George Floyd Protests

tempo_n_groove

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Does this book include the "Projects" that were housing in the bigger cities?  The creation of Long Island?

It focuses on how policies and laws didn't allow African Americans to live in certain areas and forced the segregation, even when it didn't initially exist. I don't recall it referencing projects, more about how housing, loans and government assistance excluded African Americans. It did not go over the creation of Long Island from what I remember. 

OK, TY.  I have been wanting to find a book on that.

This sounds like never getting a seat to the table.

cblock4life

CM189191 said:

cblock4life said:

CM189191 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

I agree, we really need to look into the police officer's family history.  

Instead of just coming back with a shitty remark why not take the time to explain how a child’s life is not affected by their upbringing?  I’ve posted it before, after speaking with many black individuals, they’re aware that it’s not just society that’s to blame.  That’s why BLM emphasizes community and family involvement to assist with the solutions. 

"before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family"
what a shitty remark might look like

see also: victim blaming

You’re right...my apologies. And to your point, an officer can be and most likely is affected by their upbringing as well.  My point is BLM don’t just blame police, they look at the big picture, which includes all the concerns we discuss. 

static111

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Yes and is still being done today via other means.  Until we solve this we are going to continue with all the bullshit that it causes.  I’ll have to look into that book.

mickeyrat

thread topic ....

George Floyd Death of George Floyd Minneapolis Minnesota Trials

Ruling paves way for longer sentence in George Floyd's death

By AMY FORLITI

50 mins ago

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Minnesota judge has ruled that there were aggravating factors in the death of George Floyd, paving the way for a longer sentence for Derek Chauvin, according to an order made public Wednesday.

In his ruling, Judge Peter Cahill found that Chauvin abused his authority as a police officer when he restrained Floyd last year, and that he treated Floyd with particular cruelty.

Still even with the aggravating factors, legal experts have said, Chauvin is unlikely to get more than 30 years when he is sentenced June 25.

Chauvin, who is white, was convicted in April of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter for pressing his knee against Floyd’s neck for 9 1/2 minutes as the Black man said he couldn’t breathe and went motionless.

Even though he was found guilty of three counts, under Minnesota statutes he’ll only be sentenced on the most serious one — second-degree murder. Under Minnesota sentencing guidelines, he would have faced a presumptive sentence of 12 1/2 years on that count, and Cahill could have sentenced him to as little as 10 years and eight months or as much as 15 years and still stayed within the guideline range.

But prosecutors asked for what is known as an upward departure — arguing that Floyd was particularly vulnerable with his hands cuffed behind his back as he was face-down on the ground. They noted that Chauvin held his position even after Floyd became unresponsive and officers knew he had no pulse.

Prosecutors also said Chauvin treated Floyd with particular cruelty during the lengthy restraint, saying Chauvin inflicted gratuitous pain and caused psychological distress to Floyd and to bystanders. They also said Chauvin abused his position of authority as a police officer, committed his crime as part of a group of three or more people, and that he pinned Floyd down in the presence of children — including a 9-year-old girl who testified at trial that watching the restraint made her “sad and kind of mad.”

Cahill agreed with all but one of the prosecutors' arguments. He said prosecutors did not prove that Floyd was particularly vulnerable.

Defense attorney Eric Nelson disagreed with the state, saying that prosecutors did not prove that there were aggravating factors. He said Chauvin had legal authority to assist in Floyd's arrest and was authorized under law to use reasonable force. He also said Floyd was not particularly vulnerable, saying he was a large man who was struggling with officers.

Nelson also argued Floyd was not treated with particular cruelty, saying that there is no evidence that the assault perpetrated by Chauvin involved gratuitous pain that’s not usually associated with second-degree murder.

No matter what sentence Chauvin gets, in Minnesota it’s presumed that a defendant with good behavior will serve two-thirds of the penalty in prison and the rest on supervised release, commonly known as parole.

Chauvin has also been indicted on federal charges alleging he violated Floyd's civil rights, as well as the civil rights of a 14-year-old he restrained in a 2017 arrest. If convicted on those charges, which were unsealed Friday, a federal sentence would be served at the same time as Chauvin's state sentence. The three other former officers involved in Floyd's death were also charged with federal civil rights violations; they await trial in state court on aiding and abetting counts.

