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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    I feel myself wanting to go into peace-maker mode.  :lol:

    Be cool, friends, and have a good weekend.  :smile:
    Haha. Thanks. We’re good. We butt heads but I’ve learned when we’re at a dead end to just respectfully disagree and move on.

    That's cool.  Cheers, you guys.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:


    Haha!  Gotta be The Onion!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:


    Haha!  Gotta be The Onion!
    Or the god awful truth.
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  • nicknyr15
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    https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/portland-naacp-chief-calls-protests-largely-white-spectacle/
  • brianlux
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    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/portland-naacp-chief-calls-protests-largely-white-spectacle/

    I was wondering about this very thing. 

    We watched this great movie about Thurgood Marshall last night called Marshall.   Great film!
    Marshall 2017 - IMDb

    The film really offers a great perspective on the hard work of the NAACP and Marshall's brilliance as a trial lawyer working for justice for black citizens wrongly charged due to color. 

    I was not opposed to the early protests after the killing of George Floyd, but I'd really like to see something more constructive start happening.  I don't see anything constructive coming out of the protest anymore.  And I have to wonder, how many of these white (or even black!) protesters know their black history?  Are they familiar with Ida B. Wells, Thurgood Marshall, Marcus Garvey, etc?  Do they know that the first open heart surgery was performed by a black man?  Do they know that it was a black man named Du Sable who founded Chicago?  That a black man named Charles Drew came up with the process of storing blood plasma in blood banks?  Are they familiar with the rich history of black musicians in blues and jazz or do they only know about Jay-Z and Kanye and the like?  Sure, many of us didn't or don't know a lot about black history unless we learned it ourselves, because not all schools teach it.  So let's start educating ourselves and demand better education for all, especially they less privileged among us.

    And then instead of continuing to go out and piss off the goddamn rednecks who aren't going to change now matter how many times you scream at them anyway, lets get smart and set goals and have specific demands. 

    And most of all, lets learn how to get along and be helpful.  I don't see much of any of this happening.

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,239
    https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/police-declare-riot-at-seattle-protests-more-than-two-dozen-arrested/
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?

    To tell you the truth, I've never understood why the National Anthem is played before a sporting event.  Maybe someone can explain that to me.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to play a song related to the game itself?  Like, for instance:

    Baseball:  "Take Me Out to the Ballgame".
    Basketball:  "Basketball Jones"
    Football:  "Masters of War"
    Soccer:  ¡Viva el fútbol!
    Tennis:  "Wake Me Up When It's Over"


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  • mickeyrat
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
    good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.

    Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well.  honor them all or none.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
    good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.

    Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well.  honor them all or none.
    Yeah, that's not going to happen in honoring all the countries.  No other country in the world does that.

    We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.

    So back to this.

    If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?

    Kneeling I'm all for it.  Walking off?  Not so much.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    This may be happening in the WNBA because of Loeffler’s attempts to halt support for BLM, not just on her team but for the whole league. She claims she’s standing up for Conservatives’ right to free speech. That’s probably made this a more divisive issue than it otherwise would be. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    oftenreading said:
    This may be happening in the WNBA because of Loeffler’s attempts to halt support for BLM, not just on her team but for the whole league. She claims she’s standing up for Conservatives’ right to free speech. That’s probably made this a more divisive issue than it otherwise would be. 
    Loeffler commented about the walk off after it happened.  Did she say something beforehand?  Either way I am not pleased with what the teams did.
  • cutz
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?

  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    This may be happening in the WNBA because of Loeffler’s attempts to halt support for BLM, not just on her team but for the whole league. She claims she’s standing up for Conservatives’ right to free speech. That’s probably made this a more divisive issue than it otherwise would be. 
    Loeffler commented about the walk off after it happened.  Did she say something beforehand?  Either way I am not pleased with what the teams did.

    She said something before

    The GOP would be smart to bring this up all day every day. All they have is the culture war. And I think they can win it. 

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  • mace1229
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    edited July 2020
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?

    To tell you the truth, I've never understood why the National Anthem is played before a sporting event.  Maybe someone can explain that to me.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to play a song related to the game itself?  Like, for instance:

    Baseball:  "Take Me Out to the Ballgame".
    Basketball:  "Basketball Jones"
    Football:  "Masters of War"
    Soccer:  ¡Viva el fútbol!
    Tennis:  "Wake Me Up When It's Over"


    In professional sports I believe they play the anthem of the country represented. So when the Blue Jays play they sing both national anthems.  I don’t think it’s odd since in theory it’s an “international “ league. And the popularity of playing it grew in response to WWI and II and the tradition stuck.

    What’s odd to me is we throw in 1 Canadian team and call it a World Series or world champions.
  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
    good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.

    Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well.  honor them all or none.
    Yeah, that's not going to happen in honoring all the countries.  No other country in the world does that.

    We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.

    So back to this.

    If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?

    Kneeling I'm all for it.  Walking off?  Not so much.
    They might do this if they were in the Olympics


    People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh. 

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  • The Juggler
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    OnWis97 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    This may be happening in the WNBA because of Loeffler’s attempts to halt support for BLM, not just on her team but for the whole league. She claims she’s standing up for Conservatives’ right to free speech. That’s probably made this a more divisive issue than it otherwise would be. 
    Loeffler commented about the walk off after it happened.  Did she say something beforehand?  Either way I am not pleased with what the teams did.

    She said something before

    The GOP would be smart to bring this up all day every day. All they have is the culture war. And I think they can win it. 

    Then why has Biden's lead remained so stable in spite of all the culture war stuff Trump has been spouting for the last two months?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
    good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.

    Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well.  honor them all or none.
    Yeah, that's not going to happen in honoring all the countries.  No other country in the world does that.

    We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.

    So back to this.

    If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?

    Kneeling I'm all for it.  Walking off?  Not so much.
    They might do this if they were in the Olympics


    People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh. 

    This is actually my favorite protest ever and I want to have this as a poster on my wall.

    What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song.  Little known fact about this.  The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.

    There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I've never watched a WNBA game yet and I now have a reason to continue that.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-liberty-players-walk-off-court-during-national-anthem-in-wnba-season-opener/

    Not so sure I like where this is going.

    Thoughts?
    good. stop playing it altogether or leave players off the field/court until its done.

    Baseball has players from other countries. hockey too. nba as well.  honor them all or none.
    Yeah, that's not going to happen in honoring all the countries.  No other country in the world does that.

    We do play the Canadian anthem when a northern team is in town.

    So back to this.

    If any of them were in the olympics would they walk off the podium while the anthem was playing?

    Kneeling I'm all for it.  Walking off?  Not so much.
    They might do this if they were in the Olympics


    People are still upset over how other people peacefully protest a one minute song? Ugh. 

    This is actually my favorite protest ever and I want to have this as a poster on my wall.

    What's great about this and the kneeling is they actually respected the song.  Little known fact about this.  The two gentlemen didn't have another glove to give Norman the Aussie but they did have an Olympic project for human rights badge, which all 3 wore.

    There should be some restraint on how far you protest the anthem.  
    So if folks want to protest the anthem in the future, they should just check with you about what is acceptable or not. Got it!
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