that and Junior Mints being sewn into folks having surgery its candy-anarchy.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
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  • Glorified KC
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    Much calmer scene tonight in Kenosha as of 9:30pm.  Hopefully it stays peaceful.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
    That first tweet you posted was of him shooting the first guy, right at the beginning of the video. He injured and killed another guy in the second tweet you posted.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
    That first tweet you posted was of him shooting the first guy, right at the beginning of the video. He injured and killed another guy in the second tweet you posted.
    Yeah someone here then sent me the full video of the first shooting in a PM. It’s definitely him. So my guess is both incidents happened in a short span of time. He shot the first guy, began running away, got chased, tripped and fell, then shot the next two guys as they got near. That might not be accurate, but it’s what I’ve pasted together so far. 
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  • dignin
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    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
    That first tweet you posted was of him shooting the first guy, right at the beginning of the video. He injured and killed another guy in the second tweet you posted.
    Yeah someone here then sent me the full video of the first shooting in a PM. It’s definitely him. So my guess is both incidents happened in a short span of time. He shot the first guy, began running away, got chased, tripped and fell, then shot the next two guys as they got near. That might not be accurate, but it’s what I’ve pasted together so far. 
    That's also what I gathered.

    Sad all around. I do have empathy for the 17 year old. He was in way over his head. It's sad that we live in a society where he could get in that situation. He probably felt like he was on top of the world helping out his hero's the police.

    But he took 2 lives and fucked up how many more last night. For that there needs to be justice 
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,235
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
    I think this is the first 


  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,988
    cutz said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
    Is that video different from the one posted about 4 pages ago.
    Its of the first shooting, I couldn’t see exactly what was going on but you hear shots and see a guy fall in the distance. The shooter is the first to check on him. I first thought he was just checking out his handy work but it looks like he was actually the first to call 911 and get help before being told to leave.
    The second shooting a minute later is self defense, but that depends if they had reason to attack him or not. And that depends if the first shooting was justified. 
    Now a 17 year old kid shouldn’t be walking around playing militia in the first place. But I haven’t seen what, if anything, triggered him to shoot that first guy. That to me is the difference between self defense and 2 murder convictions.
    Is there a video of the first shooting? I posted one earlier of the aftermath when the person shot was on the ground with people surrounding him...but is there confirmation that 17-year-old was the shooter in the one? I know he’s charged with murder. But is the charge for the two guys in the street only? Or those two guys and the first guy that was shot?
    I think this is the first 


    Sounds more to me that he says “I just killed somebody.” But maybe I should listen with headphones to hear more clearly.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Three guesses for his name. Bonus points if you can name the “responsible” gun owner.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    White guy walking toward police, alternating between hands up and reaching behind him touching/grabbing his slung long gun, while bystanders scream he just shot someone and he doesn’t even get shot in the ass? A whole down range view of people laying down, crouching and not a shot fired at the white thug? Yea, sure, race doesn’t matter in a shootout. Did they take him for Jack in the Box after they arrested him?
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  • OnWis97
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    Rittenhouse is gonna walk on the murders.  Hopefully the gun crime sticks and keeps him from ever being a cop.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    Rittenhouse is gonna walk on the murders.  Hopefully the gun crime sticks and keeps him from ever being a cop.
    Self defense argument? Narrow purview of local DA? Or all white jury?
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  • White guy walking toward police, alternating between hands up and reaching behind him touching/grabbing his slung long gun, while bystanders scream he just shot someone and he doesn’t even get shot in the ass? A whole down range view of people laying down, crouching and not a shot fired at the white thug? Yea, sure, race doesn’t matter in a shootout. Did they take him for Jack in the Box after they arrested him?
    You've got it mistaken. They didn't shoot him because his back wasn't to them. Nothing to do with race at all. Just ask the supposed LEO troll up there that now poses as a woman on here. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,142
    White guy walking toward police, alternating between hands up and reaching behind him touching/grabbing his slung long gun, while bystanders scream he just shot someone and he doesn’t even get shot in the ass? A whole down range view of people laying down, crouching and not a shot fired at the white thug? Yea, sure, race doesn’t matter in a shootout. Did they take him for Jack in the Box after they arrested him?
    You've got it mistaken. They didn't shoot him because his back wasn't to them. Nothing to do with race at all. Just ask the supposed LEO troll up there that now poses as a woman on here. 
    Musky like a skunk on a bumpy ride?
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