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Find AP’s full coverage of the death of George Floyd at: https://apnews.com/hub/death-of-george-floyd

dankind

static111 said:

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Yes and is still being done today via other means.  Until we solve this we are going to continue with all the bullshit that it causes.  I’ll have to look into that book.

Yup.

My town's school district is supposedly better than the school district next town over. A year or so ago, a black student who is a child of divorce filled out her father's address on a form. Her father lives in the next town over, and her mother moved here for the "better" school district. Still, the student was booted out of the district's schools and now attends school where she feels welcome and accepted in the district where her father lives.

Our superintendent is a white supremacist who blames hip hop (i.e., Black folks) for white kids saying the N-word and scrawling the N-word on public/school property; of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with their old Massachusetts sundown town upbringing.

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

static111 said:

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Yes and is still being done today via other means.  Until we solve this we are going to continue with all the bullshit that it causes.  I’ll have to look into that book.

Yup.

My town's school district is supposedly better than the school district next town over. A year or so ago, a black student who is a child of divorce filled out her father's address on a form. Her father lives in the next town over, and her mother moved here for the "better" school district. Still, the student was booted out of the district's schools and now attends school where she feels welcome and accepted in the district where her father lives.

Our superintendent is a white supremacist who blames hip hop (i.e., Black folks) for white kids saying the N-word and scrawling the N-word on public/school property; of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with their old Massachusetts sundown town upbringing.

That would happen all the time at my school.  Kid uses their other relatives address to go to another school.

dankind

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

static111 said:

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Yes and is still being done today via other means.  Until we solve this we are going to continue with all the bullshit that it causes.  I’ll have to look into that book.

Yup.

My town's school district is supposedly better than the school district next town over. A year or so ago, a black student who is a child of divorce filled out her father's address on a form. Her father lives in the next town over, and her mother moved here for the "better" school district. Still, the student was booted out of the district's schools and now attends school where she feels welcome and accepted in the district where her father lives.

Our superintendent is a white supremacist who blames hip hop (i.e., Black folks) for white kids saying the N-word and scrawling the N-word on public/school property; of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with their old Massachusetts sundown town upbringing.

That would happen all the time at my school.  Kid uses their other relatives address to go to another school.

This girl lives with both relatives. She just so happened to be staying with her dad (his custody turn) when she got the form, so she filled it out accordingly.

Her mom wanted to argue to keep her in the district because of its "betterness" (read: more whiteness), but the girl (a preteen) felt unwelcome after the incident and enrolled in a school the next town over where she felt more accepted as a fellow human being.

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

static111 said:

tbergs said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

more the story.

system failures left and right..

https://news.yahoo.com/makhia-bryants-journey-foster-care-150429468.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The voice on the 911 call is a teenage girl’s, and it is quavering, as if she has been crying. “I want to leave this foster home,” she tells t...

I hope everyone that jumped all over themselves to justify the cop killing a kid reads this.  Turns out girl in pink and several other adults were all going after two kids that already had a tough life. Society fails family, society places girl in system, system fails girl, system kills girl, system blames girl...what a shithole country.

Before I say this let me remind you that I’m on your side, however, when placing blame you seem to miss the first step before society fails family, and it’s that family failed family. No one should be left blameless in these situations. 

Sure let’s look into the history of the US and see what led to many of the problems of marginalized communities, I bet it’s a history of racism bad policies and laws, red lining, underinvestment etc. Lets not forget what leads to many people having a tough life, lack of opportunity and a failure of society.

It sure is. I recently was reading this book:

Despicable what was done.

Yes and is still being done today via other means.  Until we solve this we are going to continue with all the bullshit that it causes.  I’ll have to look into that book.

Yup.

My town's school district is supposedly better than the school district next town over. A year or so ago, a black student who is a child of divorce filled out her father's address on a form. Her father lives in the next town over, and her mother moved here for the "better" school district. Still, the student was booted out of the district's schools and now attends school where she feels welcome and accepted in the district where her father lives.

Our superintendent is a white supremacist who blames hip hop (i.e., Black folks) for white kids saying the N-word and scrawling the N-word on public/school property; of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with their old Massachusetts sundown town upbringing.

That would happen all the time at my school.  Kid uses their other relatives address to go to another school.

