This is why the pro gun crowd is perceived the way they are. You really don't believe, in the history of gun buying in 'Murica, that someone, you never knew or met, ever purchased a gun for the sole intent and purpose of killing someone? Really? How devoid of reality is that?
How did you come to this conclusion from what has been posted? I’m fairly certain you could not find a single person who would claim this, and from observing the back and forth, this is not what tempo is claiming either. It sounded more like you were claiming all guns are purchased with the intent to kill someone.
Here's what I'm specifically responding to:
Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people.
I never said "all." Tempo makes it sound like its never happened. Like, "why would you think guns are purchased for killing people? Thats crazy, people who buy guns hope they never use them to kill someone." I beg to differ, if that is what Tempo meant by the bolded above.
I wonder how many first degree murder charges involve a firearm?
This is why the pro gun crowd is perceived the way they are. You really don't believe, in the history of gun buying in 'Murica, that someone, you never knew or met, ever purchased a gun for the sole intent and purpose of killing someone? Really? How devoid of reality is that?
You’re the one that posited that ALL guns are purchased for the express purpose of killing people, which any thinking person will recognize as nonsense.
This is why the pro gun crowd is perceived the way they are. You really don't believe, in the history of gun buying in 'Murica, that someone, you never knew or met, ever purchased a gun for the sole intent and purpose of killing someone? Really? How devoid of reality is that?
How did you come to this conclusion from what has been posted? I’m fairly certain you could not find a single person who would claim this, and from observing the back and forth, this is not what tempo is claiming either. It sounded more like you were claiming all guns are purchased with the intent to kill someone.
Here's what I'm specifically responding to:
Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people.
I never said "all." Tempo makes it sound like its never happened. Like, "why would you think guns are purchased for killing people? Thats crazy, people who buy guns hope they never use them to kill someone." I beg to differ, if that is what Tempo meant by the bolded above.
I wonder how many first degree murder charges involve a firearm?
I did not gather from what tempo posted he was inferring that. Looks like a classic misunderstanding, on multiple accounts.
This is why the pro gun crowd is perceived the way they are. You really don't believe, in the history of gun buying in 'Murica, that someone, you never knew or met, ever purchased a gun for the sole intent and purpose of killing someone? Really? How devoid of reality is that?
You’re the one that posited that ALL guns are purchased for the express purpose of killing people, which any thinking person will recognize as nonsense.
Goose and gander, is my point.
I never said, "all."
You're right, but your statement didn't really leave any room for anything else. And I do allow that on very rare occasions a firearm might be purchased with the intent for murder. I suppose we're in extreme disagreement on the frequency.
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Jeezus man. You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?
You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.
Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
Because that’s what “responsible” gun owners do with their guns, scare and intimidate people. Seems reasonable. And why not?
If you really believe that people don’t buy guns for the intention of killing people then I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
Yea, because buying a starters pistol is the same as buying a fully functional firearm. What planet you on bro?
I would imagine you've never done skeet or sporting clays then? Edit: Bro...
Isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun possession, even if purchased for skeet or clay shooting, bro, is to never brandish it unless you’re prepared to take a life? How many recreational skeet shooters walk around with their firearm slung over their shoulder in public just because it’s open carry? How many skeet shooters use an AR15 to shoot skeet?
To believe that “people” don’t buy guns for the purpose of “killing” people is a disconnect from reality. What planet, bro?
Bro. You asked what guns do people buy that aren't meant to shoot people. I gave you 3 examples. A starter pistol, Sporting clay guns and Skeet guns.
Planet earth... Bro.
To be fair, I think thats only 2. wouldn't you use the same guns for trap and skeet? I used to do trap a lot, but never skeet, but I always thought you'd use the same gun. But in more seriousness, if you 2 are debating the purpose of purchasing a gun, very few are purchased with the intent to kill. You could argue that the majority of guns are designed with the purpose of killing, but I've never known one single person who bought a gun and said they wanted to kill someone with it. And that includes several law enforcement who carry. They buy guns because its easier to carry, for target practice or other sport. But rarely with the intent to use it on a person.
The only reason I ever bought a gun was to kill animals and eat them. I'm way past that now...unless circumstances degrade drastically and I need to hunt to eat again.
The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
Or if people didn't come to burn down buildings, none of this would have happened either.
if a cop hadnt kneeled on someones neck for 9 plus minutes killing a man by suffocation or another shooting someone in the back multiple times, I'd wager none of that would have followed.
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If George Floyd just gave back whatever he bought with the counterfeit $20 when the clerk asked him to……
Was there indeed proven use of counterfeit currency? If so that still doesn't justify what happened. If police weren't worshipped and protected and had to live up to the same standards as most of us for getting disciplined on the job, this would have never happened...fun
The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
Or if people didn't come to burn down buildings, none of this would have happened either.
if a cop hadnt kneeled on someones neck for 9 plus minutes killing a man by suffocation or another shooting someone in the back multiple times, I'd wager none of that would have followed.
