Black Lives Matter
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The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.WRONG! It's about RESPECT! I stand for the flag and each time I do, a single, manly tear rolls down my cheek and anyone who doesn't react the same is being disrespectful. I cannot, and will not, deal with anyone who handles these moments differently than I do. Also many of these people don't like when I use racial slurs and say all lives matter...so they're snowflakes.(Seriously, all this "political correctness" and "snowflake" talk is the original right wing projection...and it's worked really well).1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.WRONG! It's about RESPECT! I stand for the flag and each time I do, a single, manly tear rolls down my cheek and anyone who doesn't react the same is being disrespectful. I cannot, and will not, deal with anyone who handles these moments differently than I do. Also many of these people don't like when I use racial slurs and say all lives matter...so they're snowflakes.(Seriously, all this "political correctness" and "snowflake" talk is the original right wing projection...and it's worked really well).
At every graduation they call out the names of kids and their parents who couldn’t attend because they are currently serving. Then they announce the names of kids and the names of parents lost during their service. To these
kids and their families it meant a lot that we demanded respect when the flag was on the field and when we sang the anthem. It wasn’t even a great school, average at best. But the kids would be silent when the flag was walked out and we sang the anthem every time.0 -
mace1229 said:OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.WRONG! It's about RESPECT! I stand for the flag and each time I do, a single, manly tear rolls down my cheek and anyone who doesn't react the same is being disrespectful. I cannot, and will not, deal with anyone who handles these moments differently than I do. Also many of these people don't like when I use racial slurs and say all lives matter...so they're snowflakes.(Seriously, all this "political correctness" and "snowflake" talk is the original right wing projection...and it's worked really well).
At every graduation they call out the names of kids and their parents who couldn’t attend because they are currently serving. Then they announce the names of kids and the names of parents lost during their service. To these
kids and their families it meant a lot that we demanded respect when the flag was on the field and when we sang the anthem. It wasn’t even a great school, average at best. But the kids would be silent when the flag was walked out and we sang the anthem every time.
Everyone has their own story, that's the point.0 -
Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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brianlux said:Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism.0
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brianlux said:Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism.www.myspace.com0
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brianlux said:Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism.
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The Juggler said:brianlux said:Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism.I would feel much more supportive of them if there was better leadership, specific goals and a well defined list of demands and if they were not being infiltrated by groups like Antifa.But I'll admit I could be wrong. If I see something positive in the way of change coming out of protest, I'll stand up for them. At this point, I really can't do that."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Ledbetterman10 said:brianlux said:Is anybody here besides me getting tired of hearing about these ongoing protests? I get it that when George Floyd was killed people were upset and went out and protested. I supported that. But from what I keep hearing and reading, I think it's time to move on to something more constructive. Even the NAACP (as we saw on the last page here) is saying these protest are “largely a white spectacle — caused by antifa and other left-wing activists — that has co-opted the Black Lives Matter movement."It makes a lot more sense to me to start doing something more constructive. Write letters, donate to the NAACP, become better educated and support better education. VOTE! Enough of the white spectacle. Let's do something useful to end racism.0
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dignin said:mace1229 said:OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.WRONG! It's about RESPECT! I stand for the flag and each time I do, a single, manly tear rolls down my cheek and anyone who doesn't react the same is being disrespectful. I cannot, and will not, deal with anyone who handles these moments differently than I do. Also many of these people don't like when I use racial slurs and say all lives matter...so they're snowflakes.(Seriously, all this "political correctness" and "snowflake" talk is the original right wing projection...and it's worked really well).
At every graduation they call out the names of kids and their parents who couldn’t attend because they are currently serving. Then they announce the names of kids and the names of parents lost during their service. To these
kids and their families it meant a lot that we demanded respect when the flag was on the field and when we sang the anthem. It wasn’t even a great school, average at best. But the kids would be silent when the flag was walked out and we sang the anthem every time.
Everyone has their own story, that's the point.0 -
mace1229 said:OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/
Not so sure I like where this is going.
Thoughts?good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well. honor them all or none.
We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.
So back to this.
If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?
Kneeling I'm all for it. Walking off? Not so much.
People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh.
What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song. Little known fact about this. The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.
There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.
Also, it's just a fucking song.WRONG! It's about RESPECT! I stand for the flag and each time I do, a single, manly tear rolls down my cheek and anyone who doesn't react the same is being disrespectful. I cannot, and will not, deal with anyone who handles these moments differently than I do. Also many of these people don't like when I use racial slurs and say all lives matter...so they're snowflakes.(Seriously, all this "political correctness" and "snowflake" talk is the original right wing projection...and it's worked really well).
At every graduation they call out the names of kids and their parents who couldn’t attend because they are currently serving. Then they announce the names of kids and the names of parents lost during their service. To these
kids and their families it meant a lot that we demanded respect when the flag was on the field and when we sang the anthem. It wasn’t even a great school, average at best. But the kids would be silent when the flag was walked out and we sang the anthem every time.The national anthem is not a military song. It represents teachers, dock workers, immigrants, liberals, conservatives, bus drivers, lawyers, and any other people you can think of that are less worthy of respect than members of the military. Do we play it at every sporting event for "the military?" I don't think so...but it morphed into that after Kaepernick's kneeling and the NFL's marriage to the military. But our adherence to the flag and to "patriotic" customs runs the risk of shutting down dissenting thought (you know, the thing only liberals do). Actually, it doesn't run that risk...it flat out does it. From "CAPS OFF!" guy to cops booting a guy from Yankee Stadium.As for the military, there needs to be a balance between appreciation/honor and worship/jingoism. I'm not a big fan of most things war and military but I understand that members sacrifice, at the very least a lot of time (that I spent drinking in college) and, their very safety/life depending on various circumstances. It's a tough balance, but it seems like any time there's a thought to "honor" if it's not done then "you hate America." So at a ballgame, you have a veteran raise the flag during the national anthem.* You have a flyover. You have God Bless America in the 7th Inning stretch. Sometimes it feels like we cling to our greatness almost out of insecurity. America is number 1 and I don't want to hear even a hint of disagreement (Stick fingers in ears and say "la la la"). It leads to complacency and to not wanting to actually make things better. Do they do this in other countries? I honestly don't know. It feels like a uniquely American thing, but maybe people in Finland always talk about how Finland is the Greatest Country in the World and anyone that doesn't agree it can just move to Belgium or something.And now some rich, unelected pandemic-profiteer virtue-signals what she thinks players in a mostly black league should do because standing at attention during a song is more important than being able to go outside without fear of the cops in the Greatest Country in the World? I'm with the players.*The Twins do that and while I tire of the anthem before every game, I think this is a very nice touch.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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I guess proper grammar is viewed as being racist now?0
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bbiggs said:I guess proper grammar is viewed as being racist now?0
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nicknyr15 said:bbiggs said:I guess proper grammar is viewed as being racist now?
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