This girl lives with both relatives. She just so happened to be staying with her dad (his custody turn) when she got the form, so she filled it out accordingly.

Her mom wanted to argue to keep her in the district because of its "betterness" (read: more whiteness), but the girl (a preteen) felt unwelcome after the incident and enrolled in a school the next town over where she felt more accepted as a fellow human being.

That happened here too.  Most of my school never saw a minority so they weren't used to that.  Having gone to school in Queens I didn't understand the fuss.

tempo_n_groove

Three cops trial moved out a year to March 2022.  George Floyd case.

Wow.  A year.

jerparker20

tempo_n_groove said:

Three cops trial moved out a year to March 2022.  George Floyd case.

Wow.  A year.

That’s just for the charges brought by the state. The federal case against all three (and the one already convicted) will now take precedence. Those charges carry more severe penalties.

tempo_n_groove

jerparker20 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Three cops trial moved out a year to March 2022.  George Floyd case.

Wow.  A year.

That’s just for the charges brought by the state. The federal case against all three (and the one already convicted) will now take precedence. Those charges carry more severe penalties.

Hence why they moved it.  That makes much more sense.

Halifax2TheMax

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest : 14June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest : 30June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

really? wow. 

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

According to this by 2045 the sperm count for everyone will be zero anyways so who gives a shit...

lindamarie73

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

mickeyrat

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

think their numbers are off a little....

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/status/1343950694672379905?s=19

Halifax2TheMax

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

A simple graphic for simple................

https://newrepublic.com/article/162539/defund-the-police-crime-statistics

No mention of the ridiculous number of guns sold either. Gee, “responsible” gun owners couldn’t possibly have anything to do with rising homicide rates, now could they?

Boo!

HughFreakingDillon

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

"hey, my governor/mayor/senator is a democrat; I'm gonna go out and do some murder!". 

makes perfect sense. 

brianlux

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

Shit hole cities?

Portland:  Home of Oregon Health and Sciences Hospital made my life possible again.  NOT A SHIT HOLE. 

Oakland:  Home of the A's, beautiful Lake Merritt and Jack London Square.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

Los Angels:  Home of Tommy Stinson.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.  Home of the Dodgers... well, OK, but what can I say?  I'm a Giants fan.

Chicago:  I don't know.  Maybe a shit hole? 

Austin:  Come on!  Austin City Limits.  NOT A SHIT HOLE

Minneapolis:  Home of Paul Westerberg, the Replacements, Prince, Soul Asylum.  Call that a shit hole?  No way.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

New York:  The greatest city in the world.  Gotta be nuts to call that a shit hole.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

Philadelphia:  Home of brotherly love.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

cblock4life

brianlux said:

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 14

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest

 : 30

June 2021 • Source: Echelon Insights (Alexandria, Va.)

Index | Harper's Magazine (harpers.org)

That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....

Shit hole cities?

Portland:  Home of Oregon Health and Sciences Hospital made my life possible again.  NOT A SHIT HOLE. 

Oakland:  Home of the A's, beautiful Lake Merritt and Jack London Square.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

Los Angels:  Home of Tommy Stinson.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.  Home of the Dodgers... well, OK, but what can I say?  I'm a Giants fan.

Chicago:  I don't know.  Maybe a shit hole? 

Austin:  Come on!  Austin City Limits.  NOT A SHIT HOLE

Minneapolis:  Home of Paul Westerberg, the Replacements, Prince, Soul Asylum.  Call that a shit hole?  No way.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

New York:  The greatest city in the world.  Gotta be nuts to call that a shit hole.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

Philadelphia:  Home of brotherly love.  NOT A SHIT HOLE.

I’m with you on this one except none of these are shit holes (her/his words straight out of the trump dictionary). Where did that map come from anyway? Not in the article posted - at least that I saw (numbers where posted)...oh yes that’s where it came from, thats the same map trump used to enlarge the hurricane area.
How you trump lovers live with yourselves, look in the mirror (especially if you’re a woman or have a daughter) and believe all the bull is just so bewildering.  It’s like you’ve all crawled out from your creepy shit hole houses after decades and decades just waiting for your leader to emerge.  I mean come on, you trump supporters don’t really believe in him and what he stands for, right?  You’re all just fucking around with us.