Riots/Looting/Violence and general post-George Floyd madness

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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    JW269453 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Not sure this is the thread to put this in, but I believe this behaviors stems from all of the current chaos:

    Boulder Police: Woman Assaulted 12-Year-Old Boy Over Trump Sign

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/09/02/boulder-assault-trump-yard-sign-boy/

    Fucking unhinged adults
    cue the "so much for the tolerant left" tweets. 
    Not so much against the left, but seriously, what happened to self-control in some of these so called “mature” people these days.  It’s sickening that some “adults” cannot control their actions.
    i agree. it's fucked up. and just so we're clear, I wasn't suggesting you were going to blame an ideology. i see it all the time online. especially from big name trumpists, like james woods and charlie kirk and others. 

    i quit twitter yesterday. and facebook. i've had enough. 4 years of reading everyone hating each other was too much. 
    You will not regret it. Luckily I made the call prior to the last election, things have apparently escalated since then.
    Still third party? Can’t stand a two party system?
    Still unregistered.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,023
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Not sure this is the thread to put this in, but I believe this behaviors stems from all of the current chaos:

    Boulder Police: Woman Assaulted 12-Year-Old Boy Over Trump Sign

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/09/02/boulder-assault-trump-yard-sign-boy/

    Fucking unhinged adults
    cue the "so much for the tolerant left" tweets. 
    Not so much against the left, but seriously, what happened to self-control in some of these so called “mature” people these days.  It’s sickening that some “adults” cannot control their actions.
    i agree. it's fucked up. and just so we're clear, I wasn't suggesting you were going to blame an ideology. i see it all the time online. especially from big name trumpists, like james woods and charlie kirk and others. 

    i quit twitter yesterday. and facebook. i've had enough. 4 years of reading everyone hating each other was too much. 
    You will not regret it. Luckily I made the call prior to the last election, things have apparently escalated since then.
    Still third party? Can’t stand a two party system?
    Still unregistered.

    I very much respect people who stand by their beliefs including if that means they belong to a third party or no party.

    We just (and I mean just!) watch the movie Trumbo, a biopic of the blacklisted screen and book writer, Dalton Trumbo.  Oh man, what a great film, and what a great independent thinker.  I hope everybody hear gets to see that one.  The man stood up for the right's of workers and the rights of free thinking people.  And you don't have to be a communist to be inspired by his work.

    Now, all that said, I'm still asking, hoping, and damn near pleading everyone to vote for Joe Biden.  No, Biden may not make great changes to the world, although he might undo some of the damage.  Four more years of Trump, however, will make "great" changes to the world- "great" as in "remarkable in magnitude, degree", not great as in "wonderful", and not the kind of changes any rational person cares to see happen, let alone think about.   

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    Another crazy gun nut thinking he is providing a security service.  We have a serious gun problem.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2020
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    Another crazy gun nut thinking he is providing a security service.  We have a serious gun problem.
    Claims to be “100% ANTIFA” and even has the black fist tattooed to his neck.  Glad no such group actually exists.../s
    What a winner...
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    Another crazy gun nut thinking he is providing a security service.  We have a serious gun problem.
    Claims to be “100% ANTIFA” and even has the black fist tattooed to his neck.  Glad no such group actually exists.../s
    What a winner...
    Claims to be 100 percent anti facist but doesn’t belong to any organized group.  That is a big difference to what you are alleging
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    From the article “ He described himself as "100 percent anti-fascist," though not a member of any Antifa group.”
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    He also claims that at the protest he felt that the lives of both his friend and himself were in danger.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,439
    edited September 2020
    Why do you feel the need to defend a piece of absolute garbage? Fuck that guy. Good riddance. 
  • static111 said:
    From the article “ He described himself as "100 percent anti-fascist," though not a member of any Antifa group.”
    From his Instagram, he’s described himself as “100% Antifa.” 


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why do you feel the need to defend a piece of absolute garbage? Fuck that guy. Good riddance. 
    I don’t see it as any different than people defending anyone that has ever stood their ground.  Guy shouldn’t have pulled on the police that’s for sure.  Do we know his life wasn’t in danger when he killed the guy at the protest?  Did the guy he killed have a criminal record?  Does antifa exist? So far based on the article there is no proof that antifa does in fact exist.  I’d like to know more about his alleged victim as well.  One thing that would have kept any of the shooting out of the equation in all of these incidents  would be the absence of guns. No guns no random shootings at protests. But we are all cowboys here and have our rights.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    He also claims that at the protest he felt that the lives of both his friend and himself were in danger.
    Just a left wing anarcho-communist looking for a gunfight.  I guess he got what he wanted...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    From the article “ He described himself as "100 percent anti-fascist," though not a member of any Antifa group.”
    From his Instagram, he’s described himself as “100% Antifa.” 