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If George Floyd just gave back whatever he bought with the counterfeit $20 when the clerk asked him to……
Was there indeed proven use of counterfeit currency? If so that still doesn't justify what happened. If police weren't worshipped and protected and had to live up to the same standards as most of us for getting disciplined on the job, this would have never happened...fun
I wish there was some kind of process society could use to determine whether he knowingly used a counterfeit bill. But alas, we’re left with nothing but assuming so and having cops kill him.
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Finally watched some of the trial that was accidentally recorded during one of my shows. Was about 40 minutes of the cross, and the prosecutor seemed like an idiot to me. His questions were dumb and lacked any form of sense. Saw some clips of the judge scolding him for questions his silence after his arrest.
“If they think they are going back to the old ways of policing then we’re going to take to the streets again,” New York BLM co-founder Hawk Newsome said outside Borough Hall. “There will be riots. There will be fire, and there will be bloodshed.”
This is in response to incoming Mayor Eric Adams vowing to bring back the Anti Crime Unit.
Jeezus man. You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?
You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
Yes. I think he wanted to shoot people.
I know this. Because he shot people.
If he didn't want to shoot people. Then he wouldn't have.
It's that simple.
When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...
You hope to never have to use it.
What was the cc for then?
In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?
When I went hiking I carried. I should have been more specific. It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person. I never carried in groups of people.
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
Guy in Florida that Shot Treyvon comes to mind.
Makes you wonder would Rittenhouse have been so brazen if others before him hadn't been let off?
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same. I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder.
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his mother needs charged. she drove her minor son across state lines transporting a loaded weapon he was not legally allowed to have.
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You wrote this? How’d you find time between skiing, boating, playing golf in the majors, sailing, etc. etc. or may we have your source? Also, did you teach Rittenhouse how to cry like that? He needs a new acting coach.
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
Won’t he be charged with something though? Illegally possessing the weapon and crossing state lines? I can’t watch it after his fake crying and I know nothing about all the guns rules.
You wrote this? How’d you find time between skiing, boating, playing golf in the majors, sailing, etc. etc. or may we have your source? Also, did you teach Rittenhouse how to cry like that? He needs a new acting coach.
Wow. The ignorance. So weird. Not enough snow yet to ski. Don't golf in the majors. Have not sailed since 2000. Got any other questions?
Also fuck LeBron. Maybe he should of been on that helicopter and not Kobe. Laura was right. Stick to dribbling the ball.
And stupid Joe came out and called him a white supremacist. What an idiot. Sue him too Kyle. Talk to Nick and get paid.
And people buy into crap like this... Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.
C'mon.
My thoughts too. I honestly don't understand why he's getting so much crap for crying. I'd be crying too testifying why I had to kill 2 people and facing serious prison time. Did anyone double check and make sure the jury wasn't to his right?
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same. I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder.
Ok go into a crowd stir up shit and run away, turn around because you are "in fear for your life" etc. If this doesn't create a precedent for that type of vigilantism i will be surprised.
And people buy into crap like this... Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.
C'mon.
Yeah, he’s very remorseful.
People flash the white power sign du jour regularly when they are remorseful over their actions during protests supporting the the movement for Black lives.
And people buy into crap like this... Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.
C'mon.
Yeah, he’s very remorseful.
People flash the white power sign du jour regularly when they are remorseful over their actions during protests supporting the the movement for Black lives.
Wearing a T shirt that says "Free As Fuck"
Do they make a shirt that says "remorseful as fuck"?
I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t feel a thing for him or the victims. It’s amazing how even this, is a political battle of left vs right. What a shame.
If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent. I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.
I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same. I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder.
Ok go into a crowd stir up shit and run away, turn around because you are "in fear for your life" etc. If this doesn't create a precedent for that type of vigilantism i will be surprised.
Which is why the charge of "reckless endangerment" is important. He may be able to argue that he was defending himself but he intentionally inserted himself into a situation where he shouldn't have.
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Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people.
I never said "all." Tempo makes it sound like its never happened. Like, "why would you think guns are purchased for killing people? Thats crazy, people who buy guns hope they never use them to kill someone." I beg to differ, if that is what Tempo meant by the bolded above.
I wonder how many first degree murder charges involve a firearm?
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This is in response to incoming Mayor Eric Adams vowing to bring back the Anti Crime Unit.
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I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder.
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The charges:
These are the charges he faces. I can see him getting the reckless endangerment and the misdemeanor.
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C'mon.
Also fuck LeBron. Maybe he should of been on that helicopter and not Kobe. Laura was right. Stick to dribbling the ball.
And stupid Joe came out and called him a white supremacist. What an idiot. Sue him too Kyle. Talk to Nick and get paid.
Did anyone double check and make sure the jury wasn't to his right?
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Do they make a shirt that says "remorseful as fuck"?
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