    Good riddance 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why do you feel the need to defend a piece of absolute garbage? Fuck that guy. Good riddance. 
    I don’t see it as any different than people defending anyone that has ever stood their ground.  Guy shouldn’t have pulled on the police that’s for sure.  Do we know his life wasn’t in danger when he killed the guy at the protest?  Did the guy he killed have a criminal record?  Does antifa exist? So far based on the article there is no proof that antifa does in fact exist.  I’d like to know more about his alleged victim as well.  One thing that would have kept any of the shooting out of the equation in all of these incidents  would be the absence of guns. No guns no random shootings at protests. But we are all cowboys here and have our rights.
    Claims to be anti fascist but executed a guy on the street for believing differently than himself=fucking fascist 
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  • Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,439
    Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Yes both killers and assholes. Pretty simple. Yet each side will defend theirs while shitting on the other. Fucking weird 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2020
    Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    We’ll never know.  He should have turned himself in like the 17year old and maybe he would have gotten off on self-defense or at the very least told his side of the story.  If you do not see the difference between this and the 17 year old, then you are a master of denial.  Two different situations with their own merits.
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  • Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Both killers and assholes, but not the same, exact outcome. The 17-year-old will at least stand trial and, who knows, maybe even get off. This other guy, since he claimed self-defense in his Vice News interview, might have been heading towards a similar trial with the same defense, but now he's dead. 
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Yes both killers and assholes. Pretty simple. Yet each side will defend theirs while shitting on the other. Fucking weird 
    Very weird
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  • Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Both killers and assholes, but not the same, exact outcome. The 17-year-old will at least stand trial and, who knows, maybe even get off. This other guy, since he claimed self-defense in his Vice News interview, might have been heading towards a similar trial with the same defense, but now he's dead. 
    I guess by outcome I meant someone's dead.  Heck in each case 2 people are now dead.  I know what you mean though.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    nicknyr15 said:
    Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Yes both killers and assholes. Pretty simple. Yet each side will defend theirs while shitting on the other. Fucking weird 
    I’m just glad he was stopped before he could hurt anyone else.
  • Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Both killers and assholes, but not the same, exact outcome. The 17-year-old will at least stand trial and, who knows, maybe even get off. This other guy, since he claimed self-defense in his Vice News interview, might have been heading towards a similar trial with the same defense, but now he's dead. 
    I guess by outcome I meant someone's dead.  Heck in each case 2 people are now dead.  I know what you mean though.
    Oh I got ya. You were talking from a "going to a riot scene with a gun" perspective, and how that led to there being victims. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    Per his comments he went with a gun to provide protection.  Same as that 17 year old kid.  Different sides, same outcome.  Both killers and assholes.
    Yes both killers and assholes. Pretty simple. Yet each side will defend theirs while shitting on the other. Fucking weird 
    I think this guy and Kyle are both pieces of crap.  I was just posting the sort of justifications I saw for Kyle to point out how ridiculous it was.   Nobody should be bringing weapons to these events.  If the police were doing their jobs they would be paying enough attention to keep the people that are lighting shit on fire from doing so. If we didn’t have an unnatural love of guns these shootings wouldn’t have happened. And of course if police weren’t killing black people at a crazily disproportionate rate to white people we wouldn’t be here at all.   Not that that justifies any killing of any people.  I get it some situations are tense and your life is in danger but most of the situations that have led us here have not been those fear for your life moments.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,366
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    If he was white, he'd still be alive.
    O, wait.....
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    If he was white, he'd still be alive.
    O, wait.....
    Who thinks that cops allow white people to pull guns on them unchecked? 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited September 2020
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    If he was white, he'd still be alive.
    O, wait.....
    Who thinks that cops allow white people to pull guns on them unchecked? 
    Especially a murder suspect who has just admitted to gunning down someone in the street? 

    Have we really divorced ourselves that much from critical thinking? 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    If he was white, he'd still be alive.
    O, wait.....
    Who thinks that cops allow white people to pull guns on them unchecked? 
    Sometimes they do.  See Rittenhouse, Kyle.

    But yeah, pull a gun on a cop and you're usually going to get shot.  This may have even been suicide by cop.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    Yeah unlike the thug kid Kenosha he walked tonight up after killing two no problem ,he got to sleep in his bed no problem! I’m not condoning of anyone killing protesters no matter who they support just pointing out the differences in approach! 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    Well, so much for this dudes trial:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html

    The guy that shot the “Trumper” in Portland tried pulling his gun on police and it didn’t end so well.
    Yeah unlike the thug kid Kenosha he walked tonight up after killing two no problem ,he got to sleep in his bed no problem! I’m not condoning of anyone killing protesters no matter who they support just pointing out the differences in approach! 
    Technically this guy got to sleep in his own bed afterwards for more nights than Kenosha kid.
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